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Teasdale now back?

IMO it’s to get Teasdale off the books a year sooner so he and Howard aren’t eating up scholly money at the same weight for an extra year
Realistically, this could be a factor in the decision (assuming Teasdale really will be wrestling "attached"). Another factor could be that the PSU staff rather not redshirt both Teasdale and Teske at the same time, for lineup flexibility reasons. Also, assuming that Teasdale is better than Schnupp, another factor could simply be that Teasdale doesn't want to redshirt.
 
I asked a question and you seem like you would like to flame rather than answer. Or you just don’t know the answer which is fine.

The NCAA rule is you have to be enrolled in a minimum of 12 credits to compete attached. Maybe there is a loophole, I don’t claim to know the answer to that.

I couldn’t care less if he wrestles attached. I was just questioning the accuracy of the report. PSU will blow out the scuffle field regardless. Hell they will likely blow out the NCAA field too.
Or maybe, no one on this board from either fan base has the slightest idea what the facts are.
 
If Brands was doing this I would be all over him. Heck I was all over Brands for the Logan Ryan thing and even bringing him back on the team even after all the hoops the kid had to jump through.

But you cant even get one PSU fan to say, Yeah...maybe Gavin should just focus on other things until he earns but academic trust. Wrestling him isn't really something he has earned back yet.

Are there any of you out there????

Doing what? You don't know what Cael is "doing" other than allowing Teasdale to rejoin the team and wrestle.

You're not going to get a PSU fan to say, "Yeah, what Cael is doing is wrong," because most PSU fans do not truly know what the circumstances are with Teasdale. How do you know what the terms of "earning a chance to wrestle" should look like?

I told you earlier in the thread that I'll admit it looks bad if Teasdale wrestles attached this season. And I stand by that -- it will look bad. But I will have no idea whether it truly is bad, because I don't know all the facts of the circumstances. You will not, either.
 
[QUOTE="Flying_Tiger, post: 6063093, member: 11988" Not to mention the numerous arrests with no suspensions for Burglary, DUIs, public drunkenness, poaching and firearm charges.

Who wasnt ever suspended or missed time for any of the above?

You are trying to change the topic.

SO do you personally think a kid who flunked out, had reported health issues (nice way of saying hooked on pills) should just immediately be given all the privliges back right away. Or should a kid just take a semester to completely prove he can be trusted academically and as a teammate again?

No harm in redshirting him, letting him be on the team for structure right. I am more than onboard if it helps Gavin work out of this and move on with a successful life. I applaud it.
But.....

Would he die and flunk out if he only went to practice and didn't suit up?[/QUOTE]
the problem with all of this is simply this--not you, not me, not anyone on HR and not anyone on BWI.knows the whole story with Teasdale and what happend.
 
Of course he is. Was there ever any doubt?

Like I said in this thread a lot can be said about how Brands handles JRent and how Cael handles Gavin right now. One is doing it for the kid to put himself in a position to be successful and the other is doing it for his teams success. And that's assuming we are comparing apples to apples as both have academic issues right. Well what if Gavin's is drug addiction or Health?

Oh well JRent will get his grades in order and be on the team down the road. Gavin will be used up and spit out.

Cael Sanderson is the Steve Alford of College Wrestling.
If desanto wasn't here they wouldn't have tried to get jrent in the line up?
 
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Not sure why you feel so confident in these "if" scenarios to make such a character assassination. You're essentially admitting you don't have all the facts to truly know what is best for Teasdale. But you are adamant that Cael is acting only in his own self-interest if he lets Teasdale wrestle in a holiday tournament during winter break.

You do not know what is best for Teasdale, because you do not know all the details of his circumstances. Your rant on Cael implies you think you know better. It's a foolish position to take with such high confidence.

Competing is college athletics is a privilege. Many kids don't even get one chance let alone another. Teasdale's life is not dependent on him wrestling. It may be depending on getting a degree. There isn't one thing you can say that would prove that Gavin would need to actually compete on a mat in live action is the best thing for his life. Its a want, not a need.

That I am extremely confident in.
 
Doing what? You don't know what Cael is "doing" other than allowing Teasdale to rejoin the team and wrestle.

You're not going to get a PSU fan to say, "Yeah, what Cael is doing is wrong," because most PSU fans do not truly know what the circumstances are with Teasdale. How do you know what the terms of "earning a chance to wrestle" should look like?

I told you earlier in the thread that I'll admit it looks bad if Teasdale wrestles attached this season. And I stand by that -- it will look bad. But I will have no idea whether it truly is bad, because I don't know all the facts of the circumstances. You will not, either.

Exactly but what could possibly be going on that Gavin needs to be in wrestling competition as bad as he needs to breath to help him?

Wouldn't just letting him re enroll in school and practice and be on the team be enough supportive structure?

Why does he also need to be able to compete in a uniform above and beyond to help him?

Why the hurry to be in live competition?
 
