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Teasdale now back?

for Cassar, he was injured during his RS year in the quarterfinals of the world juniors in Aug '15
He had surgery just after that and missed the entire 15/16 season and was not enrolled at school.
He was reinjured during the Jr world team trials in May 2016 when he beat Chip Ness but injury defaulted to Singletary. He had another surgery in July '16 which was described as a more complete surgery (I suspect he had an arthroscopy the first time and a full reconstruction the second) following which he missed all of the 16/17 season.
This would likely qualify as missing two seasons due to injury.
Also, you can't apply for the medical hardship waiver until after the 5 years of eligibility, so that's why no application at this point.

Very well, of course now you are going to have to explain how you received this top secret info to Hotfoot!!!
 
As for Rasheed's situation it's not as cut and dry as Cassar's. By the old parameters for receiving a 6th year waiver, he would not qualify. However, as we all know recently the NCAA has been much more lenient in granting these waivers. Much like Ashnault's situation Rasheed missed one year of competition due to injury, and an even better comparison would be Christian Pagdilao (ASU) as both he and Rasheed wrestled two competition dates early in the season before going down with a season ending injury. Personally I'm all for giving these kids the opportunity to compete and strive to achieve their goals when they have a season cut short due to injury. I fully support the possibility of Kem receiving a 6th year as I'm sure you all do as well.

KemDawg needs Knee surgery. What injury did Rasheed have?
 
Good grief. Who's making accusations here based on internet board rumors? The whole world knew of Cassar's injuries. It was also all over Flo. You're the one who specifically stated these exact words, not me.

"That path becomes a lot harder if their 84 and heavy get 6th years which they should not but would not surprise me."

So, why shouldn't they? You act like these guys are getting preferential treatment. Why would you deny them their opportunities? Why would anyone deny any athlete their right to 4 years of competition?
 
I dont know if this was said. But Teasdale was hamging out with the team in the gym after the PSU match.
 
I dont know if this was said. But Teasdale was hamging out with the team in the gym after the PSU match.
As I understand it, that match was on the PSU campus. Does anyone have an idea if the NCAA is alright with this? Will it fly if a suspended, ineligible, addicted, injured, not well liked, Trump hating, Foley loving, gun control advocate, or possibly even a terrorist, is hanging out with PSU team members??

There's got to be a violation in there somewhere we can discuss. This thread is in serious jeopardy of being overtaken by the Battle of Waterloo if you're not careful..
 
This thread has gotten out of hand... In the previous Teasdale thread (in November) it was said painkiller dependency was the issue. That may make sense if he is back. Detox/rehab? Don't know how long it takes but... As for RTC practices, there are specific rules. The college practice and an RTC practice must be separate practices. An RTC practice also can't include folk style etc. As far as the comments that keep popping up about working camps and earning money etc. For the record, a college wrestler is allowed to work wrestling camp, but there are guidelines and limits to how much they can be paid/earn. If Teasdale is already back, that is great. Wish him well in school and in health, but root against him in every match if you want.
If it is shady, or there is a bending of the rules, then shame on PSU. But most importantly, if he is back and healthy then celebrate that a kid may have gotten his $hi+ together and is back on the mat, and in school. That is a good thing, regardless of where they wrestle.
 
This thread has gotten out of hand... In the previous Teasdale thread (in November) it was said painkiller dependency was the issue. That may make sense if he is back. Detox/rehab? Don't know how long it takes but... As for RTC practices, there are specific rules. The college practice and an RTC practice must be separate practices. An RTC practice also can't include folk style etc. As far as the comments that keep popping up about working camps and earning money etc. For the record, a college wrestler is allowed to work wrestling camp, but there are guidelines and limits to how much they can be paid/earn. If Teasdale is already back, that is great. Wish him well in school and in health, but root against him in every match if you want.
If it is shady, or there is a bending of the rules, then shame on PSU. But most importantly, if he is back and healthy then celebrate that a kid may have gotten his $hi+ together and is back on the mat, and in school. That is a good thing, regardless of where they wrestle.

2 things:

1: you say RTC practices can't include folkstyle. Where did you read this and who is monitoring this? There is significant crossover between freestyle and folk. Drilling take downs, etc.

