The Elon Musk Twitter shitshow

[unIowa]

The psycho is the owner

The real psychos are the ones who stormed the Capital on January 6th, the ones who burned down municipal and private businesses in the Flyod riots and the ones who continue to deamonize others who don't think with the hive mind of either the democrat or republican party. If these groups could just suicide themselves the world would be better organized and more in harmony. Then we would have a chance to advance together as a society.

The normals HATE you guys.

 

[unIowa]

How is he doing that? The strong central government is literally Space X's main customer.

SpaceX has been a huge advantage to the US taxpayer.

SpaceX costs are lower​

The ULA monopoly ended when SpaceX began to compete for national security payloads alongside ULA, and launch them. (The California-based company's first national security launch, a National Reconnaissance Office spy satellite, came in May). And side-by-side the government's estimates for ULA launches, SpaceX's costs appear to be considerably lower.

For example, about 14 months ago, the Air Force awarded SpaceX an $83 million contract to launch a GPS 3 satellite. And in March 2017, SpaceX won a contract to launch another GPS 3 satellite for $96.5 million. These represent "all-in, fully burdened costs" to the government, and so they seem to be roughly comparable to the $422 million "unit cost" in the Air Force budget for 2020.

FURTHER READING​

Citing costs, US Air Force turns to SpaceX for its next spy plane launch
SpaceX sells basic commercial launches of its Falcon 9 rocket for about $65 million. But, for military launches, there are additional range costs and service contracts that add tens of millions of dollars to the total price. It therefore seems possible that SpaceX is taking a loss or launching at little or no profit to undercut its rival and gain market share in the high-volume military launch market.

Air Force budget reveals how much SpaceX undercuts launch prices

Spoiler alert: It’s a lot.

arstechnica.com

 

[LBoogie28]

Get to work son!

Is that aimed at Elon, or me? Going by your previous/declaration, it must be Elon.

 

[Chishawk1425]

The real psychos are the ones who stormed the Capital on January 6th, the ones who burned down municipal and private businesses in the Flyod riots and the ones who continue to deamonize others who don't think with the hive mind of either the democrat or republican party. If these groups could just suicide themselves the world would be better organized and more in harmony. Then we would have a chance to advance together as a society.

The normals HATE you guys.

You guys? 😆

 

[unIowa]

I guess that makes Elon “that pedo guy.”

Apparently it has been cut significantly from when the democrats controlled it.

 

[unIowa]

Is that aimed at Elon, or me? Going by your previous/declaration, it must be Elon.

Its for everyone!

 

[Chishawk1425]

Apparently it has been cut significantly from when the democrats controlled it.

The Democrats didn't control it. Lolololololololololololololololololol you are the running joke of this thread.

 

[unIowa]

The Democrats didn't control it. Lolololololololololololololololololol you are the running joke of this thread.

So if the democrats didn't run it why are so many acting as if it is now controlled by the far right?

Thank you for proving my points.

 

[unIowa]

He's literally a defense contractor and Tesla makes a lot of its money selling carbon credits. He is entirely dependent on the government. Iron Man isn't real, libertarians

LOL...carbon credits were a democrat construct.

 

[ConvenientParking]

LOL...carbon credits were a democrat construct.

I guess? The point is Elon hasn't saved humanity from anything yet and he's making his money in industries that are supported by the government. He's not the tech messiah.

 

[unIowa]

I guess? The point is Elon hasn't saved humanity from anything yet and he's making his money in industries that are supported by the government. He's not the tech messiah.

So one half of the political parties shall talk him down, call him racist, call him a phone. All while the other party starts supporting the guy that has been one of the biggest players in the green technology transformation.

It is so predictively stupid of our current political environment. So many adults acting like children, we have failed our kids.

 

[ConvenientParking]

So one half of the political parties shall talk him down, call him racist, call him a phone. All while the other party starts supporting the guy that has been one of the biggest players in the green technology transformation.

It is so predictively stupid of our current political environment. So many adults acting like children, we have failed our kids.

I think it's weird that grown men are worshipping him like he's going to save us, that's all.