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Just in the past year Iowa tried to bring PDIII in, brought in and immediately inserted into the lineup a guy with anger issues that tried to break another wrestlers arm and then had one wrestler shoot another and then had a cover up with police. Again, you had one wrestler SHOOT another and he is still on the team competing for a spot. You would think that in itself would be enough for you and your fellow Iowa fans to realize you do not have the higher ground when discussing coaching holding their athletes accountable or doing what's in their best interests..... and if that's not enough, we can out further then the past year and talk about the numerous arrests with no suspensions for burglary, DUIs, public drunkenness, poaching and various firearm charges.

Not sure what both sides listing negative stuff accomplishes but I’m not sure what motivates a penn state fan to preach about higher ground on an Iowa board. I will also guess that you don’t know what happened with Stoll and although I’d be ok with one wrestler not being on the Iowa team I’m more disappointed that some upperclassmen that should have been leading by example weren’t living the life. Fortunately that’s changing with some of the younger guys.

I understand why you wouldn’t know about Stoll but why don’t you check in with saint Carl regarding Long since you like to point out PD who never wrestled for the hawks. All the insiders at penn state never seem to be able to answer that question. FYI I do know and it’s directly from ISU’s staff at that time and in my opinion Carl is an unethical human being. Again my opinion but he will never be revered like gable by the wrestling community - I understand that probably bothers some.

You boys and girls from PSU should enjoy the ride and quit worrying about educating Iowa fans - do you really care what we think? I don’t post much and have never posted on another teams board so I don’t get it but to each his own. Hope Teasdale has his life squared away and gets the best out of his ability. Didn’t care for how things went down with Iowa but he made the decision that he thought was best for him. I’m ok with that PA state runner up choosing Iowa over the home state school that is at their all time high. That says something and I’d guess that has hurt some feelings.
 
Realistically, this could be a factor in the decision (assuming Teasdale really will be wrestling "attached"). Another factor could be that the PSU staff rather not redshirt both Teasdale and Teske at the same time, for lineup flexibility reasons. Also, assuming that Teasdale is better than Schnupp, another factor could simply be that Teasdale doesn't want to redshirt.


Which would be admitting Cael is putting what's best for him and his team first.
 
Exactly. I am no fan of Barta but at Iowa there seems to be a real checks and balances even Barta and his department even answer to. Especially after the whole women's lacross law suit and they got taken to the cleaners. Tighter than ever.

Now PSU, hate to bring this up but after the Sandusky/JoePa thing who really was in charge? IMO the faces have changed and they have acted accordingly but the Football above everything else culture hasn't. And Wrestling is also in that bubble now because Cael has created a championship culture.

That 2nd paragraph is sadly sick. Since you are all knowing can you tell us who besides Sandusky was found guilty of any crime, what was the crime, and what was the sentence. And the sadly sick talk re football culture= if the guilty party worked for the psychology dept., would there be a psychology dept. problem.
And now that ilk like this person have irreversibly put coach Paterno’s reputation in perjutory, the FACT that the lead attorney for the commonwealth, Frank Fina, said the coach took no action or inaction that warranted a criminal charge is los in the trash can of history.

Your pathology re the wrestling coach of the last decade is so juvenile, it is more sorryful re the post than anything else.
Gee, Minnesota used to be great in football; if Alabama would stop cheating, they would be great again.
Be FOR something, it will help your mind and sense of self.
 
Yeah the next semester after his first semester in college was over and he proved he could be trusted academically. Oh and still had to beat Gilman in a wrestle off.

But if Cory had just flunked out his first semester you might be on to something there genius.

Try to keep up with an actual logical thought or comparison for the sake of the viewers at home

Good Grief
It is amazing how much of exactly what happened with Teasdale you guys know, which is based on all of the shit that you all made up on this board.
 
Flaming Tiger is disingenuous. "Shoot" implies intent. There is an enormous difference between an accidental gun firing and shooting someone.
You know as much about that shooting as anyone knows about Teasdale. It's like a bunch of old women around a circle sowing blankets .nobody knows shit except the coaches and the wrestlers then we just talk lmfao .It's amazing how many people have made this kid out to be a drug addict or something else and then it turns to Cael and how he is at fault because he cheats which is stating the same thing above .Why don't I just say the sky is purple. Does that make it so lol
 
It’s really heart warming to see how many of you care about young Gavin and “his” best interests, you guys didn’t seem to care as much following the pledge to PSU from Iowa. Caring bunch here on HR
same as the caring bunch on BWI
 
You know as much about that shooting as anyone knows about Teasdale. It's like a bunch of old women around a circle sowing blankets .nobody knows shit except the coaches and the wrestlers then we just talk lmfao .It's amazing how many people have made this kid out to be a drug addict or something else and then it turns to Cael and how he is at fault because he cheats which is stating the same thing above .Why don't I just say the sky is purple. Does that make it so lol

I'd like to be enlightened. The way I understand it, sometime before 4:30AM a member of the wrestling team accidentally shot another member of the wrestling team, and the said shot member of the team lied to the police about it, resulting in a charge of making a false report to a public entity, which was plead down to disorderly conduct and a $150 fine. Both wrestlers were suspended for one match each -- clearly a punishment appropriate for the situation.
 
