He was not the first player suspended by the NBA for that reason.
Who hates Iowa? Devyn Marble.
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He was not the first player suspended by the NBA for that reason.
that was a separate incident the year prior. Roy had his demons that he couldn't conquer
So....where would have you ranked him? Like 8th on that team? 7th?
For me, it was the perfect time knowing that Roy was living out his last days. Yes, Marble had gotten into trouble but he had shown a lot of love for the university. I can understand Devyn having bad blood about that. Barta f'cked up big time in my opinion.
I thought it was pretty ham-handed of Iowa to:
A) Not retire even Roy’s jersey (a la BJ)
B) Can’t even re-create something looking like a Marble-era jersey? Did this jersey actually have Okey Ukah’s name on the back?
You can't ignore this:
Luka Garza was Iowa's FIRST Consensus 1st-team All-American since 1952 (68 yrs!).
He's just the third Hawkeye player in program history to earn that achievement.
He is a slam dunk to become a 2x National Player of Year & a 2 time 1st-Team All-American
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Retiring Roy’s number now would be awkward AF, even without Devyn’s tweet. It would be like the Baseball HOF voters putting Santo in a couple years after he died. I‘ll never understand that 2015 ceremony without at least retiring Marble’s jersey.
Kreiner called dibs. Iowa is the defending champ.
Luka is being rewarded immediately because they set the precedent with Megan Gustafson. Both are/were a lot more decorated than Roy Marble nationally and being the all time leading scorer isn't really that relevant to their honors even if they did both get there by the end. Iowa wasn't exactly handing out retired numbers too often the last 35 years, Street being a unique exception. I've always viewed Roy like Chuck Long, except Chuck almost did win the Heisman, both elite Iowa athletes but not to the point they need a number retired.
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This, Roy's last year at Iowa was what 32 years ago? Bob Bowlsby and Tom Davis would have been in charge of organizing the retiring of jersey # 23 at that time if they had wanted to and evidently they decided it wasn't warranted.
Gary Barta and Fran McCaffery had zero to do with this whole unwarranted attack on the University, but if Barta wants to right a wrong that some on here feel has been long since ignored, Barta could retire the jersey the same way Iowa did with B.J.
Will they, who knows but if enough Iowa fans start a petition to have that done, you never know. One thing I'd like to interject, if Iowa eventually does retires his jersey, it shouldn't have any bearing on whether he obtained a degree or not. He was a great Hawk and he held the Iowa scoring record for 32 years. To me that warrants to have his jersey retired...."get er done"
I am making an assumption, but it wouldn't surprise me if there are some boosters/donors from that era who have not forgotten some of the shenanigans. AD's have a weird line to ride with boosters and public perception sometimes.
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The 2 or them decided not to, and Iowa's present A.D and head coach are not responsible for that omission.
As I said if Iowa fans want to start up a petition to have his jersey retired, who knows maybe Gary Barta will look into it.
As far a Devyn not watching Iowa games that's no skin off my back. If he wants to dredge up something that didn't happen 32 years ago it sure as heck didn't keep him from playing for Iowa for 4 years.
The jest of my comments dear sir was, the A.D. and the head coach at the time of Roy's end of his last season or there after, was responsible to either retire his jersey/number at that time. Not 32 years later.
The 2 or them decided not to, and Iowa's present A.D and head coach are not responsible for that omission.
As I said if Iowa fans want to start up a petition to have his jersey retired, who knows maybe Gary Barta will look into it.
As far a Devyn not watching Iowa games that's no skin off my back. If he wants to dredge up something that didn't happen 32 years ago it sure as heck didn't keep him from playing for Iowa for 4 years.
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Without reading the thread and other opinions. I feel Roys's jersey should have been retired. When he was pronounced ill would have been a good time to have done it.
I think it would make someone obsessed with race wonder. Then the facts will stomp out their unnecessary bias.
In August, 2014 it was announced he had cancer.
Just 2 months before that he was arrested for domestic violence after choking his girlfriend.
Puts the school in a petty awkward spot.
The failure to recognize Roy when he got the cancer diagnosis was the time to do something big for Roy Marble. Very big, although no jersey retirement. He played on the same team with BJ and was a better college player for sure. That makes BJ's jersey retirement even more an affront to the Marbles.
Please, this is not true. I watched every game he played also. This was a number one team for many weeks so all the players you mentioned were excellent but Roy was a cut above the rest of his teammates. Real close with BJ, close with Horton, better than Kevin Gamble.
I didn't see the race card pulled or him slamming Garza? He just said his family was being disrespected and he's mad about it.
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I’m not going to pretend to have enough information to make any sort of judgement here. All I know is that Dev has been one of my favorite players to watch during the Fran era. I’ve cheered for him since he arrived at Iowa, through his brief stint in the NBA, and continue to do so in his professional career, and he has always been a classy representative of the program and university. I love seeing former Hawks support the team publicly/on social media, so it’s a bummer that Dev doesn’t choose to support/affiliate with the school and program anymore.
