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The Elon Musk Twitter shitshow

Why do you need solar wind to mine Helium-3, which is abundantly found on the surface of the moon? Lots of nations know about Helium-3. It's usability, to date, remains sketchy given the state of fusion reactors on Earth.
Helium also has a storage problem.
 
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Sure it will. Just like his promise that his Starship rocket would be doing routine launches by now. Musk is a huckster.

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see."

- Arthur Schopenhauer.

 
The whole point these wizards fail to reconcile is that we cannot even fuse plain ole hydrogen, in a controlled manner, on earth. Unless you detonate it in a thermonuclear bomb. Helium is on orders more challenging to any physicist with 2 functioning neurons.
 
You just use alien aircraft at S4 in area 51, piloted by Joe Rogan protege' Bob Lazar and his element 115 farts.
Apparently. This is some Michael Bay level bullshit in this thread. Might as well claim that we can simply get Optimus Prime to do the whole job.
 
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How do you transport 1 million tons of anything from the moon? There is no fuel source there, let alone any infrastructure or people to do the refueling.

Well there is less gravity and thus less thrust needed. Maybe once they have some H3 they can turn it into the fuel. I really don't know, that is up to the scientist and engineers.

What I do know, it will never happen with your "can't do" attitude.
 
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Why do you need solar wind to mine Helium-3, which is abundantly found on the surface of the moon? Lots of nations know about Helium-3. It's usability, to date, remains sketchy given the state of fusion reactors on Earth.
I presumed the guy with an interest in astronomy knew that Helium-3 is delivered to the Moon as part of the solar wind.

Billions of private dollars are now pouring into helium3 fusion reactor research. I guess you could bet that the issues are never resolved, but that seems foolhardy in light of history to me.
 
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Well there is less gravity and thus less thrust needed. Maybe once they have some H3 they can turn it into the fuel. I really don't know, that is up to the scientist and engineers.

What I do know, it will never happen with your "can't do" attitude.
I'm not a physicist but I've handled more than one isotope in my life. The things some of you are proposing are laughable. Even to the people at CERN.
 
I presumed the guy with an interest in astronomy knew that Helium-3 is delivered to the Moon as part of the solar wind.

Billions of private dollars are now pouring into helium3 fusion reactor research. I guess you could bet that the issues are never resolved, but that seems foolhardy in light of history to me.
Please post when earthlings fuse Hydrogen in a controlled manner first. Your friends, Ed Teller and Robert Oppenheimer.

Then ask yourself wtf we'd need He3 when we could just fuse Hydrogen the live long day. Considering Hydrogen can be removed easily from both the air and water for pennies on the dollar using 1910 tech such as electrolysis. This is pretty f'ing amusing.
 
I'm not a physicist but I've handled more than one isotope in my life. The things some of you are proposing are laughable. Even to the people at CERN.

I am really not proposing anything, reread the previous comments please.
 
I am really not proposing anything, reread the previous comments please.
Oh I'm fine with all the posts. I think people don't understand certain scientific hurdles and then talk through their ass. It's a common thing to do. Thing is if you could fuse Hydrogen, then you don't need He. If you could use thorium, then you don't need fast breeder reactors to generate power.
 
Maybe we should give him a minute before declaring Twitter as a shitshow, its been all of a month afterall. His biggest blunder to me isn't how he is handling things now, I will give him enough credit that he knows what he is doing, I think he paid way too much BUT his initial offer was also before the fed went nuclear with rate hikes which had since destroyed the SP.

I honestly don't think he should have bought Twitter. I think he is finding it was a way bigger shit sandwich that he was thinking. I do think he will likely turn it around bc he has $44B reasons why. What I don't get is seeing political leaders of one particular party wanting to see him fail. Why would they want an American business to fail? SUSPECT
People don’t want him to fail, they want him to stop effing up a tool that was critical to many parts of the world because of his vanity.
If a “particular party” is upset with him it’s likely directly related to the things he’s been saying/doing. One “particular party” celebrates trolling and chaos while the other one is concerned about destroying things for the lolz.
Perhaps this he better question is why both parties aren’t upset. One was certainly railing against social media platforms until musk started upsetting the other. Now they champion something they’ve hated for a decade.
 
Well there is less gravity and thus less thrust needed. Maybe once they have some H3 they can turn it into the fuel. I really don't know, that is up to the scientist and engineers.

What I do know, it will never happen with your "can't do" attitude.
I remember reading a book by Richard Feynman after he was involved in the Manhattan Project. He said a General came up to him and told him that he had an amazing tank idea. The General told Feynman that fuel is costly for tanks. They use a lot of it. It has to be imported into battle. And if they run out of it, the tank is useless. So the General's idea was to put some sort of scoop on the bottom of the tank so that it could suck up dirt to use as fuel. Boom! Unlimited fuel! Feynman said he asked how dirt could be used as fuel. And the General's response was that it was up to the scientists like Feynman to figure that part out.
 
