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UPDATED: Active shooter in Texas school. Multiple people shot.

You probably broke the law by not reporting the sale.
Possibly...wouldn't be me, though, it would be my MIL (who sold the guns to her grandson). The other 4 (as mentioned) were gifted to me.

However,


Sec. 46.06. UNLAWFUL TRANSFER OF CERTAIN WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) sells, rents, leases, loans, or gives a handgun to any person knowing that the person to whom the handgun is to be delivered intends to use it unlawfully or in the commission of an unlawful act;
(2) intentionally or knowingly sells, rents, leases, or gives or offers to sell, rent, lease, or give to any child younger than 18 years of age any firearm, club, or location-restricted knife;
(3) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly sells a firearm or ammunition for a firearm to any person who is intoxicated;
(4) knowingly sells a firearm or ammunition for a firearm to any person who has been convicted of a felony before the fifth anniversary of the later of the following dates:
(A) the person's release from confinement following conviction of the felony; or
(B) the person's release from supervision under community supervision, parole, or mandatory supervision following conviction of the felony;
(5) sells, rents, leases, loans, or gives a handgun to any person knowing that an active protective order is directed to the person to whom the handgun is to be delivered;
(6) knowingly purchases, rents, leases, or receives as a loan or gift from another a handgun while an active protective order is directed to the actor; or
(7) while prohibited from possessing a firearm under state or federal law, knowingly makes a material false statement on a form that is:
(A) required by state or federal law for the purchase, sale, or other transfer of a firearm; and
(B) submitted to a licensed firearms dealer, as defined by 18 U.S.C. Section 923.
(b) In this section:
(1) "Intoxicated" means substantial impairment of mental or physical capacity resulting from introduction of any substance into the body.
(2) "Active protective order" means a protective order issued under Title 4, Family Code, that is in effect. The term does not include a temporary protective order issued before the court holds a hearing on the matter.
(c) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(2) that the transfer was to a minor whose parent or the person having legal custody of the minor had given written permission for the sale or, if the transfer was other than a sale, the parent or person having legal custody had given effective consent.
 
If there is no possible way that someone else could have done it then off with their heads. If there is a chance the witness is mistaken, no death penalty. "I am 100% sure this is the person who put the gun in my face and assaulted me.", death penalty. DNA proves without a shadow of a doubt, death penalty. Easier said than done, I know. We have a whole lot of sick asses in prison who are 100% guilty, no way they didn't murder the person, who should no longer be on this planet...but that's just me.
Tom....I don't think there is any way to create a man made system that ensures what you propose.

I totally agree that some folks DESERVE to die. I just don't think government should be executing people because it never can be 100 percent perfect and when you're talking putting people to death..... that has to be the bar IMO. Can never be ensured....hence I'm anti-death penalty.
 
To me it looked like a classroom that was supposed to be unoccupied. I think the lights were off. My guess is that a few students gathered there unsupervised to settle some sort of dispute and the result was mayhem.
Teacher probably turned the lights out when the fight started. Remember in grade school how when the teacher turned out the lights we were all supposed to get quiet? :cool:

Shocked that didn't work in this case, though.
 
Tom....I don't think there is any way to create a man made system that ensures what you propose.

I totally agree that some folks DESERVE to die. I just don't think government should be executing people because it never can be 100 percent perfect and when you're talking putting people to death..... that has to be the bar IMO. Can never be ensured....hence I'm anti-death penalty.
Death penalty is probably the thing where I am furthest to the right on any topic.
 
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To me it looked like a classroom that was supposed to be unoccupied. I think the lights were off. My guess is that a few students gathered there unsupervised to settle some sort of dispute and the result was mayhem.

You are absolutely off-base here. Towards the end you can see that the lights are off because the teacher had the projector on. You can also hear the teacher screaming on a phone or some sort of messaging system that she needs help. In many schools these days teachers are instructed not to intervene.
 
