What would you do if your child came out as transgender?
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Better response than my "Shut up prick."
I need to work on my troll anger management skills.
Well, see, if I can get you to come out of hibernation to make a rare reply to one of my non-gambling posts, then I must actually be doing something right..............so no, I don't think I will stick to the Degen Thread.
Its not my fault you were triggered by something I said regarding a political take you disagree with.
I also don't hide my intentions for gambling. I bet on teams so they'll lose.
I'm glad it entertains you, because that's why I do it. It's personal for me.
Btw, we should compare bets sometime. Surely someone who is on record having said the following:
"I just don't like people who run their mouths but then don't hold their end up in the long run. Don't make the bet if you're not willing to pay up if you lose."
....would have no problem sharing their pregame bets.
Not that I went back through over 20 pages of the Degen thread to find a post of yours that wasn't merely a reaction, since you felt compelled to offer up your totally non-hypocritical criticism.................or anything.
Nice try though.
He sounds striking. Probably make a beautiful bride at that.
"I just don't like people who run their mouths but then don't hold their end up in the long run. Don't make the bet if you're not willing to pay up if you lose."
....would have no problem sharing their pregame bets.
This was a bet Bro D lost years ago and didn't leave the board like he said he would. Nothing to do with the Degen thread, idiot.
Is it any wonder that suicide rates are higher for LGBTQ kids with you as a dad?
In general I skim past your posts because you aren't a serious poster. I haven't fully figured out your angle with your repetitive questions and inability to think critically. The data is there, and has been provided in this thread and others. What would it mean to you if I posted numbers that showed this to be true?
My kids are just fine, sorry about yours.
Suicides for trans kids are high because they are mentally ill and not getting help. By the way 3 kids, 5 grandkids all straight and normal and happy.
Why shouldn't private or publicly funded insurance mechanisms be used for treatments found necessary by a doctor. I am positive I have asked you this, but as a chiropractor why do you ignore medical science? I've seen you defend your profession here over the years from posters who have said what you do is a scam. What other health care treatments don't make the cut for you?
Suicide rates for LGBTQ kids are higher due to societal and familial rejection. They are higher because there are politicians who seek personal gain by marginalizing and demonizing the LGBTQ community. The rates are higher because blowhards can't keep their noses out of other people's lives. You are the encapsulation in this thread of why a young kid would hide their identity and suffer for it.
I am trying to think critically on this issue.
I don't see any data that proves your claim. I'd be interested to see what you have.
Please provide it.
Any cosmetic procedures. Do they improve life, yes, but they aren’t medically necessary as deemed by Medicare or other payers. I’m going to drop insurance in the next couple of years as a provider as well.
I don't have any kids. But, if I did, the primary concerns for my child would be their safety, health, opportunities and future. Straight, gay, trans...I wouldn't give a damn about that stuff at face value. I'm not trying to present my hypothetical parental situation as purely happy though. There are real challenges that could emerge in my child's life that I'm not sure I'd know how to best approach. What if my trans child wanted to compete in sports against the biologically opposite gender, which is something I don't believe in. What's the best route to take as a parent in that situation? What if my trans child wanted to use the restrooms and/or locker rooms of the opposite bio? Again, something I don't agree with. These are difficult questions that I'm glad I won't ever have to deal with. Interesting thread.
What are suicide rates for LGBTQ kids in very blue states like California and New York?
Suicide attempts are 18% lower when states clearly include sexual orientation and gender identity in antibullying laws. States with more gay/straight alliances have lower rates of physical harm and suicide.
State Laws Set the Tone for Safety and Risk of Suicide Among LGBTQ Youth - Research Horizons
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Suicide attempts are 18% lower when states clearly include sexual orientation and gender identity in antibullying laws. States with more gay/straight alliances have lower rates of physical harm and suicide.
State Laws Set the Tone for Safety and Risk of Suicide Among LGBTQ Youth - Research Horizons
Thanks for that.
How does the 18% reduction compare to non-LGBTQ kids?
I googled your last question and shared the result. You could do the same.
Here you go:
- LGBTQ+ young people are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
Thanks.
I knew they were quadruple. @lucas80 stated it's because LGBTQ kids commit suicide more due to societal and familial rejection.