Why is it silly to examine what coordination between the government and Twitter took place to suppress the NYPost’s true news story from being shared?

The Hunter laptop deal really doesn't bother me. There are lots of children that try to profit off their parents name and I think Joe is mostly on the up and up (as much as any politician is expected to be anyway).

What we do need to know is if a political party and its leaders tried to suppress truthful info being put out on various media like platforms in a systemic or coercive sort of way.
 
I remember reading a book by Richard Feynman after he was involved in the Manhattan Project. He said a General came up to him and told him that he had an amazing tank idea. The General told Feynman that fuel is costly for tanks. They use a lot of it. It has to be imported into battle. And if they run out of it, the tank is useless. So the General's idea was to put some sort of scoop on the bottom of the tank so that it could suck up dirt to use as fuel. Boom! Unlimited fuel! Feynman said he asked how dirt could be used as fuel. And the General's response was that it was up to the scientists like Feynman to figure that part out.
Sounds like my colleague Dr. Dumbass. I just surf deals at my local costco when he talks. When he gets done, I tell him I'll get right on it. I've been doing that now for 17 years.
 
Please post when earthlings fuse Hydrogen in a controlled manner first.
Why?
Go back to the link I provided, read pages 3 and 4 and then tell me why we need need to ‘fuse Hydrogen’ when fusion of Helium3 doesn’t have the same problems and waste materials.
 
I remember reading a book by Richard Feynman after he was involved in the Manhattan Project. He said a General came up to him and told him that he had an amazing tank idea. The General told Feynman that fuel is costly for tanks. They use a lot of it. It has to be imported into battle. And if they run out of it, the tank is useless. So the General's idea was to put some sort of scoop on the bottom of the tank so that it could suck up dirt to use as fuel. Boom! Unlimited fuel! Feynman said he asked how dirt could be used as fuel. And the General's response was that it was up to the scientists like Feynman to figure that part out.

Sounds like the scientists failed him and America.
 
Why?
Go back to the link I provided, read pages 3 and 4 and then tell me why we need need to ‘fuse Hydrogen’ when fusion of Helium3 doesn’t have the same problems and waste materials.
Tell me what problems are alleviated? And do tell me, what waste materials would be avoided?

If this were so easy, one would think you could make a teensy weensy amount of He3 on this here planet. Hell, we can even generate Element 115, Bob Lazar fart element, also known as Moscovium for a few milliseconds.
Detail your work flow. Go!
 
People don’t want him to fail, they want him to stop effing up a tool that was critical to many parts of the world because of his vanity.
If a “particular party” is upset with him it’s likely directly related to the things he’s been saying/doing. One “particular party” celebrates trolling and chaos while the other one is concerned about destroying things for the lolz.
Perhaps this he better question is why both parties aren’t upset. One was certainly railing against social media platforms until musk started upsetting the other. Now they champion something they’ve hated for a decade.

It is bc politics is poison for the brain and soul. I think I have pointed that out like 100 times in this thread.
 
Tell me what problems are alleviated? And do tell me, what waste materials would be avoided?
I gave you the link and told you what page.
It’s an open book test for you at this point to answer your own questions.

I’m surprised you didn’t know there were differences between hydrogen based fusion and using just Helium. Read the link and learn something today like Huey did.
 
I gave you the link and told you what page.
It’s an open book test for you at this point to answer your own questions.

I’m surprised you didn’t know there were differences between hydrogen based fusion and using just Helium. Read the link and learn something today like Huey did.
I don't want the link. I am aware of what fusion is, for both elements. I am more interested in what your esteemed mind can deliver (besides your usual Russian ass kissing).

Hint: A peer viewed paper or two might be cool.
 
Read this, assuming you can read.


I'll excerpt it:

The necessary temperature for D-3He fusion is about 4 times higher than that in ITER: about 600 million degrees. At such temperatures, the plasma loses quite a lot of energy by radiation.

For a D-3He reaction, the product of Beta and of the energy confinement time would need to be at least 25 times higher than in a D-T plasma. Such performance have never been achieved in current experiments.

No scheme has been demonstrated at scale yet, and technically it is quite challenging.

Here's another.

 
It is bc politics is poison for the brain and soul. I think I have pointed that out like 100 times in this thread.
It's an interesting position for someone to make while posting partisan talking points.
 
Read this, assuming you can read.


I'll excerpt it:

The necessary temperature for D-3He fusion is about 4 times higher than that in ITER: about 600 million degrees. At such temperatures, the plasma loses quite a lot of energy by radiation.

For a D-3He reaction, the product of Beta and of the energy confinement time would need to be at least 25 times higher than in a D-T plasma. Such performance have never been achieved in current experiments.

No scheme has been demonstrated at scale yet, and technically it is quite challenging.

Here's another.


That sounds really hot, we should definitely do those experiments on the moon and not on earth.
 