Already sold the others for $1200 (no documentation there either). As for the ones mentioned? Heck no. Looking forward to popp'n a few off from that .25. It was a vest gun that officers often carried.

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Dang near bought one....back when they were affordable. Ended up buying a couple (then new) Beretta 950. In my former life they would fit perfect in my spare handcuff case.
 
That's fine and I was pro death penalty....just had a change of heart on the subject.
Don't get me wrong, I am actually further away from it than I was because of corrupt people railroading innocent people. Which is why my thinking is that it has to be no possible way another person committed the crime. You're on camera. Multiple witnesses. Etc. I know I am in the minority on this one. Yet minority rules in America so you never know!
 
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I scanned back through the thread, MAGA and Trump were only mentioned by two posters. There are comments about T&Ps and second amendment rights, but those have been true for the GOP long before MAGA ever existed. Regardless of this situation being different than most of the past school shootings, I think the one thing we should all agree on is it is unacceptable for our children to not be safe at school. School shootings have gone from a rare occasion to no big deal and that is a sad reality for our country. We should all want it changed.
ok agreed it is unacceptable for kids to feel unsafe at school. But let’s look at this differently, the first major school shooting was Columbine in 1999, 22 years ago. Just looked it up, in 2000 there were 39% of households in the US that owned at least 1 firearm and as of 2020 it was at 42%. Over 20 years it’s increased 3%.
So maybe we should look at some other factors as to why these shootings keep happening. Guns have been around and easily accessible for a long time, so why, in the last 20 years, has this started happening so frequently?
 
ok agreed it is unacceptable for kids to feel unsafe at school. But let’s look at this differently, the first major school shooting was Columbine in 1999, 22 years ago. Just looked it up, in 2000 there were 39% of households in the US that owned at least 1 firearm and as of 2020 it was at 42%. Over 20 years it’s increased 3%.
So maybe we should look at some other factors as to why these shootings keep happening. Guns have been around and easily accessible for a long time, so why, in the last 20 years, has this started happening so frequently?
Maybe it's less about how many households and more about how many guns.
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There are already laws against what the shooter did. There may be other laws he broke as well
 
I already gave you an example of a thug.

One example is not a definition. Perhaps I could extrapolate one if you give me several other examples, but one person has a lot of traits and attributes… It’s hard to know which ones made him the thug.

Is it someone who has committed a crime?
 
One example is not a definition. Perhaps I could extrapolate one if you give me several other examples, but one person has a lot of traits and attributes… It’s hard to know which ones made him the thug.

Is it someone who has committed a crime?
You should stick to "attempting" to raise kids correctly.
 
Because the number of guns we have in this country is insane, and we keep adding more each year.
I said we should all agree, collecting them back won't happen. If you still disagree, explain what scenario you see where that happens
 
Maybe it's less about how many households and more about how many guns.
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Why does it matter how many guns someone owns? It takes 1 gun to kill someone. If only 3% more households in the last 20 yrs own guns, what difference does it make if they own 1 or 10? There is a root cause to this issue and it isn’t the gun
 
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I’m mildly surprised the Texas high school didn’t have the alphabet up on the walls.
And...here we have a poster showing very silly provincialism. My kids went to blue ribbon schools and their high school was the National Academic Decathlon Champion two years in a row.
Some schools in Texas aren’t doing well but isn’t that true of every state?
 
ok agreed it is unacceptable for kids to feel unsafe at school. But let’s look at this differently, the first major school shooting was Columbine in 1999, 22 years ago. Just looked it up, in 2000 there were 39% of households in the US that owned at least 1 firearm and as of 2020 it was at 42%. Over 20 years it’s increased 3%.
So maybe we should look at some other factors as to why these shootings keep happening. Guns have been around and easily accessible for a long time, so why, in the last 20 years, has this started happening so frequently?