However, he is entitled to his feelings. It’s not like he goes out of his way to badmouth the university. Somebody asked him a question on Twitter and he answered truthfully, without going into specifics.
I hope that the Marble family and the university are able to reconcile down the road, but in the meantime, this is a non-story, and supposed Iowa journalists who are trying to make it one and ultimately cast a negative public light on either Fran or Iowa (especially after the proceedings this past summer) should no longer have the opportunity to cover the university. F that.
However, he is entitled to his feelings. It’s not like he goes out of his way to badmouth the university. Somebody asked him a question on Twitter and he answered truthfully, without going into specifics.
I hope that the Marble family and the university are able to reconcile down the road, but in the meantime, this is a non-story, and supposed Iowa journalists who are trying to make it one and ultimately cast a negative public light on either Fran or Iowa (especially after the proceedings this past summer) should no longer have the opportunity to cover the university. F that.
Actually, retiring Roy's 23 jersey is a great idea, and why stop there, there's "6 year" Jess Settles #4, the "legend" Greg Brunner #44, Peter Jok #3, Dean Oliver #20, Fred Brown #24. Aaron White #30, Fred Brown # 32, Johnny Johnson #45 and I'm sure that there's a lot of other Iowa players that many Iowa fans feel they deserve to have there jersey retired too.
Hey Iowa could create a ring of retired jerseys around Carvers mezzanine, that would be cool....
Hey Iowa could create a ring of retired jerseys around Carvers mezzanine, that would be cool....
Well that’s just stupid lol... the whole season was played besides the final week and a half
I didn't see it as a slam on Luka. I get the hard feelings, best player on the most talented team in 50 years and one of the lesser players on that team, admittedly not much lesser, gets his jersey retired.
But Luka will end his career as 2 time 1st team AA and 2 time Big Ten PoY.
But Luka will end his career as 2 time 1st team AA and 2 time Big Ten PoY.
I'm a huge fan of both Roy and Devyn Marble and it saddens me to learn that the family felt the Marbles were underappreciated. They sure as hell weren't underappreciated in my book. However, there's an obvious distinction between them and every other Iowa player not named Luka Garza: Luka has been named national player of the year. Has any other Iowa player ever received that award or one similar to it?
I do know of one other Iowa player who probably deserved a similar award, and but for two untimely knee injuries, he could have been a national champion as well.
I do know of one other Iowa player who probably deserved a similar award, and but for two untimely knee injuries, he could have been a national champion as well.
I disagree.
This is a discussion on why retiring Luka's # is a slam dunk & why restring Roy's # is (and always has been) far from a slam dunk
And here's another reason why this DOES involve Luka: Dev sees how quickly Iowa is retiring Luka's # right AFTER Luka passed his father on the all time scoring list
So, like it or not, this does involve Luka.
You must have missed this above. Only 3 players in program history have been consensus 1st team All Americans. Three!!!
And Luka was Iowa's FIRST Consensus 1st-team All-American since 1952 (68 yrs!).
He's just the third Hawkeye player in program history to earn that achievement.
He is a slam dunk to become a 2x National Player of Year & a 2 time 1st-Team All-American.
Okay well then you are having a different conversation that is hardly related to Devyn’s grievances with the university. Nine hours before the tweet that prompted this thread, he claimed not to have watched a single CBB game this year. So I highly doubt that his issues with Iowa began this year (let alone last weekend) or, again, have anything to do with Luka
Brommelkamp agrees:
Edit: and why do you insist on reposting tweets and information that you have already posted on this very page of this very thread? Just to be annoying?
Of course it does. Either him or the next guy to come along and get his number retired, then it drums up "hurt feelings" that will apparently last a lifetime.
True. ^^. Imagine the blow back the UI would have received had they feted Marble at that time. They got torched, deservedly, for their soft handling of Pierre Pierce in regards to serious instances of violence and abuse.
Hate the UI admin all you want, but Marble sealed his own fate. It's not like he boofed it one time way back when
Oh my sweet summer child,...when has that fact ever mattered?
They should have done it when the fans were back though. Would have been 16,000 times better.
He did have his demons, unfortunately. Lots of us do for a variety of reasons... I really thought highly of Roy, he was a star... Back in the day I worked at the Lil Red Barn(Kum & Go). And when Roy got the boot from the NBA, he played for the CR Silver Bullets, owned by Bill Krause. He would come pick up his check there. And every time he would grab a 40 of Bud Light. It was kind of a gut punch knowing all that talent was being wasted.
Pat Hardy ambulance chasing Roy jr already. Come on my show. It’s all good. Ask Ed Horton. Pat is a scum loser.
