The Elon Musk Twitter shitshow

[Joes Place]

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

This does zero to eliminate misinformation.

Which is why it is now widespread on that platform.

Who decides what is misinformation?

Where would you say your desire to censor views you don’t like comes from?

I believe it is a nefarious and detestable motivation that informs every totalitarian movement throughout history.

We should seek the truth. Not censor those we disagree with.

 

[Joes Place]

Who decides what is misinformation?

You think Musk and his Twitter team are incapable of identifying OLD PHOTOS being used to pass disinformation, and ban accounts pushing it.

Instead, he PAYS THEM for "web traffic".

 

[Joes Place]

We should seek the truth.

Truth is inconsistent with easily identifiable propaganda.

But the folks with large followings give him web traffic, so he doesn't care.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

You think Musk and his Twitter team are incapable of identifying OLD PHOTOS being used to pass disinformation, and ban accounts pushing it.

Instead, he PAYS THEM for "web traffic".

Why are you under the presumption that banning accounts will make the problem go away? Doing so does not make the problem go away on other platforms, why would you think it would on X? I would reconsider that assumption heavily if I were you.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Truth is inconsistent with easily identifiable propaganda.

But the folks with large followings give him web traffic, so he doesn't care.

Easily identifiable propaganda receives Community Note context corrections or clarifications. Maybe it just doesn’t happen fast enough for your liking? Who cares? Start your own social media platform or overpay for one like Elon did if you wish.

 

[Joes Place]

Easily identifiable propaganda receives Community Note context corrections or clarifications.

Which do NOTHING when the same shit spreads to thousands of accounts.

The PROPER solution is to BAN accounts who continue to post it.
Give them a 3 strikes policy. Spread disinformation. You are GONE.

 

[Joes Place]

Why are you under the presumption that banning accounts will make the problem go away?

Because the people doing it won't be on the platform anymore.
And won't be getting checks for it
Easy Peasy.

 

[Joes Place]

Tesla superfans are complaining about its $150 CyberBeer — calling it 'hot garbage' and posting pictures of rusty bottle caps

Some Tesla superfans aren't thrilled with the company's latest merch, CyberBeer. They're calling it out on social media.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Which do NOTHING when the same shit spreads to thousands of accounts.

Have any evidence? I am skeptical when hysterical people use hyperbole.

 

[Joes Place]

Have any evidence? I am skeptical when hysterical people use hyperbole.

It's posted for you throughout this thread.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

The PROPER solution is to BAN accounts who continue to post it.
Give them a 3 strikes policy. Spread disinformation. You are GONE.

Won’t these bad actors just create new accounts to do the same thing? This will not solve the problem, obviously.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

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Tesla superfans are complaining about its $150 CyberBeer — calling it 'hot garbage' and posting pictures of rusty bottle caps

Some Tesla superfans aren't thrilled with the company's latest merch, CyberBeer. They're calling it out on social media.

www.businessinsider.com

Products go bad. Shipping and handling, heat and cold. News at 9. They should ask for a refund or replacement.

 

[Joes Place]

Won’t these bad actors just create new accounts to do the same thing?

Not if you quit paying them.
And put the safeguards back in place before Musk fired all the people who tracked and monitored them.

 

[Joes Place]

Products go bad. Shipping and handling, heat and cold. News at 9. They should ask for a refund or replacement.

"Hey Elon - this stuff tastes like ass. Can you give me two more bottles?"

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Not if you quit paying them.
And put the safeguards back in place before Musk fired all the people who tracked and monitored them.

So you want the censorship regime re-installed? This is anti-American and I do not agree with such policies.

It is now a private company. They can do as they like. Isn’t that what we were all told by liberals when the former management was censoring ideas and discussions they didn’t like? Now it no longer applies?

 

[JupiterHawk]

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[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Every now and then it's worth reminding yourself Joes Place is a Chinese shill.

 

[Joes Place]

So you want the censorship regime re-installed?

Do major advertisers want this shit posted next to their ads?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Just to clarify:

Just to clarify:

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

What’s interesting to me is his clear opposition to racism is being contorted to anti-semitism. Such is the world we live in.

 

[Joes Place]

It'd require maybe 5 lines of code to ID every one of these bots and dump the accounts.
And require additional levels for new account verification from the servers they work off of....

 

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[95Hawk]

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I don’t know. The ad makes me want to buy an IBM super computer. It’s Big Blue’s loss, I guess.

 

[SocraticIshmael]

So you want the censorship regime re-installed? This is anti-American and I do not agree with such policies.

It is now a private company. They can do as they like. Isn’t that what we were all told by liberals when the former management was censoring ideas and discussions they didn’t like? Now it no longer applies?

"The censorship regime." You really are brainwashed. Keep at it, little parrot, I'm sure the rich antisemite loves and cares about you...

 

[WDSMHAWK]

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[lucas80]

Who decides what is misinformation?