Why does it matter how many guns someone owns? It takes 1 gun to kill someone. If only 3% more households in the last 20 yrs own guns, what difference does it make if they own 1 or 10? There is a root cause to this issue and it isn’t the gun
But you also have to look at the number of households as well, simple % can be misleading, especially since the population has increased by what, 75 million in the last 20 years or so? So 3% makes it only sound like a small increase, but is actually still quite a lot. It’s also concerning to me for households with multiple guns, as to me it seems like it would be easier to somehow lose track of some of them if they aren’t properly secured. There are more guns than people in the US. That’s a problem. As others have posted in this thread, it’s all too easy for guns to change ownership without having some means of tracking that. That’s another problem. It’s all too easy to modify guns to fire more and more rapidly, or conceal them under your clothes. Another problem for me. in many states, a permit is no longer needed to conceal carry. I also see that as a problem.
 
And...here we have a poster showing very silly provincialism. My kids went to blue ribbon schools and their high school was the National Academic Decathlon Champion two years in a row.
Some schools in Texas aren’t doing well but isn’t that true of every state?
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But you also have to look at the number of households as well, simple % can be misleading, especially since the population has increased by what, 75 million in the last 20 years or so? So 3% makes it only sound like a small increase, but is actually still quite a lot. It’s also concerning to me for households with multiple guns, as to me it seems like it would be easier to somehow lose track of some of them if they aren’t properly secured. There are more guns than people in the US. That’s a problem. As others have posted in this thread, it’s all too easy for guns to change ownership without having some means of tracking that. That’s another problem. It’s all too easy to modify guns to fire more and more rapidly, or conceal them under your clothes. Another problem for me. in many states, a permit is no longer needed to conceal carry. I also see that as a problem.
All that is fine and good. You’re off topic on most of that tho. Why in the past 20 years have school shootings increased when the % of households owning guns hasn’t increased a whole lot? I get that the population has increased and that equals more guns, but that was the case from the 70’s-2000 as well.

And if someone owns multiple guns, chances are they’ve paid a pretty fair amount of $ for them and are going to know exactly where they are and keep them clean and safe from other people potentially damaging them. At least that’s the case in my experience
 
I’m not reading through all this bullshit. Just wondering about the actual shooting. Did the kid have a gun at school? Was he the one who got beat up and retaliated?

I’d imagine he got beat up and decided to smoke their ass like a little bitch that he is.
 
You are absolutely off-base here. Towards the end you can see that the lights are off because the teacher had the projector on. You can also hear the teacher screaming on a phone or some sort of messaging system that she needs help. In many schools these days teachers are instructed not to intervene.
I didn't listen to the audio so I would have missed the teacher yelling. I'll watch again later because I didn't see the overhead. As far as the teacher intervening I'm well aware of the limits on teachers using physical force to stop inappropriate behavior.
 
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ok agreed it is unacceptable for kids to feel unsafe at school. But let’s look at this differently, the first major school shooting was Columbine in 1999, 22 years ago. Just looked it up, in 2000 there were 39% of households in the US that owned at least 1 firearm and as of 2020 it was at 42%. Over 20 years it’s increased 3%.
So maybe we should look at some other factors as to why these shootings keep happening. Guns have been around and easily accessible for a long time, so why, in the last 20 years, has this started happening so frequently?
All options should be on the table to change this trend. We need to have a group of professionals with no political ties come up with some ideas to solve this problem besides arming teachers and doing active shooter drills.
 
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I said we should all agree, collecting them back won't happen. If you still disagree, explain what scenario you see where that happens
The scenario is one day enough of our children die needlessly that we wake up and decide that children are more important than toys for overgrown boys. When that day comes we'll join the rest of the world in limiting the number of weapons in the country. We dump about a million new guns a month into the public. A month. Why? Are we expecting an invasion? that requires every man woman and child to repel? No, it's just so that overgrown boys can play pew pew and feel manly.
One day rational minds will win out. Or not and we'll become a giant Somalia.
 
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