 

[JRHawk2003]

So one half of the political parties shall talk him down, call him racist, call him a phone. All while the other party starts supporting the guy that has been one of the biggest players in the green technology transformation.

It is so predictively stupid of our current political environment. So many adults acting like children, we have failed our kids.

I just hate him for old fashioned reasons; he is a trust fund baby who has most everything because of who he was born to. He isn't self made in any way and the worship of him is nauseating. He is a secular financial Joel Osteen.

 

[unIowa]

I think it's weird that grown men are worshipping him like he's going to save us, that's all.

Calling out the lunacy of one group towards one person is worshipping him? I get calling out Trump, that made sense as he was a real danger to our democracy and human decency. Elon is not even in the same universe as Trump, the cry party is totally unwarranted and for anyone who steps outside of their politics they would see it as well.

We need to remove marketing and branding out of politics, as I have said not everyone is a hero or villain but that is the current theme our leaders are pitching.

Joe Biden is a pedo sniffer = stupid
Elon is a right wing operative = stupid
Trump is a danger to the US = True
A US citizen crying that they are so oppressed = stupid
May I see your Manager Karens = stupid
Ye = stupid

Everything political is pretty much run by babies anymore as they have decided to replace logic with 5 year old emotions. Just burn the US political system down now, slap all the babies back to reality, and lets start over.

 

[unIowa]

I just hate him for old fashioned reasons; he is a trust fund baby who has most everything because of who he was born to. He isn't self made in any way and the worship of him is nauseating. He is a secular financial Joel Osteen.

That isn't an old fashioned reason. My reasons for hate are old fashioned, I hate adults for acting like victim crybabies.

Do you want your kids to have more than what you had, do you want to pass anything on to them? If you do and that amount is significantly more than someone else then your kids are just like Elon in their mind. Bunch of spoiled brats born on second base.

 

[JRHawk2003]

That isn't an old fashioned reason. My reasons for hate are old fashioned, I hate adults for acting like victim crybabies.

Do you want your kids to have more than what you had, do you want to pass anything on to them? If you do and that amount is significantly more than someone else then your kids are just like Elon in their mind. Bunch of spoiled brats born on second base.

That's ironic since you whined this whole thread. Politics has marketing. You aren't a victim. /Story

 

[ConvenientParking]

Calling out the lunacy of one group towards one person is worshipping him? I get calling out Trump, that made sense as he was a real danger to our democracy and human decency. Elon is not even in the same universe as Trump, the cry party is totally unwarranted and for anyone who steps outside of their politics they would see it as well.

We need to remove marketing and branding out of politics, as I have said not everyone is a hero or villain but that is the current theme our leaders are pitching.

Joe Biden is a pedo sniffer = stupid
Elon is a right wing operative = stupid
Trump is a danger to the US = True
A US citizen crying that they are so oppressed = stupid
May I see your Manager Karens = stupid
Ye = stupid

Everything political is pretty much run by babies anymore as they have decided to replace logic with 5 year old emotions. Just burn the US political system down now, slap all the babies back to reality, and lets start over.

Maybe I mistook your centrist normie defense of Elon as you being an Elon stan (we only have one Elon reply guy which is low for the internet). Sorry. I don't care about Twitter personally. It is weird to me that there is a world of Elon stans. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos don't have fans like Elon and they've had a greater impact on a greater amount of peoples' daily lives.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Maybe I mistook your centrist normie defense of Elon as you being an Elon stan (we only have one Elon reply guy which is low for the internet). Sorry. I don't care about Twitter personally. It is weird to me that there is a world of Elon stans. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos don't have fans like Elon and they've had a greater impact on a greater amount of peoples' daily lives.

They earned their wealth and status

 

[lucas80]

Anyone who attempts to assert that there is no liberal media bias doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

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I saw a funny/sad graph today. It showed the mentions of crime by Fox, and the mentions of crime by the other Networks. Fox was about 4x as many mentions right up until November, and then it cratered to less than the other networks.

 

[lucas80]

Has anyone ever been swayed to see things a different way because of discussion on HORT?

