The Democrats voting “uncommitted” in Michigan . . .

[torbee]

How dumb are these idiots?

This guy says he won’t vote for Biden in November if he doesn’t change his pro-Israel stance:

Dearborn resident Alwan Thafor, a 34-year-old commercial driver, said he wants to see Biden make more diplomatic efforts to end the war in Gaza. If nothing changes, he said he would likely sit out in November.

“I’m voting uncommitted to send a message to Biden that this should be taken seriously,” Thafor said. “Women and children are being killed for no reason.”

So what does this moron think Trump will do? He will give Netanyahu free rein to carpet bomb Gaza and not think twice about it. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face 🙄

 

[goldmom]

He will vote. The effort to send a message will die down and they’ll pull the lever for him in November along with voting for Rashida Tlaib.

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

Rep Tlaib is right there leading the charge, lol.

 

[Scruddy]

Maybe biden should do something to earn their vote. Are they only idiots in your mind bc they didn't follow your desires in how they voted?

 

[Masterprime]

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Maybe biden should do something to earn their vote. Are they only idiots in your mind bc they didn't follow your desires in how they voted?

They are idiots because if they choose by their inaction to help the opposition candidate to win than the thing they are most upset at Biden for will get far worse, not better.

If he's worried about the treatment of Palestinians he should be concerned more about how Trump will encourage Israel to treat them.

 

[10kHawk]

I’m beginning to think Trump winning is the only way to fix this. Let him come in scorch the country and maybe these idiots finally get some perspective. From the rubble a new and better America will rise or if not we had a good run

 

[joelbc1]

Rep Tlaib is right there leading the charge, lol.

Understood. But didn’t mean she is not misguided or wrong. I don’t understand the logic behind the protest.
I understand the tragedy of Palestinian kids being killed… but there is also the tragedy of Hamas bombing/killing Jews, too.
Palestinians are responsible for Hamas as they elected them years ago. Israel is responsible as they have poached and stolen land from Palestinians as they illegally moved into the West Bank.
It’s a damn mess. A “2 state” solution seems to be the best answer but how do we get there from where we are today?

 

[h-hawk]

I’m beginning to think Trump winning is the only way to fix this. Let him come in scorch the country and maybe these idiots finally get some perspective. From the rubble a new and better America will rise or if not we had a good run

These are trump Republicans-"from the RUBLE a new and better America will rise...."

 

[bhawk24bob]

I’m beginning to think Trump winning is the only way to fix this. Let him come in scorch the country and maybe these idiots finally get some perspective. From the rubble a new and better America will rise or if not we had a good run

Doubtful, a Tlaib voter isn't going to connect the dots there

 

[Scruddy]

They are idiots because if they choose by their inaction to help the opposition candidate to win than the thing they are most upset at Biden for will get far worse, not better.

If he's worried about the treatment of Palestinians he should be concerned more about how Trump will encourage Israel to treat them.

Can't get much worse than biden.. things were way better under trump lol

 

[Tom Paris]

I’m beginning to think Trump winning is the only way to fix this. Let him come in scorch the country and maybe these idiots finally get some perspective. From the rubble a new and better America will rise or if not we had a good run

It won't rise in my lifetime if this happens. It will take a LONG time to blow an autocracy.

 

[Scruddy]

It won't rise in my lifetime if this happens. It will take a LONG time to blow an autocracy.

Lol

 

[ihhawk]

Is this dude an immigrant?

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Rep Tlaib is right there leading the charge, lol.

 

[Scruddy]

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The woke mob eats its own.

 

[goldmom]

Understood. But didn’t mean she is not misguided or wrong. I don’t understand the logic behind the protest.
I understand the tragedy of Palestinian kids being killed… but there is also the tragedy of Hamas bombing/killing Jews, too.
Palestinians are responsible for Hamas as they elected them years ago. Israel is responsible as they have poached and stolen land from Palestinians as they illegally moved into the West Bank.
It’s a damn mess. A “2 state” solution seems to be the best answer but how do we get there from where we are today?

