Right, the thing that people are using to kill everyone isn't the issue. The thing that all the other countries figured out how to manage and don't have this problem with isn't the issue. It's TV or rock music, or brown people or the wrong god....anything but actual thing that's being used to kill all the people.
I just finished watching it again and you are right there is a teacher present and yelling. There is also a display on the board from an overhead. I'm surprised there were so few students in the classroom at the time, that's what led me to believe the room should have been unoccupied. Another thing I find unusual is there are no other students in the classroom yelling or making comments on the fight.
On Twitter earlier I read the student that was doing the beating up was the one the pulled the gun. Not sure if that's correct or not.
Those overgrown boys you refer to aren't the ones causing or doing the killing so once again you want to infringe on everyone's rights because of a few parents failure to instill correct judgement mentality in their offspring.
You're telling me that nothing can ever change. I reject that because I refuse to give in to the gun lobby. Children's lives depend on people refusing to give up.
Blame it on the "thing" not the person. Top notch responsibility.
Brilliant argument. We should make flamethrowers and grenade launchers legal too - after all they're not inherently bad, it's only bad people who would misuse them we have to worry about. What about all the good people that would use them wisely?
Your argument is akin to
Right, that's why this is a uniquely american problem. We just don't' respect life but every other 1st world country does. Brilliant.
How about just mass shootings? Can you spot the outlier in this one? Is it the same? Show your work.Which one is the outlier. I'll give you two guesses.
Ah...so americans are just broken. That's your answer. It's not that we have different laws that allow any and every jackwad to have access to whatever killing machine they want...it's that we're different from everyone else in the world. Step across our northern border...suddenly people are different.... Travel to any first world country...none of them are broken. Just us and random third world countries that also lack gun laws....
Like I said, I don’t know the solution. But, if you’ve read my posts, and think I’m saying “nothing will ever change”, that’s on you.
And until people like you realize that limiting access is a necessary part of the solution there will never be any real change. We'll never convince the hard-liners, but the folks on the edges need to give up the idea that we can't make hard decisions if we want to make real change. You and others like you have to decide how long things go on as they are before you outgrow the traditions you were raised with.
I think Whiskey has a good point. Our culture glorifies violence via video games, movies, music, etc. I have no idea how rampant and glorified violence is in other countries, but I do think it’s pretty grotesque in America. Culture definitely has a role to play in American gun violence.
You’ve convinced me. I blame Clint Eastwood then. What an asshole!
I've traveled extensively throughout the world and I can tell you with 100% certainly a cultural issue with lack of respect of life exists here in the United States. Society here in the U.S. is nothing like it was even as recently as 50 years ago. As stated by some posters earlier today you could purchase a gun at almost any department or hardware store as recently as 25 years ago. You could purchase and own a machine gun up to the 1930's and despite that we didn't have the shootings we have today. As a society we value life very little in todays U.S.
So it's not the hundreds of millions of guns everywhere, americans are just broken. It's a fascinating take. I thought people thought we were better than everyone else, but once you threaten our guns suddenly we have people saying that we're worse people than every other first world country.
Limiting access and removing existing guns in circulation are two entirely different things.
We elect people who aren’t beholden to the NRA and their insane interpretation of the 2A.
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Or …..Annnnnnddd…it’s gone.
Like a fart in the wind.
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I basically agree with you but IMO the cat has been out of the bag for quite some time.
I'll take that one step further. After watching 100+ nights of anarchy last year in some great liberal utopia there is ZERO ****ing chance the government is going to de-arm legal gun owning citizens.
Every journey begins with a single step. We need to start with stopping the flood of new weapons onto the street. Then we can work on removing the existing ones.
All other countries haven't figured it out.