2: wrestlers absolutely are allowed to be paid for working camps. However the bylaws on how much they are allowed to be paid are incredibly vague and an area that could be taken advantage of as a 9.9 work around. Read the bylaws yourself on camp pay. This is something that was reported on back in 2014:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...paid-to-work-camps-problem-in-the-making/amp/
 
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I heard Gavin Teasdale is back at Penn St and he was at a RTC practice.
Last time I checked Iowa has a guy at 125 who's decent and will handle Teasdale so who cares.

Yep, don't care about block head. Not even going to read the last two pages after this one.
 
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2 things:

1: you say RTC practices can't include folkstyle. Where did you read this and who is monitoring this? There is significant crossover between freestyle and folk. Drilling take downs, etc.

2: wrestlers absolutely are allowed to be paid for working camps. However the bylaws on how much they are allowed to be paid are incredibly vague and an area that could be taken advantage of as a 9.9 work around. Read the bylaws yourself on camp pay. This is something that was reported on back in 2014:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...paid-to-work-camps-problem-in-the-making/amp/

As for RTC rules, it is a fact, they can't have folk style practice. With that said, a single is a freestyle maneuver, so is a double etc. Whether or not folk style translates to freestyle is meaningless. The rule is there and that is a fact. The issue is, you can't coach/have wrestlers spend time in referees position being ridden etc. I simply posted the actual rule. I don't care if you want to argue against it, or question it. If you don't trust my credibility, (which is understandable) that is fine. But it isn't my responsibility to look up and quote the USA Wrestling RTC/NCAA rules to meet your satisfaction, especially when I know I am 100% correct on this.

Yes, indeed, wrestlers are allowed to work camps (which I said), and everything else I said regarding working a camp was accurate.--not sure why you bothered to quote my post on this. Just because the rules regarding pay are vague and may be abused. My post did not in any way have any misinformation in it, and nobody said there wasn't any potential for abuse. I just posted what was true because some seem to argue you can't work camps and be paid for it--which is inaccurate. With that said, wtf would I want to read bylaws on camp pay? If you want to read them, knock yourself out. I know what the rules are, I know what kids get paid, and what I posted was 100% accurate..... What did I post that demonstrates I said anything that was inaccurate that I am confused on the issue, or need to read bylaws to be better informed?
 
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is a guy who comes on and actually posts some INFORMATION! You have this Hothead guy or whatever he calls himself once again acting like clintons lawyer!!!

"well you do know you can post that according to the......" If the kid was hurt and he wants a 6th year, I believe many will have to know why he should get one wouldn't you think?

Once again though the question remains, why did they not seek one 2 or 3 years ago?
Not sure if you didn’t read it all but at the end of impalanuts post, you know the one that you were so happy about that someone provided “INFORMATION”, he stated you can not apply for a medical hardship waiver until after your 5 years of eligibility
 
Did you know there was a rule against improper benefits when SMU got the death penalty? Academic rules when Minnesota vacated their final four? Everywhere Lou Holtz or Calipari or Eddie Sutton coached? Before I get assailed by the 'we do no wrong and how dare you suggest it' crowd I am not saying PSU cheats, currently they are just better. Do they push the limits? Yes, but currently they are the top dog and look to stay there. Just don't tell me things don't happen 'because there is a 'rule against it'
 
As for RTC rules, it is a fact, they can't have folk style practice. With that said, a single is a freestyle maneuver, so is a double etc. Whether or not folk style translates to freestyle is meaningless. The rule is there and that is a fact. The issue is, you can't coach/have wrestlers spend time in referees position being ridden etc. I simply posted the actual rule. I understand that it's a rule albeit a very difficult rule to enforce.