We know there are large parts of America where they are indeed accepted so I'm curious if his statement can be proven.
I think it's probably impossible to prove.
What other reasons do you think would lead to much higher rates of LGBTQ suicide?
Just let people be and mind your own business. Who gives a shit about transgender. It's like immigration. What affect does it have on anyone's life?
If Stupid TV wasn't running it an on a reel, or talk radio blaring it 24/7, 70% of the country wouldn't even be aware of it.
Spoiler alert: fentanyl arrives in the U.S. via commercial shipments.
Atheism, really? Why would someone kill themselves because they are atheists? Christians are the ones that claim there is a better life on the other side.
Atheists have significantly higher rates of suicide, depression and anxiety compared to theists.
LGBTQ tend to lean towards atheism.
That’s a two-way street. Don’t make your business our business. Go find your little corner of the world where you belong and live your best life.
I bet LGBTQ members that grew up in very religious households that think being gay is a sin are more likely to be depressed and self harm. Your statements are not specifically about the LGBTQ community.
I don't disagree, but ignoring it isn't going to make it go away. It's running on ads all day long in election commercials because the right wing thinks it's a winning issue. You have legislation happening that changes the options available to trans people today.
You've also got assholes on this website who constantly bring up this topic in an effort to bash the community because they're ideologues and that's what they do. Just like they do on the abortion issue, right wingers want to be involved in everyone else's shit because they want everyone to conform to what they want them to be or stay in the shadows. They're hypocrites who don't care about these people who they see as freaks who are unworthy of their respect.
People of good conscience on the other hand can have discussions on the merits of one medical/social approach vs another. As long as the underlying goal from everyone involved is the health and happiness of the people involved then progress can be made. IMO, anyone making blanket one size fits all statements regarding the best approach to supporting the trans community is probably exceeding the limits of the science around this topic and by extension demonstrating their lack of knowledge and willingness to allow ideological considerations to dictate their opinions.
Here's an example:
Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24, and LGBTQ+ youth are at significantly increased risk. The Utah suicide rate is consistently higher than the national rate. Transgender and nonbinary youth were 2 to 2.5 times as likely to experience depressive symptoms, seriously consider suicide, and attempt suicide compared to their cisgender LGBQ peers.
I wonder what is different about Utah?
I don't know if this is true, but if so maybe LGBTQ people have leaned towards atheism because organized religion with few exceptions has demonized them. If that is the case then that they incurred these higher rates of illness and suicides as a result, then those religions should absolutely be ashamed.
Magic underwear perhaps?Here's an example:
Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24, and LGBTQ+ youth are at significantly increased risk. The Utah suicide rate is consistently higher than the national rate. Transgender and nonbinary youth were 2 to 2.5 times as likely to experience depressive symptoms, seriously consider suicide, and attempt suicide compared to their cisgender LGBQ peers.
I wonder what is different about Utah?
If they treat the underlying condition and improve overall patient health it seems like it's fine to pay for them. The point of insurance is to spread out the costs and improve care and make people more healthy.
Since you are one of the few trying in this thread, I'll try another question. Do you know you share views held by some of the most repressive regimes in the world? You've made your views on Muslims known here, do you know they have some of the most repressive and barbaric policies towards LGBTQ citizens, and trans citizens in particular? That isn't great company to be in.
Ask them if it's okay to correct any of "God's mistakes". Should we stop performing surgery on children born with birth defects because God doesn't make mistakes? No more eyeglasses. Or hearing aids. Or Viagra. Botox and boob jobs are straight to hell offenses.
I’m not suggesting anything close to Islamic views. That is like saying a cap gun is a bazooka. I’m not anti trans in general. I don’t think they belong in women’s sports, nor should it be a taxpayer funded venture. Look, if I said I identified as a taller person with a lower hairline and better beard, would you want insurance to cover a hair transplant?
It's all part of God's plan. That means he intends for kids to be born with birth defects and for them to die young from cancer or heart issues, or auto accidents. You don't mess with God's plan.
Oh, and boob jobs are God's way of saying thank you to good men.
Not gonna lie. I got a chuckle out of this.
Not apples to apples, but quite creative on your part.
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