Yes. I can honestly say I've changed my mind once or twice, and do appreciate the 3-4 rational Republicans left.
I've had two posters say they were swayed by my anti death penalty arguments to rethink their support of the death penalty.

 

[unIowa]

I saw a funny/sad graph today. It showed the mentions of crime by Fox, and the mentions of crime by the other Networks. Fox was about 4x as many mentions right up until November, and then it cratered to less than the other networks.

Which is why an unfiltered media outlet is needed even if it is the wild west at the moment.

 

[lucas80]

You can be an awful person and still be partially correct about a few things. How is this tweet hurting you?

Inappropriate use of the word woke, for starters.

 

[fsu1jreed]

LOL...carbon credits were a democrat construct.

Cap&Trade/Offset Credits were thought by Reagan you idiot

 

[unIowa]

Yes. I can honestly say I've changed my mind once or twice, and do appreciate the 3-4 rational Republicans left.
I've had two posters say they were swayed by my anti death penalty arguments to rethink their support of the death penalty.

The death penalty is easy;

1. Sometimes they have got it wrong.
2. Appeals are way too expensive for the taxpayer.
3. It doesn't really make many people feel better in the end and the threat has been neutralized via life in prisons.

 

[lucas80]

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I guess when you fire the entire staff who monitored for it.....yeah, I'd say "the shoe fits" here....

And, this should end the thread. It's symbolic of the massive cock up that is Musk's tenure at Twitter. He had no plan, and now it looks like an angry drunk Is running things while ranting away.
This is the reason advertisers are leaving. This is why people are leaving. Twitter is turning into an absolute s*** show. You want to advertise on a platform that has no controls over child sex predators, anti semites, anti vaxxers, racists...

 

[Huey Grey]

I don't think political leaders like people who have the capacity to transcend government. I think why many like Elon is bc he is proving out that central govts are not all that necessary for humanity to achieve major history changing accomplishments.

Personally if getting rid of strong central govts meant we also were able to get rid of some of you lunatics on the left and right it would be a really good thing for society.

Twitter would not exist without a strong central government. The entire platform is built on systems originally built by the government.

 

[Joes Place]

 

[ft254]

Hilarious that the dems are all pissed at musk now because he unbanned all the right wingers and is promoting free speech. They can no longer control the narrative and are terrified that people will be able to access unbiased information. For that they will now stop buying his cars and try to destroy him after championing him for years...

Hate speech, if it contains triggers is not free speech.

You can speak on racism but not promote violent resistance to it. Of course, the old "you have the right of free speech but can't yell FIRE is a theater" adage applies.

The FBI, other agencies monitor, and social media sites self-monitor the internet to find these triggers. It is obvious mass shootings have been copy-cat and racist incited. The Orange Turd was banned from Twitter for a reason; he was out of control with his rhetoric. Threats that were carried out on his behalf by individuals based on his lies; i.e. election officals in Arizona having to go in hiding fearing for their lives.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

SpaceX has been a huge advantage to the US taxpayer.

SpaceX costs are lower​

The ULA monopoly ended when SpaceX began to compete for national security payloads alongside ULA, and launch them. (The California-based company's first national security launch, a National Reconnaissance Office spy satellite, came in May). And side-by-side the government's estimates for ULA launches, SpaceX's costs appear to be considerably lower.

For example, about 14 months ago, the Air Force awarded SpaceX an $83 million contract to launch a GPS 3 satellite. And in March 2017, SpaceX won a contract to launch another GPS 3 satellite for $96.5 million. These represent "all-in, fully burdened costs" to the government, and so they seem to be roughly comparable to the $422 million "unit cost" in the Air Force budget for 2020.

FURTHER READING​

Citing costs, US Air Force turns to SpaceX for its next spy plane launch
SpaceX sells basic commercial launches of its Falcon 9 rocket for about $65 million. But, for military launches, there are additional range costs and service contracts that add tens of millions of dollars to the total price. It therefore seems possible that SpaceX is taking a loss or launching at little or no profit to undercut its rival and gain market share in the high-volume military launch market.