Oh brother. 🙃

 

[gohawks50]

I don't agree with her vote, but at least Democrats in congress are able to voice their opposition to Biden's policies without fear of retribution. I don't see many Republicans in congress willing to express any kind of opposition to Trump.

 

[BelemNole]

I have no problem with it. They're making a protest that has done what it was designed to do.
They won't vote for Trump in the end.

 

[Moral]

I guess their protest votes worked because conversation has started about it. Maybe those idiots aren't so dumb after all.

 

[Scruddy]

I don't agree with her vote, but at least Democrats in congress are able to voice their opposition to Biden's policies without fear of retribution. I don't see many Republicans in congress willing to express any kind of opposition to Trump.

Really? You've never seen a single republican say no to trump? Not one? You sure you wanna play this game?

 

[MepoDawg#]

Maybe some time soon both parties will wake up and realize better candidates are needed all around in many different races.

 

[Moral]

Maybe some time soon both parties will wake up and realize better candidates are needed all around in many different races.

 

[Jan Itor]

How dumb are these idiots?

This guy says he won’t vote for Biden in November if he doesn’t change his pro-Israel stance:

Dearborn resident Alwan Thafor, a 34-year-old commercial driver, said he wants to see Biden make more diplomatic efforts to end the war in Gaza. If nothing changes, he said he would likely sit out in November.

“I’m voting uncommitted to send a message to Biden that this should be taken seriously,” Thafor said. “Women and children are being killed for no reason.”

So what does this moron think Trump will do? He will give Netanyahu free rein to carpet bomb Gaza and not think twice about it. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face 🙄

Talib and the Squad are their leaders.

 

[Franisdaman]

Arab Americans' goal is pretty clear, which is to make sure Biden loses in November.

From CNBC:

For Arab Americans organizing across the country, the message is clear: No cease-fire, no vote.

Khalid Turaani, co-organizer of the Abandon Biden campaign, handed out pamphlets outside the Islamic Center of Detroit telling people to vote “uncommitted” on their ballots, and told the BBC in an interview published Tuesday that his group had made more than 30,000 calls with the same message.

“We’re doing all that we can to ensure that Biden is a one-term president,” Turaani said, according to the U.K. broadcaster. “In November, we will remember. When you stand against the will of the people, you’re going to lose.”

Biden faces anger from key Arab American voters in Michigan primary over Israel support in Gaza war

As voters head to the polls for Michigan's Democratic primary on Tuesday, there is a local campaign urging Democrats to choose "uncommitted" on the ballot as a form of protest vote.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Franisdaman]

This is a December 3 story from Reuters. In the almost 3 months that have passed since this article, thousands more Palestinians have been killed and Gaza has been further flattened by Israeli bombings.

Some excerpts:

Muslim Americans said they did not expect Trump to treat their community any better if reelected but saw denying Biden votes their only means to shape U.S. policy.

It remains to be seen whether Muslim voters would turn against Biden en masse, but small shifts in support could make a difference in states Biden won by narrow margins in 2020.

A recent poll showed Biden's support among Arab Americans has plunged from a comfortable majority in 2020 to 17%.

That could be decisive in a state like Michigan where Biden won by 2.8 percentage points and Arab Americans account for 5 percent of the vote, according to the Arab American Institute.

There are around 25,000 Muslim voters in Wisconsin, a state where Biden won by about 20,000 votes, said Tarek Amin, a doctor representing the state's Muslim community.

"We will change the vote, we will swing it," said Amin.

In Arizona, where Biden won by around 10,500 votes, there are over 25,000 Muslim voters according to the US Immigration Policy Center at the University of California San Diego, said Phoenix pharmacist Hazim Nasaredden.

"We will not stand with a man who has tainted a blue wave with red drops of blood," said Nasaredden.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslim-americans-face-abandon-biden-dilemma-then-who-2023-12-02/

 

[gohawks50]

Really? You've never seen a single republican say no to trump? Not one? You sure you wanna play this game?