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I hope for the kids sake (Teasdale) he gets back and does what he has to do and that is follow the school rules..As far as not redshirting that is not fair he should have to..What ever the reason he had his trouble is he has to own that and pay the price. Should not be allowed to flunk our or drop all classes like not even in school and then start over this semester free of not taking any credits first semester..Cael does not need him to win might cost him another scholarship next year big deal he has the money to handle it . People can say what they want but Brands would never take a kid and put him in the starting line up right away after being told by his last school to go get treatment for being a drunk and then we might let u back.. So Cael needed a kid and used Long to win his first big ten title by a slim margin and we all know the rest of Longs story. Cael is a good wrestling coach but has no morals only to win at all cost. Sorry to say he will never have the respect of the majority wrestling fans like Gable does just like look at all the respect JoePa lost when winning was so important to him. ...
 
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I hope for the kids sake (Teasdale) he gets back and does what he has to do and that is follow the school rules..As far as not redshirting that is not fair he should have to..What ever the reason he had his trouble is he has to own that and pay the price. Should not be allowed to flunk our or drop all classes like not even in school and then start over this semester free of not taking any credits first semester..Cael does not need him to win might cost him another scholarship next year big deal he has the money to handle it . People can say what they want but Brands would never take a kid and put him in the starting line up right away after being told by his last school to go get treatment for being a drunk and then we might let u back.. So Cael needed a kid and used Long to win his first big ten title by a slim margin and we all know the rest of Longs story. Cael is a good wrestling coach but has no morals only to win at all cost. Sorry to say he will never have the respect of the majority wrestling fans like Gable does just like look at all the respect JoePa lost when winning was so important to him. ...

LOL! Clueless
 
I'd like to be enlightened. The way I understand it, sometime before 4:30AM a member of the wrestling team accidentally shot another member of the wrestling team, and the said shot member of the team lied to the police about it, resulting in a charge of making a false report to a public entity, which was plead down to disorderly conduct and a $150 fine. Both wrestlers were suspended for one match each -- clearly a punishment appropriate for the situation.


 
I'll tell you who has an addiction problem. Me. This thread is my heroin :)

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I'd like to be enlightened. The way I understand it, sometime before 4:30AM a member of the wrestling team accidentally shot another member of the wrestling team, and the said shot member of the team lied to the police about it, resulting in a charge of making a false report to a public entity, which was plead down to disorderly conduct and a $150 fine. Both wrestlers were suspended for one match each -- clearly a punishment appropriate for the situation.
at least no rabbits were harmed.
 
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I hope for the kids sake (Teasdale) he gets back and does what he has to do and that is follow the school rules..As far as not redshirting that is not fair he should have to..What ever the reason he had his trouble is he has to own that and pay the price. Should not be allowed to flunk our or drop all classes like not even in school and then start over this semester free of not taking any credits first semester..Cael does not need him to win might cost him another scholarship next year big deal he has the money to handle it . People can say what they want but Brands would never take a kid and put him in the starting line up right away after being told by his last school to go get treatment for being a drunk and then we might let u back.. So Cael needed a kid and used Long to win his first big ten title by a slim margin and we all know the rest of Longs story. Cael is a good wrestling coach but has no morals only to win at all cost. Sorry to say he will never have the respect of the majority wrestling fans like Gable does just like look at all the respect JoePa lost when winning was so important to him. ...
Wow, looks like someone needs a nap
 
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I hope for the kids sake (Teasdale) he gets back and does what he has to do and that is follow the school rules..As far as not redshirting that is not fair he should have to..What ever the reason he had his trouble is he has to own that and pay the price. Should not be allowed to flunk our or drop all classes like not even in school and then start over this semester free of not taking any credits first semester..Cael does not need him to win might cost him another scholarship next year big deal he has the money to handle it . People can say what they want but Brands would never take a kid and put him in the starting line up right away after being told by his last school to go get treatment for being a drunk and then we might let u back.. So Cael needed a kid and used Long to win his first big ten title by a slim margin and we all know the rest of Longs story. Cael is a good wrestling coach but has no morals only to win at all cost. Sorry to say he will never have the respect of the majority wrestling fans like Gable does just like look at all the respect JoePa lost when winning was so important to him. ...
Can't figure out whether this guy is the old man in the balcony on The Muppet Show, or grandpa Simpson.
 
My, but there are an awful lot of experts on the internet, aren't there?
So many of them know all of the details of the situation, and have nothing but the well being of a young man at heart. I feel so enlightened reading all of this. Happy New Year!
 
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ihawked kicked your asses, the answer is no not one pisser can admit it might be best if tease sits the year out.
 
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