Tom Brands addresses the rumors: Kemerer at 174 is far from done deal; Here is a PROJECTED LINEUP
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Ok. Got it. He meant, "Coach Brands doesn't care at what weight wrestlers compete".
And.....you're saying I stretched that into, "Coach Brands doesn't care". With no qualifier of what he may or may not care about. I think you're too hard on your kids, LOL.... For the record, I think Coach Brands cares about every bit of all of Iowa Wrestling (yes, even the weights at which wrestlers compete).
Serious question: Do you agree with him that, "Coach Brands doesn't care"? (in the context of weights wrestlers compete).
Those were recruiting mistakes. This issue regards getting the best pieces currently on the roster to go the right weight for the team. Brands has shown he is willing to move the most talented guys around the roster to get them in the lineup. No reason to be concerned that guys as talented as Kemerer and Marinelli are going to be wrestling off for 165. Fringe guys have done this in the past, but not proven studs. I agree that we need to be better prepared when we recruit prospects in the future, so we don't have to count on a Desanto falling into our laps to fill a gaping hole.
Don't agree with this. The problem has not been the distribution of talent, but rather a lack of talent (relatively) compared to PSU. We gush over getting a single top 20 recruit while Cael picks up 5.
This...what they see is lack of planning I see as holes. Limiting factors vs coaching shortfall.
Also, it makes me laugh to think that some don't believe a bunch of wrestling guys (the coaches) do not sit in the office and kick around their best lineup obsessively...like we do on here. So much to do with coaching and managing. Most bosses that hire folks will give the official line that the job is open for qualified folks to compete...may the best person win. However, most have a good idea of who that person is going to be...they just can't say it out loud to the folks in their workplace...it shows favoritism and hurts morale.
The off season is for sure in full throttle with some of the material this thread generated.
Well, saying there is a significant difference between Iowa Wrestling and Iowa Basketball, is an understatement. ; )My team making the NCAA tournament last year was a "done deal," too. Just saying.
Those of us in the Inner Circle know exactly what is happening. The rest of you . . . Well, carry on and continue arguing (or join the Inner Cicle).
Lot of folks on here demanding entitlement..
What you are entitled to is the right to bitch and moan at Brands, Ferentz, Fran, et alia on a message board.
What you are not entitled to is access to every thought, option, and strategy in that coach's head.
What you are entitled to is the right to bitch and moan at Brands, Ferentz, Fran, et alia on a message board.
What you are not entitled to is access to every thought, option, and strategy in that coach's head.
From the article, there is a lot of speculation:
Iowa already has a couple of options lining up at 157 pounds.
Talented sophomore Kaleb Young, who lost a wrestle-off with Gunther at 174 earlier this winter, could make the cut — he finished third in the under-23 World Team Trials at 74 kilograms (the equivalent of 163 pounds). He has plenty of time to make it down to 157, where junior Jeren Glosser also has "great scoring ability," Brands said.
Brands has Drexel transfer Austin DeSanto coming in at 133 pounds; Max Murin (at 141), Pat Lugo (at 149) and Jacob Warner (at 197) coming out of redshirt; and two-time 197-pound NCAA qualifier Cash Wilcke probably cutting to 184.
It’s possible that, despite losing just one senior in Brandon Sorenson, seven Iowa weight classes in 2018-19 will have different starters than in March — with only NCAA champ Spencer Lee at 125 pounds, Marinelli at 165 and Sam Stoll at heavyweight staying put.
So the HawkCentral Iowa line up is this:
125 Lee
133 DeSanto
141 Murin
149 Lugo
157 Young
165 Marinelli
174 KemDog
184 Wilke
197 Warner
HWT Stoll
The article talks like Nolf is a tougher out than Mark Hall. Hall is my number one ranked college wrestler,with Spencer Lee 2,Nolf 3, and Nickel 4.
I would love for some of these guys to win dinner with Tom. What about you Art, you down to come to IC if you win (assuming you are Inner Circle)? I would wash dishes at the Brands to see this conversation.
Zahid would disagree. Nolf has only ever lost to IMar...he would be my #1 this year.
Some of you need to learn to read between the lines. Brands shared some good info. Gunther transfers out, Young is wrestling down this summer, Kemerer isn’t making 157 and Marinelli is staying at his ideal weight of 165. Figure it out.
any letting it play out or seeing where the chips fall, could it be possible that Kem goes 65 - the bull goes
Can you give me a few more dots to connect. All this math is giving me a headache.Some of you need to learn to read between the lines. Brands shared some good info. Gunther transfers out, Young is wrestling down this summer, Kemerer isn’t making 157 and Marinelli is staying at his ideal weight of 165. Figure it out.
Some of you need to learn to read between the lines. Brands shared some good info. Gunther transfers out, Young is wrestling down this summer, Kemerer isn’t making 157 and Marinelli is staying at his ideal weight of 165. Figure it out.
So, in conclusion, the HawkCentral projected Iowa line up is this:
125 Lee
133 DeSanto
141 Murin
149 Lugo
157 Young
165 Marinelli
174 KemDog
184 Wilke
197 Warner
HWT Stoll
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You guys are way off base here and the tides are turning. We have two of the best recruits in the nation recently in Spencer and Warner. You guys sound like Psu fans and you need to settle down and appreciate what’s happening.I think it's both. We actually gush over top 100 recruits
Psu is having great success IOWA is right there with them with a whole lot less resources it’s june the team is shaping up it took some time to right the ship the old days of Iowa’s domination every year are far gone and almost impossible to repeat. If we are consistently in the top 3 and competing for a championship this year and next you should be very very happy considering the level of talent that is at the other top 3 schools. There is nobody in the country that could do a better job than TNT at Iowa for the seeable future.
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This is very funny I have news for you Hall is not even in the top 5 and he is not even the best at his weight. Hall will not beat Zahid again so he had better hope Z goes up. Hall based on last year is the 5th best on his team and this year I would probably put him in about the same spot. I like Kem Dawg at 74 against Hall a whole lot better then a sucked out Kem against Nolf you will see.
Oh and Spencer and Nolf are on another planet so don’t compare..
Wow Kem looks thick he is our 174 not doubt in my mind after seeing him in this pic this is awesome he is going to tear it up. I knew he looked really sucked out at the end last year and that’s exactly why he was not himself in half of his matches makes perfect sense I’m pumped. The Dawg gonna eat
I believe a collective fanbase is entitled to know that their highly compensated Head Coach has his shit together.
When he does, you get Dan Gable. When he doesnt, you get Frank Lickliter.
Would guess Strimatter walks 150-160? Kem looks much taller much thicker than him so 180+ is about right. 174 it is, I’m booking it.
Go back and watch Hall wrestle Amine he was 1 point from losing twice and you tell me I’m wrong he is very beatable.
This lineup is as solid a lineup as the Hawks have had in some time. Not what we want, while it certainly looks good enough to move up to 2nd place in March, I don’t think it’s quite good enough to overtake PSU. Ah,but the season after that..........
The best college wrestler didn't win a title and lost not just once but twice to the national champ at his weight.
I will have what you're having.
This makes no sense, signed some guy named Valencia.
Amine is a hammer and in the same tier as ZV and Hall. I see Kem as a solid 3rd, 4th at 74 just because Amine losses focus in a match or two.
This is BS by Tom. He should lay out his five year plan along with a week by week update on how the guys are growing. Why is it so hard to figure how college wrestler will fill out or max out? He should have had this lineup set at the end of last year. Everyone thickens and fills out at the same rate. We just need a coach that can see the future and tell us how wrestle offs will go.
Maybe Tom didn't want to say 74 because he might grow to 84
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