Air Force budget reveals how much SpaceX undercuts launch prices

Spoiler alert: It’s a lot.

arstechnica.com

I'm not saying it hasn't. I am saying that SpaceX's main customer is the strong central government that you are claiming Elon is showing us we don't need.

SpaceX certainly needs them!

 

[seminole97]

Tony Stark was…not Iron Man.

I owned precisely zero comic books as a kid, have only see a few of the Marvel movies, so if there is a deeper distinction you’re trying to make here it will take more effort.
If Tony Stark wasn’t Iron Man, who was?

 

[unIowa]

Twitter would not exist without a strong central government. The entire platform is built on systems originally built by the government.

Stop worshiping govt, its dangerous.

 

[unIowa]

I'm not saying it hasn't. I am saying that SpaceX's main customer is the strong central government that you are claiming Elon is showing us we don't need.

SpaceX certainly needs them!

And the tax payers need companies like SpaceX as they are providing value and doing something govt isn't good at...reducing costs via commercialization. Maybe we shouldn't be trying to tear these companies and their leaders down, but that's just me.

Why are govts bad at reducing costs? Because they really don't produce anything (outside of death via war and destruction), they take from others and THEN produce something (often times just taking from one hand and giving it to another). The entity as a whole doesn't work for its money, they don't have to keep tight budgets, and they never want those budgets to shrink...their incentive for reducing costs and being efficient is very low.

 

[unIowa]

I owned precisely zero comic books as a kid, have only see a few of the Marvel movies, so if there is a deeper distinction you’re trying to make here it will take more effort.
If Tony Stark wasn’t Iron Man, who was?

There is no Tony Stark, there is no Iron Man, there are no heros or villians...there are only people.

 

[tumorboy]

Stop worshiping govt, its dangerous.

Don't worship anyone. Just as dangerous. Churches, celebrities, corporations, politicians, CEO's what have u.

 

[unIowa]

Don't worship anyone. Just as dangerous. Churches, celebrities, corporations, politicians, CEO's what have u.

If we go to the @ClarindaA's sex thread it appears we all should be worshiping vagina.

 

[seminole97]

I just hate him for old fashioned reasons; he is a trust fund baby who has most everything because of who he was born to. He isn't self made in any way and the worship of him is nauseating. He is a secular financial Joel Osteen.

People shower Musk’s companies with money for their products. I’m not sure what Osteen sells except books and fairy tales people want to hear.

If I gave you a thousand dollars, could you turn it into a million?
Do you think if I gave you a million dollars, that you could turn it into a billion?

It seems like very, very few people actually have that ability.

 

[tumorboy]

If we go to the @ClarindaA's sex thread it appears we all should be worshiping vagina.

Well can u think of anything stronger than a Vagina?

 

[JRHawk2003]

People shower Musk’s companies with money for their products. I’m not sure what Osteen sells except books and fairy tales people want to hear.

If I gave you a thousand dollars, could you turn it into a million?
Do you think if I gave you a million dollars, that you could turn it into a billion?

It seems like very, very few people actually have that ability.

Sure...just use an index fund. Its not rocket science. I would just stick in a SPDR and leave it there.

 

[Huey Grey]

Stop worshiping govt, its dangerous.

It's a fair point, though. Twitter would not exist without many government funded initiatives like the internet and satellites. It is a platform built on government technologies. It's also fair to point out that Musk didn't build Twitter. He simply bought it after it was a massively successful enterprise.

So I'm struggling to see how this is proof that Musk is a real life Tony Stark. Because what I see is a guy who buys existing technologies and rebrands them.

 

[tumorboy]

It's a fair point, though. Twitter would not exist without many government funded initiatives like the internet and satellites. It is a platform built on government technologies. It's also fair to point out that Musk didn't build Twitter. He simply bought it after it was a massively successful enterprise.

So I'm struggling to see how this is proof that Musk is a real life Tony Stark. Because what I see is a guy who buys existing technologies and rebrands them.

I'd say a poor man's Steve Jobs and/or Howard Hughes wannabe. Is the best comp.