The Elon Musk Twitter shitshow
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What does Biden have to do with this? Not sure where this presidency argument even has in this discussion?
My point is that Musk buys existing technologies companies and re-tools them. Some, like Tesla, are successful. Other ventures, like his weird obsession with digital currency, goes nowhere.
I'm simply pointing out that he isn't a transcendent visionary like you claim him to be. He is a re-packager. I can't think of one brand new thing he's ever done.
Oh, you don't actually know what you're talking about.
My bad, we're done here.
Falcon 9 first-stage boosters landed successfully in 153 of 164 attempts (93.3%), with 127 out of 132 (96.2%) for the Falcon 9 Block 5 version. A total of 129 re-flights of first stage boosters have all successfully launched their payloads.
He's like Steve Jobs was on some of his accomplishments.
Bunch of firsts with SpaceX though
| Date | Achievement | Flight |
|---|---|---|
| 28 September 2008 | First privately funded fully liquid-fueled rocket to reach orbit.[101] | Falcon 1 flight 4 |
| 14 July 2009 | First privately developed liquid-fueled rocket to put a commercial satellite in orbit. | RazakSAT on Falcon 1 flight 5 |
| 9 December 2010 | First private company to successfully launch, orbit, and recover a spacecraft. | SpaceX Dragon on SpaceX COTS Demo Flight 1 |
| 25 May 2012 | First private company to send a spacecraft to the International Space Station (ISS).[102] | Dragon C2+ |
| 22 December 2015 | First landing of an orbital-class rocket's first stage on land. | Falcon 9 B1019 on Orbcomm OG2 M2 |
| 8 April 2016 | First landing of an orbital-class rocket's first stage on an ocean platform. | Falcon 9 B1021 on SpaceX CRS-8 |
| 30 March 2017 | First reuse, reflight and (second) landing of an orbital first stage.[68] | Falcon 9 B1021 on SES-10 |
| 30 March 2017 | First controlled flyback and recovery of a payload fairing.[103] | SES-10 |
| 3 June 2017 | First re-flight of a commercial cargo spacecraft.[104] | Dragon C106 on SpaceX CRS-11 |
| 6 February 2018 | First private spacecraft launched into heliocentric orbit. | Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster on Falcon Heavy test flight |
| 2 March 2019 | First private company to send a human-rated spacecraft to orbit. | Crew Dragon Demo-1 |
| 3 March 2019 | First private company to autonomously dock a crew-capable spacecraft to the International Space Station (ISS). | |
| 25 July 2019 | First flight of a full-flow staged combustion cycle engine (Raptor).[105] | Starhopper |
| 11 November 2019 | First reuse and re flight of payload fairing. The fairing was from the ArabSat-6A mission in April 2019.[106] | Starlink 2 v1.0 |
| January 2020 | Largest commercial satellite constellation operator in the world.[80] | Starlink 3 v1.0 |
| 30 May 2020 | First private company to send humans into orbit.[107] | Crew Dragon Demo-2 |
| 31 May 2020 | First private company to send humans to the International Space Station (ISS).[108] | |
| 24 January 2021 | Most spacecraft launched into space on a single mission, with 143 satellites.[a][109] | Transporter-1 on Falcon 9 |
| 23 April 2021 | First reuse and reflight of a crewed space capsule.[110] | Crew Dragon Endeavour |
| 17 June 2021 | First reused booster launch for a 'national security' mission.[111] | GPS III-05 on Falcon 9, second flight of booster B1062 |
| 16 September 2021 | First orbital launch of an all-private crew.[112][113] | Inspiration4 |
| 24 November 2021 | Longest streak of orbital launches without a mission failure or partial failure for a single rocket type (Falcon 9, 101 launches).[114] | Double Asteroid Redirection Test |
| 9 April 2022 | First all civilian crew to dock with the International Space Station[115] | Axiom Mission 1 |
| 20 October 2022 | Highest number of launches of a single rocket type in a calendar year (Falcon 9, 48 launches).[116] | Starlink 4-36 |
You forgot one:
27, October, 2022: Buys twitter and destroys the world (according to over the top political bros)
Fine. The first stage is reusable. But the second stage is not. So Musk uses a partially reusable rocket system.