Where would you say your desire to censor views you don’t like comes from?

I believe it is a nefarious and detestable motivation that informs every totalitarian movement throughout history.

We should seek the truth. Not censor those we disagree with.

Why does Musk censor so many people, then?

 

[GOHOX69]

You would literally fellate Elon, @Phenomenally Frantastic . It's funny to see.

 

[Scruddy]

Pretty good summation of most of the lefties on this forum tbh

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Do major advertisers want this shit posted next to their ads?

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It’s a bloodbath. Apple alone was 4 percent of Twitter’s revenue. But Elon can’t stop liking and boosting Nazi propaganda.

 

[pjhawk]

Who decides what is misinformation?

Where would you say your desire to censor views you don’t like comes from?

I believe it is a nefarious and detestable motivation that informs every totalitarian movement throughout history.

We should seek the truth. Not censor those we disagree with.

Oh sure, going after media organizations civilly and criminally is not totalitarian or fascist at all. Using and threatening to use the power of the state to try to silence anyone that says or exposes anything negative about you.

Completely full of shit. All projection all the time. You've gone the full fash Phenom, followed your cult leader into the void. Up is down, night is day.

 

[seminole97]

"The censorship regime." You really are brainwashed.

You’re demonstrating ignorance of the reporting on what the CIS was up to.

Look at the reporting from Lee Fang or Michael Schellenberger about the CIS.

 

[seminole97]

It’s a bloodbath. Apple alone was 4 percent of Twitter’s revenue. But Elon can’t stop liking and boosting Nazi propaganda.

The thing is Media Matters concocted this stuff to deliberately harm X.

Problem they have is everything digital is easily tracked, so it’s trivial to show how they manipulated things to frame their fake news:

The suit claims:

Media Matters has opted for new tactics in its campaign to drive advertisers from X. Media Matters has manipulated the algorithms governing the user experience on X to bypass safeguards and create images of X’s largest advertisers’ paid posts adjacent to racist, incendiary content, leaving the false impression that these pairings are anything but what they actually are: manufactured, inorganic, and extraordinarily rare.
Media Matters executed this plot in multiple steps, as X’s internal investigations have revealed.
First, Media Matters accessed accounts that had been active for at least 30 days, bypassing X’s ad filter for new users. Media Matters then exclusively followed a small subset of users consisting entirely of accounts in one of two categories: those known to produce extreme, fringe content, and accounts owned by X’s big-name advertisers. The end result was a feed precision-designed by Media Matters for a single purpose: to produce side-by-side ad/content placements that it could screenshot in an effort to alienate advertisers.
But this activity still was not enough to create the pairings of advertisements and content that Media Matters aimed to produce.
Media Matters therefore resorted to endlessly scrolling and refreshing its unrepresentative, hand-selected feed, generating between 13 and 15 times more advertisements per hour than viewed by the average X user repeating this inauthentic activity until it finally received pages containing the result it wanted: controversial content next to X’s largest advertisers’ paid posts.
Media Matters omitted mentioning any of this in a report published on November 16, 2023 that displayed instances Media Matters “found” on X of advertisers’ paid posts featured next to Neo-Nazi and white-nationalist content. Nor did Media Matters otherwise provide any context regarding the forced, inauthentic nature and extraordinary rarity of these pairings.
However, relying on the specious narrative propagated by Media Matters, the advertisers targeted took these pairings to be anything but rare and inorganic, with all but one of the companies featured in the Media Matters piece withdrawing all ads from X, including Apple, Comcast, NBCUniversal, and IBM—some of X’s largest advertisers. Indeed, in pulling all advertising from X in response to this intentionally deceptive report, IBM called the pairings an “entirely unacceptable situation.” Only Oracle did not withdraw its ads.
The truth bore no resemblance to Media Matters’ narrative. In fact, IBM’s, Comcast’s, and Oracle’s paid posts appeared alongside the fringe content cited by Media Matters for only one viewer (out of more than 500 million) on all of X: Media Matters. Not a single authentic user of the X platform saw IBM ’s, Comcast’s, or Oracle’s ads next to that content, which Media Matters achieved only through its manipulation of X’s algorithms as described above. And in Apple’s case, only two out of more than 500 million active users saw its ad appear alongside the fringe content cited in the article—at least one of which was Media Matters.
Media Matters could have produced a fair, accurate account of users’ interactions with advertisements on X via basic reporting: following real users, documenting the actual, organic production of content and advertisement pairings. Had it done so, however, it would not have produced the outcome Media Matters so desperately desired, which was to tarnish X’s reputation by associating it with racist content. So instead, Media Matters chose to maliciously misrepresent the X experience with the intention of harming X and its business.

 

[HROT]

So the argument is they refreshed too much? Lol

 

[WDSMHAWK]

One of Elon's besties is taking a break from directing bomb threats to schools and hospitals.