Yes, indeed, wrestlers are allowed to work camps (which I said), and everything else I said regarding working a camp was accurate.--not sure why you bothered to quote my post on this. Just because the rules regarding pay are vague and may be abused. My post did not in any way have any misinformation in it, and nobody said there wasn't any potential for abuse. I just posted what was true because some seem to argue you can't work camps and be paid for it--which is inaccurate. I haven't seen a single person on this forum making that argument. With that said, wtf would I want to read bylaws on camp pay? If you want to read them, knock yourself out. I know what the rules are, I know what kids get paid, What do the kids get paid? I think you're being disingenuous when you say you know what the kids get paid. The information is not public. You may know what some athletes get paid for working at certain camps. You certainly don't know what every single athlete is making while working at every single camp. and what I posted was 100% accurate..... What did I post that demonstrates I said anything that was inaccurate that I am confused on the issue, or need to read bylaws to be better informed? I wasn't claiming anything you said wasn't factual. I wasn't claiming that you are misinformed on camp pay. I was just saying the reason the camp pay stuff gets brought up is simply b/c of the vagueness of the bylaws and the potential loophole b/c of that fact hence the relevance of me mentioning the bylaws. Idk why camp pay is being brought up in this thread to begin with though.

I've put my responses in bold to your quote above.
 
Just don't tell me things don't happen 'because there is a 'rule against it'

lol exactly. The NCAA is filled with examples of rules being violated. Happens in every single sport. Football and basketball certainly have more oversight.

Free tattoo's cost OSU a bull game.
 
Who gives a fu*k. Teasedale wrestles. Maybe he sucks major ball sack in college and is just getting worked in the room. Maybe he goes Suriano and bails after figuring out shit is not the same when you where you were a high school hero. Suriano is an AA but he lost his shot at NCAA Champ by wrestling in Rutgers room

I've had enough enough of the 125 saga at PSU. Fix this shit Cael or Carl or Bael or whatever name they call you here
 
Who gives a fu*k. Teasedale wrestles. Maybe he sucks major ball sack in college and is just getting worked in the room. Maybe he goes Suriano and bails after figuring out shit is not the same when you where you were a high school hero. Suriano is an AA but he lost his shot at NCAA Champ by wrestling in Rutgers room

I've had enough enough of the 125 saga at PSU. Fis this shit Cael or Carl or Bael or whatever name they call you here
Did you wake up and have a boilermaker?
 
Who gives a fu*k. Teasedale wrestles. Maybe he sucks major ball sack in college and is just getting worked in the room. Maybe he goes Suriano and bails after figuring out shit is not the same when you where you were a high school hero. Suriano is an AA but he lost his shot at NCAA Champ by wrestling in Rutgers room

I've had enough enough of the 125 saga at PSU. Fix this shit Cael or Carl or Bael or whatever name they call you here

Finally - a thoughtful post from a PSU fan.
 
Just keeping it real folks. I don't know why but I like Iowa folks. I drank a few in the hotel with you guys at the football game here and just enjoy down home, good natured folks. I'm military and was visiting home and not even there for the game but I gotta say, Iowa fans are the best when they come to town. Had a great time with you folks
 
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Lol no, pissed that Spencer Lee was plucked out of our backyard to IA because of the Suriano shit. Lee should have been a Nittany Lion but clearly, made the right call.

Let's not forgot this thread is Teadale and ................good grief how thigs are so different
 
Who gives a fu*k. Teasedale wrestles. Maybe he sucks major ball sack in college and is just getting worked in the room. Maybe he goes Suriano and bails after figuring out shit is not the same when you where you were a high school hero. Suriano is an AA but he lost his shot at NCAA Champ by wrestling in Rutgers room

I've had enough enough of the 125 saga at PSU. Fix this shit Cael or Carl or Bael or whatever name they call you here

Lost his shot at a NC?? Bitter much?

He lost by 4 to a multi time age level world champion after spending a month in a hospital.

He is a much better wrestler now than he was at St cael u.

For all we know, Cael has already recruited over him and won’t spend time developing him.
 
Lost his shot at a NC?? Bitter much?

He lost by 4 to a multi time age level world champion after spending a month in a hospital.

He is a much better wrestler now than he was at St cael u.

For all we know, Cael has already recruited over him and won’t spend time developing him.

Bitter? about what? Lee wanted to win an NCAA Championship now and Suriano was in place at PSU. I don't blame him for going elsewhere.

Suriano bailed and 125 was left open after the fact. If I have any bitterness, it's toward Suriano for whatever the reason (we'll never know) leaving that gap in PSU's roster.

In the end, it appears Surianos best shot has passed him by (he practices at Rutgers).

But yeah, I'm bitter. I want National Champions in every weight
 
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Man, I can't see how much more objective I can be here on HR. Even with my screen name and yet still get vilified. I've been reading here for awhile and understand why IA fans are quick to jump on PSU fans but I don't think I deserved it.

