Teasdale now back?
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Of course he is. Was there ever any doubt?
Like I said in this thread a lot can be said about how Brands handles JRent and how Cael handles Gavin right now. One is doing it for the kid to put himself in a position to be successful and the other is doing it for his teams success. And that's assuming we are comparing apples to apples as both have academic issues right. Well what if Gavin's is drug addiction or Health?
Oh well JRent will get his grades in order and be on the team down the road. Gavin will be used up and spit out.
Cael Sanderson is the Steve Alford of College Wrestling.
Like I said in this thread a lot can be said about how Brands handles JRent and how Cael handles Gavin right now. One is doing it for the kid to put himself in a position to be successful and the other is doing it for his teams success. And that's assuming we are comparing apples to apples as both have academic issues right. Well what if Gavin's is drug addiction or Health?
Oh well JRent will get his grades in order and be on the team down the road. Gavin will be used up and spit out.
Cael Sanderson is the Steve Alford of College Wrestling.
Cael needs Teasdale on this squad, this year — why?
Why does Cael need Teasdale to man 125 to be successful this year in March?
That's a lot of prediction presented as fact when the event hasn't even happened, yet.
Doesn’t, but the points record could be in Danger now, the dynasty just Got Stronger
Needs new ways to challenge self, a little angry puppet like Brands isn’t doing it
Exactly...he doesn't. The only reason he could possible even need Gavin to do anything other than just be in the practice room for structure until he gets grades and personal things in order is because putting Gavin in the starting lineup if he could indeed AA (which I think he could as 125 is weak and look at Glory for example) is Cael sees he may be the missing points to have a shot at the team scoring record and who knows if he will have a team with this many possible champions on it again so he is going for it.
Again Cael is about Cael and how his legacy will look. He wont let a kid like Gavin get in the way of trying to overtake Dan Gables coaching legacy. Heck kids come and go to him and he knows he can plug a Robbie Howard to plug and play when Teasdale crashes.
Cael loves his ego more than anything.
If he wrestles, that would mean your understanding was wrong.
This is one area that isn't thought about with our coaches. They put the student first, and try to mold them into successful men. Iowa doesn't let the coaches operate in any gray area. PSU and OSU live in the shade. Cael will do anything to get a chunk out of Gavin not caring for his best interest. That what he does.
That is some serious wisdom. You should write fortune cookies or something.
Don't think for one second Cael doesn't have someone in the athletic department who researches ways around thing and runs them by legal.
And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I wish Brands did. I mean he did have Fred Mims at one point as a real friend of the program but I just don't see anything about TNT that are proactive.
As long as you have the kids best interest in mind I have no issue playing in the NCAA gray matter. But Caels interest is in one guy.
This position is going to look awfully foolish if Teasdale wrestles unattached tomorrow.
PSU does not need teasdale but I could see them using him while they can with the thought he might not hack it and be around long term.
Nah, it just proves that some on here have notions and misunderstandings about the rules, pretending like you know the rules, or just outright lie about circumstances like this.
Exactly. I am no fan of Barta but at Iowa there seems to be a real checks and balances even Barta and his department even answer to. Especially after the whole women's lacross law suit and they got taken to the cleaners. Tighter than ever.
Now PSU, hate to bring this up but after the Sandusky/JoePa thing who really was in charge? IMO the faces have changed and they have acted accordingly but the Football above everything else culture hasn't. And Wrestling is also in that bubble now because Cael has created a championship culture.
Interesting hot take. Let's see we have the PD 3 adventure less than a year ago and a throat slash a few days ago from a "troubled wrestler". But hey that air guitar was the worst thing ever invented. Irony is not in your vocabulary.
But you don't do it at a kids expense. I am not a fan of how Brands coaches the team I love to watch wrestle. But as many faults as I can find, this isn't one.
Typical straw man argument. Stick to the actual subject.
But for your sake, how many hoops did PD3 have to jump through to earn his way back. How many did Montell Marion? Marion was eligible and still wasn't allowed to wrestle.
Did Long and now soon to be Teasdale have to wait or did they walk out in the PSU singlet the earliest Cael could get them out there?
But these are all stupid. Apples to apples would be Jrent and Gavins "academic" situations.
IMO it’s to get Teasdale off the books a year sooner so he and Howard aren’t eating up scholly money at the same weight for an extra year
I asked a question and you seem like you would like to flame rather than answer. Or you just don’t know the answer which is fine.
The NCAA rule is you have to be enrolled in a minimum of 12 credits to compete attached. Maybe there is a loophole, I don’t claim to know the answer to that.