Keep coming back for more, at least you’re learning something today.
Starship is a fully-reusable, super-heavy-lift launch vehicle being developed by American aerospace company SpaceX. If successful, Starship will be the most powerful launch vehicle ever built and is expected to be the first to demonstrate total reusability.
Yeah, the amount of drama around Musk and Twitter is pretty hilarious. Lots of annoying people all the way around. In the end it just feels like a proxy for the a lot of the stupid political infighting that's already taking place. Same war different topic. I lol.
So you admit that Space X does not use fully reusable rockets then. I accept this admission.
And Starship does not exist. It's speculative. This is really all you've got?
All I was doing was pointing out that SpaceX and Musk have been responsible for a lot of innovation. See list of innovation. I didn't read or pay attention to your fully reusable rocket point.
We've had satellites since the 50s, men in space since the early 60s, men on the moon shortly after that, partially reusable rockets since 60s, and multiple space stations for decades now.
Has SpaceX had many firsts? Sure. But lets put things in perspective here. Space exploration, and feats that Musk still can't touch, were done half a century ago.
And my apologies. I didn't mean to respond to your post. I accidently added that responding to seminole.
They’re designing them and testing them right now. You’re ignorant of this, I understand, but why you keep seeking to share that ignorance is elusive.
Eight prototype Starship second stage vehicles, each with different vehicle configurations, have flown nine suborbital test flights in the period between July 2019 and May 2021.
They performed another booster test yesterday, and speculation is the first orbital test will come next month.
Cool, hope they succeed. But right now they are using partially discardable rockets. So the claim that Space X is fully reusable is bunk. Not sure why you just can't admit this?
No one made the claim: “SpaceX is fully reusable.”
You asked:
And I replied: Reusable spaceship is the biggie.
When the man is put in his grave the reusable rocket that he created SpaceX to achieve will be the biggest mark he has left on history.
It’s how we’re going to colonize the Moon and beyond over the next two decades.
Um, you seem to be claiming reusability right here. It hasn't happened yet.
And this comes across as a pretty small mark when it comes to space exploration. We have had vehicles on Mars for 25 years now. Vehicles on the moon for 50 years now. And space stations so old they died out decades ago. So a reusable second stage kind of loses its luster as far as history goes.
Musk just claimed that Twitter has interfered in past elections...@Huey Grey @JRHawk2003 do you want to know the details of this if it is true or is this rather something you would see swept under the rug?
If this is true is it why democrat leaders have chosen to start attacking Musk and if that is the case should they be forced to resign in shame from their positions as well as anyone else who participated in the election interference? Should some be jailed? I think if he is right some should be jailed just like the scumbag Trumpers (and Trump himself) in govt positions that broke laws.
If this is true is it why democrat leaders have chosen to start attacking Musk and if that is the case should they be forced to resign in shame from their positions as well as anyone else who participated in the election interference? Should some be jailed? I think if he is right some should be jailed just like the scumbag Trumpers (and Trump himself) in govt positions that broke laws.
Elon Musk is speaking out against government subsidies. Here's a list of the billions of dollars his businesses have received.
Musk's companies benefited from subsidies as recently as April, when SpaceX won a $2.89 billion contract from NASA. Tesla got subsidies for years.
www.businessinsider.com
This smells like his failed hyper loop plan all over again. You have to admit, Musk has a habit of over promising on things.
Elon Musk's tunnel startup to ramp up hyperloop testing this year
Elon Musk's tunnel startup The Boring Company plans to begin "full-scale" testing of hyperloop, a still theoretical transportation system that sends
techcrunch.com
Sure it will. Just like his promise that his Starship rocket would be doing routine launches by now. Musk is a huckster.Elon Musk's tunnel startup to ramp up hyperloop testing this year
Elon Musk's tunnel startup The Boring Company plans to begin "full-scale" testing of hyperloop, a still theoretical transportation system that sends
Elon Musk Picks Wildly Ambitious Target of Next Month for First Starship Orbital Launch
Emboldened by the FAA's recent decision, the SpaceX CEO figures he's now on the verge of launching Starship rockets, but plenty of hurdles remain.
gizmodo.com
The U.S. isn’t going to just watch the Chinese do it alone.