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It's an interesting position for someone to make while posting partisan talking points.

Partisan...I mean I have said in this thread that Trump should be arrested and that I like Biden. But please go on with hive mind logic where everyone must think exactly the same.

It is kind of like why I hate Nebraska football. Not bc of the players or coaches but bc of the fans. They are insufferable people.
 
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Partisan...I mean I have said in this thread that Trump should be arrested and that I like Biden. But please go on with hive mind logic where everyone must think exactly the same.

It is kind of like why I hate Nebraska football. Not bc of the players or coaches but bc of the fans. They are insufferable people.
Tell us more about your black friend...
 
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I don't want the link. I am aware of what fusion is, for both elements.
From the link you’re too special to click:

What is “Helium-3 Fusion?”
Many nations have spent many billions of dollars since World War II on developing controlled thermonuclear fusion as a possible source of electrical power. Research efforts have focused almost entirely on fusion of deuterium (D) and tritium (T). The fusion products consist of high-energy neutrons and alpha particles (4He ions) with a total kinetic energy of 17.6 MeV (million electron volts). DT fusion potentially can produce electrical power by extracting the kinetic energy of the neutrons as heat after they have been captured in reactor blankets, and then use that heat to create steam or hot gas to drive turbine generators. This heat cycle limits any future DT fusion plant’s efficiency to around 40% or no more than the best coal and nuclear power plants.
Many practical roadblocks will prevent DT fusion power from being commercialized in the foreseeable future. Research reactors, demonstration plants, and actual power plants require extremely complex and capital intensive engineering approaches in design, manufacturing and construction. Confining and fueling very high temperature plasmas with extremely large, super-conducting magnets and dealing with radioactive tritium fuel constitute just two of the major engineering challenges. Nor do materials exist, nor do they appear possible on the horizon, for the reactor walls and blanket structural materials that must extract heat from the kinetic energy of 14 MeV neutrons and still withstand the destructive power of those neutrons for several years. Removal of damaged reactor walls every few years requires that the plant be shut down and the irradiated wall material be disposed of as large volumes of high-level radioactive waste. The generation of high fluxes of neutrons also creates the potential for the production of weapons-grade plutonium from uranium.
The "second generation" approach to controlled fusion power involves combining deuterium and helium-3. Helium-3 is a light isotope of helium, most of which is helium- 4 (4He). The fusion of D-3He produces a high-energy proton (positively charged hydrogen ion) and an alpha particle (4He ion) for a total kinetic energy of 18.4 MeV. Only a few percent of the energy released by the D-3He fusion reaction involve neutrons via side reactions of D-D. Dealing only with charged particles (vs. neutrons) as fusion fuels and products inherently simplifies engineering design and construction. Electrostatic fields rather than large magnets can control D-3He fusion fuel ions as well as the charged reaction products. At high power levels, some confinement concepts require the stabilization of electron cloud cathodes that will require the use of configurations of relatively small magnets. On the other hand, magnetic confinement could serve D-3He fusion as well and eventually, trade studies will be require to make a final reactor choice.
Fusion protons, as positively charged particles, can be converted directly into electricity. Potential conversion efficiencies of close to seventy percent may be possible. Some side D-D fusion reactions result in minor low energy neutron production (2.45 MeV), minimized by optimizing the amount of excess helium-3 introduced into the reactor. These neutrons will result in a need to dispose of a small amount of low-level radioactive waste, equivalent to hospital radioactive waste, at the end of the power plant’s life of 40-50 years or more.
The "third generation" approach to fusion power fuses helium-3 with itself, producing only protons and alpha particles with total energy of 12.9 MeV, eliminating all neutron producing reactions and also eliminating all radioactive waste at the end of plant life. Nuclear power without nuclear waste therefore becomes the ultimate promise of pure helium-3 fusion.
The fusion of D and 3He has been demonstrated for several years in laboratory electrostatic confinement research reactors at continuously increasing power levels, and the demonstration of significant numbers of 3He-3He reactions in a controlled reaction environment has followed, recently (Kulcinski, et al, 2009).
Helium-3 fusion power promises much lower capital and operating costs than its Twenty-first Century competitors due to greatly reduced materials damage and radioactive waste production, no tritium breeding, higher energy conversion efficiency, smaller size, no radioactive fuel, no air and water pollution, a major reduction in cooling water requirements, and at worst only low level radioactive waste disposal requirements.
 
I have been wondering about this one. Definitely gives off an NCH5 vibe but the account was started in 2008 as opposed to the usual 4 weeks ago.

I don't even recognize your handle and I see you don't have a Moral, are you newer?
 
How do you transport 1 million tons of anything from the moon? There is no fuel source there, let alone any infrastructure or people to do the refueling.
Somebody would need to invent a spaceship that could make the return trip.
A reusable spaceship that could carry 100 tons would be good.
Then build a thousand of them.

Off the top of my head I can think of one guy currently trying to pull that off…
 
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