I couldn’t care less if he wrestles attached. I was just questioning the accuracy of the report. PSU will blow out the scuffle field regardless. Hell they will likely blow out the NCAA field too.
No it wont. He shouldn't even be wrestling unattached until next fall if he has health, academic, or substance abuse issues. Notice JRent didn't wrestle unattached. Sometimes things are more important than wrestling even in a redshirt year.
Cory Clark was missing classes and not taking his school work serious at all his redshirt freshman year. That's why he got benched and Gilman started getting the nod. Clark is plenty smart and he got his priorities straight and turned out good. Jake Marlin not so much.
Just in the past year Iowa tried to bring PDIII in, brought in and immediately inserted into the lineup a guy with anger issues that tried to break another wrestlers arm and then had one wrestler shoot another and then had a cover up with police. Again, you had one wrestler SHOOT another and he is still on the team competing for a spot. You would think that in itself would be enough for you and your fellow Iowa fans to realize you do not have the higher ground when discussing coaching holding their athletes accountable or doing what's in their best interests..... and if that's not enough, we can go out further then the past year and talk about the numerous arrests with no suspensions for burglary, DUIs, public drunkenness, poaching and various firearm charges.
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It's hard to surprise me. I can't believe this was asked.
I think that’s a fair statement.
You are a slimy POS idiot troll from way back to Metcalf days. Your post is not accurate in a number of areas but I am not going to waste my time detailing them.
My guess is that Teasdale has enrolled for the 2nd semester and is now eligible.
Flaming Tiger is disingenuous. "Shoot" implies intent. There is an enormous difference between an accidental gun firing and shooting someone.
[QUOTE="Flying_Tiger, post: 6063093, member: 11988" Not to mention the numerous arrests with no suspensions for Burglary, DUIs, public drunkenness, poaching and firearm charges.[/QUOTE]
Who wasnt ever suspended or missed time for any of the above?
You are trying to change the topic.
SO do you personally think a kid who flunked out, had reported health issues (nice way of saying hooked on pills) should just immediately be given all the privliges back right away. Or should a kid just take a semester to completely prove he can be trusted academically and as a teammate again?
No harm in redshirting him, letting him be on the team for structure right. I am more than onboard if it helps Gavin work out of this and move on with a successful life. I applaud it.
But.....
Would he die and flunk out if he only went to practice and didn't suit up?
Who wasnt ever suspended or missed time for any of the above?
You are trying to change the topic.
SO do you personally think a kid who flunked out, had reported health issues (nice way of saying hooked on pills) should just immediately be given all the privliges back right away. Or should a kid just take a semester to completely prove he can be trusted academically and as a teammate again?
No harm in redshirting him, letting him be on the team for structure right. I am more than onboard if it helps Gavin work out of this and move on with a successful life. I applaud it.
But.....
Would he die and flunk out if he only went to practice and didn't suit up?
Yet, Clark was there when it mattered, just in the nick of time that year, right?
Not sure why you feel so confident in these "if" scenarios to make such a character assassination. You're essentially admitting you don't have all the facts to truly know what is best for Teasdale. But you are adamant that Cael is acting only in his own self-interest if he lets Teasdale wrestle in a holiday tournament during winter break.
You do not know what is best for Teasdale, because you do not know all the details of his circumstances. Your rant on Cael implies you think you know better. It's a foolish position to take with such high confidence.
C'mon, man, 170 isn't happening, with or without Teasdale. Just like Iowa isn't getting 139.
So negligently discharging a weapon that could of killed someone is ok? Your program had a history of firearm violations well before this incident. Maybe if Brands took those previous incidents seriously and handed out some suspensions your heavyweight wouldn't be recovering from a gun shot wound.
Yeah the next semester after his first semester in college was over and he proved he could be trusted academically. Oh and still had to beat Gilman in a wrestle off.
But if Cory had just flunked out his first semester you might be on to something there genius.
Try to keep up with an actual logical thought or comparison for the sake of the viewers at home
Good Grief
If Brands was doing this I would be all over him. Heck I was all over Brands for the Logan Ryan thing and even bringing him back on the team even after all the hoops the kid had to jump through.
But you cant even get one PSU fan to say, Yeah...maybe Gavin should just focus on other things until he earns but academic trust. Wrestling him isn't really something he has earned back yet.
Are there any of you out there????
But you cant even get one PSU fan to say, Yeah...maybe Gavin should just focus on other things until he earns but academic trust. Wrestling him isn't really something he has earned back yet.
Are there any of you out there????