Being a former PA H.S. wrestler I have great respect for the sport and am partial to PA kids, so yes, I want them at PSU. I did say I don't like the fact that a PA kid is a hammer at IA BUT I did say I get it, under the circumstances.

Funny thing is, I didn't say a negative damn thing about Iowa or Lee in my post. I actually agreed with both.

I ended it with the arbitrary "I want National Champions in ever weight". If that is "bitter" or "irrational" I guess this discussion is way over mantree's head.

National Champions in every weight - did you actually give that any serious thought at all before you responded that is was just hyperbole, or are you just hype-sensitive?
 
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Man, I can't see how much more objective I can be here on HR. Even with my screen name and yet still get vilified. I've been reading here for awhile and understand why IA fans are quick to jump on PSU fans but I don't think I deserved it.

Being a former PA H.S. wrestler I have great respect for the sport and am partial to PA kids, so yes, I want them at PSU. I did say I don't like the fact that a PA kid is a hammer at IA BUT I did say I get it, under the circumstances.

Funny thing is, I didn't say a negative damn thing about Iowa or Lee in my post. I actually agreed with both.

I ended it with the arbitrary "I want National Champions in ever weight". If that is "bitter" or "irrational" I guess this discussion is way over mantree's head.

National Champions in every weight - did you actually give that any serious thought at all before you responded that is was just hyperbole, or are you just hype-sensitive?

Banjo is a Rutgers fan, so he's upset you claim Suriano won't win a NC. I've never seen Manatree over here before. Likely also not a Hawk fan.
 
Didn't say "won't win" an NC. I said best shot would have been with the NLWC. Who at Rutgers is gonna train Suriano to beat Gross?

I also didn't say I had ill will against Suriano or Lee and hope they both achieve the accomplishments their potential has displayed. I actually want Lee to be a 4 timer just because he's a PA kid and can be lumped into convos with Kolat and Angle (showing my age). Years from now he will be still a PA kid, and a Hawkeye and I'm just fine with that.

But I guess the crux of your angst is you feel I am rooting against Suriano; which is patently false. I love wrestling and want to see all out battles in March (without any of this flu bull$hit).

My take is Suriano is still not on par with Gross, and I'm not the only one;

https://www.flowrestling.org/rankings/6249786-ncaa-rankings-2018-19/29666-133-seth-gross

Secondly, I feel if Suriano wanted to go home to NJ so badly he should have given Cael the opportunity to replace him during recruitment (Spencer Lee) but that didn't happen. So some sour grapes from me there, I can admit that.

Lastly, my original post was about Teasdale.........so go hijack some other thread
 
I ended it with the arbitrary "I want National Champions in ever weight". If that is "bitter" or "irrational" I guess this discussion is way over mantree's head.

National Champions in every weight - did you actually give that any serious thought at all before you responded that is was just hyperbole, or are you just hype-sensitive?

1 - I'm a Penn State fan
2 - I was joking, hence the "--> insert preferred emoji here <--"
2 - They must use a different dictionary in your area of PA
 
Ok.....mea culpa here I guess. Hard to understand how many PSU fans are on an Iowa board. Harder to understand when I use my work computer that doesn't allow emojis to appear.

I'm here because I genuinely like Hawkeye folks. Had a blast with them at the PSU/IA football game all weekend. They know wrestling and if you can cut through the dumb shit, you can learn a few things here.

I don't live in PA anymore. Left for Desert Storm and never came back. I currently use the Federal Government approved dictionary which is very different from your regional PA one.
 
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Who gives a fu*k. Teasedale wrestles. Maybe he sucks major ball sack in college and is just getting worked in the room. Maybe he goes Suriano and bails after figuring out shit is not the same when you where you were a high school hero. Suriano is an AA but he lost his shot at NCAA Champ by wrestling in Rutgers room

I've had enough enough of the 125 saga at PSU. Fix this shit Cael or Carl or Bael or whatever name they call you here
Yeah troll. Why don't you jump in the room and teach Cael a thing or two. You're like the worst troll ever on Rivals.
 
I thought he withdrew from school? My understanding is that would exclude him from being attached until the next semester starts.
 
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