The fuel of the future is solar wind that will be mined from the surface of the moon.
Trips to the Moon are scheduled this decade. Permanent outposts will follow. The ‘gold rush’ will happen after He-3 fusion reactors become commercially viable and need to be fed.
Sure it will. Just like his promise that his Starship rocket would be doing routine launches by now. Musk is a huckster.
Elon Musk Picks Wildly Ambitious Target of Next Month for First Starship Orbital Launch
Emboldened by the FAA's recent decision, the SpaceX CEO figures he's now on the verge of launching Starship rockets, but plenty of hurdles remain.
You don't get very far in life being 100% risk adverse. Magellan didn't sail the world by selling a small vision.
You have to break a few eggs when taking a journey down bold paths. I appreciate people who take the approach of, "how can we make that happen", vs those who only look for reasons why it can't.
If we followed your guys' vision we would never leave the house.
Can you please tell me, dumb it down since I am slow, how solar wind will be mined from the moon? I will go make my popcorn now.
Helium-3 ions were discovered in the Moon's upper crust after the Apollo 17 lunar mission brought back soil samples from the Moon. Helium-3 is a non-radioactive hydrogen isotope with one neutron and two protons. Scientists hypothesise that He-3 was carried through space via the Sun’s solar winds but burns up as it reaches the Earth’s atmosphere, thereby making it almost non-existent on Earth. However, helium-3 has accumulated on the Moon’s surface in plenty. Scientists estimate that the Moon is likely to contain roughly 1 million tons of He-3, which translates to a hypothetical 10,000 years worth of energy.
No one is claiming that the guy hasn't been successful in several ventures, but that doesn't mean he shits gold. He's clearly capable of making blunders and has in the past. Everything associated with his purchase of Twitter screams of blunder. The same traits that have made him successful in other ventures are biting him in the ass at Twitter. People idolizing him or thinking he's infallible are as dumb as those saying he's never accomplished anything. There's nothing wrong with criticizing him when he steps on his dick. The defense of "well you couldn't do it" is childish. I couldn't coach a football team but I know when someone is doing a shitty job.
Why does the White House feel the need to monitor Twitter and other social media, and potentially call out what they deem to be misinformation? We already know that so-called misinformation on topics like COVID and Hunter Biden was actually the truth, and it was the government putting out misinformation.
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/decadal/leag/DecadalHelium3.pdf
Pages 4 and 5 if you want to skip the preamble and get to your question.
Maybe we should give him a minute before declaring Twitter as a shitshow, its been all of a month afterall. His biggest blunder to me isn't how he is handling things now, I will give him enough credit that he knows what he is doing, I think he paid way too much BUT his initial offer was also before the fed went nuclear with rate hikes which had since destroyed the SP.
I honestly don't think he should have bought Twitter. I think he is finding it was a way bigger shit sandwich that he was thinking. I do think he will likely turn it around bc he has $44B reasons why. What I don't get is seeing political leaders of one particular party wanting to see him fail. Why would they want an American business to fail? SUSPECT
The same reason administrations in the past have kept up on, and many times pushed back against, more traditional publishers in the past, it suits their messaging agenda. The next administration that doesn't concern itself with these issues will be the first.
They can no longer dictate what gets out with Elon in place. So bc of that they lose some of their Chinese's like control over what info gets out to the public.
Why do you need solar wind to mine Helium-3, which is abundantly found on the surface of the moon? Lots of nations know about Helium-3. It's usability, to date, remains sketchy given the state of fusion reactors on Earth.
How do we set up mining operations to import solar energy from the moon? Seriously. How do we realistically get this done? The only thing on the moon is the equipment we left there half a century ago. That's unusable. We have zero infrastructure there. Zero people there. No way to get that energy back to Earth. I am genuinely curious how this gets done beyond a sci-fi like proposal.
Ask Musk to utilize Thorium first. It's abundant in sea water. On this planet.
How do you transport 1 million tons of anything from the moon? There is no fuel source there, let alone any infrastructure or people to do the refueling.