Please link some examples of Republicans in congress disagreeing publicly with Trump.

 

[Roncuba55]

Please link some examples of Republicans in congress disagreeing publicly with Trump.

I won't link them, off the top of my head Chris Christie and Mitt Romney are two heavy hitter republicans who have openly criticized and disagreed with Trump.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Arab Americans' goal is pretty clear, which is to make sure Biden loses in November.

From CNBC:

For Arab Americans organizing across the country, the message is clear: No cease-fire, no vote.

Khalid Turaani, co-organizer of the Abandon Biden campaign, handed out pamphlets outside the Islamic Center of Detroit telling people to vote “uncommitted” on their ballots, and told the BBC in an interview published Tuesday that his group had made more than 30,000 calls with the same message.

“We’re doing all that we can to ensure that Biden is a one-term president,” Turaani said, according to the U.K. broadcaster. “In November, we will remember. When you stand against the will of the people, you’re going to lose.”

Biden faces anger from key Arab American voters in Michigan primary over Israel support in Gaza war

As voters head to the polls for Michigan's Democratic primary on Tuesday, there is a local campaign urging Democrats to choose "uncommitted" on the ballot as a form of protest vote.

www.cnbc.com

That's insane, it seems extremely counterproductive to their actual goals.

Boy, there sure is a heaping helping of short-sighted stupidity on both sides of the political equation in this country.

 

[thewop]

When neither candidate wants what you want there's a pretty good chance you just want the wrong thing...

 

[Scruddy]

Please link some examples of Republicans in congress disagreeing publicly with Trump.

Chris Christie, mitt Romney, Ole cocaine mitch McConnell, Liz cheney, Adam kinzinger (okay, the last two are actually democrats). How many more names do you want? I assure you, I can keep going.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I won't link them, off the top of my head Chris Christie and Mitt Romney are two heavy hitter republicans who have openly criticized and disagreed with Trump.

Lets amend that to people who have a chance at re-election after being critical of Trump.

 

[gohawks50]

I won't link them, off the top of my head Chris Christie and Mitt Romney are two heavy hitter republicans who have openly criticized and disagreed with Trump.

Chris Christie isn't in congress and Mitt Romney is retiring so he's not worried about being primaried because of his disagreement with Trump.

 

[jneffer]

Chris Christie, mitt Romney, Ole cocaine mitch McConnell, Liz cheney, Adam kinzinger (okay, the last two are actually democrats). How many more names do you want? I assure you, I can keep going.

naming a bunch of people who have been essentially excommunicated from the republican party because they disagree with trump isn't making the point you think you're making

every single one of them has been chased out of the party

 

[gohawks50]

Chris Christie, mitt Romney, Ole cocaine mitch McConnell, Liz cheney, Adam kinzinger (okay, the last two are actually democrats). How many more names do you want? I assure you, I can keep going.

Christie, Cheney, and Kinzinger are not in congress. Romney is retiring so he doesn't worry about being primaried. I guess McConnell has stood up to Trump occasionally.

 

[MepoDawg#]

Yes, its silly to think a majority of American politicians and voters for that matter can think for themselves and do what’s best for our country.

 

[torbee]

Talib and the Squad are their leaders.

I’m so glad the lunatics are the small minority of the party I generally prefer and not the mass majority as in the GOP!

 

[torbee]

Yes, it’s silly to think a majority of American politicians and voters for that matter can think for themselves and do what’s best for our country.

Not surprised you miss the point.

In this case the alternative to the person they are protesting is far more radically anti-Palestine than the person they are protesting.

 

[torbee]

I guess their protest votes worked because conversation has started about it. Maybe those idiots aren't so dumb after all.

If Trump wins Michigan and the presidency, these people are going to be very, very sorry. And they will deserve it.

 

[Scruddy]

Roy Blunt, Susan Collins, Mike Lee, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski.... I can still keep going.