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I'd express the opinion that defense is highly dependent on how the games are officiated. If physical play is allowed it favors teams that place an emphasis on recruiting physically endowed players over finesse players. Based on criticism of officiating in the 2022 NCAA tourney the physical teams have done well.
 
I am not arguing "for" Iowa's defense. I'm only arguing that they don't stink.

BTW, here are the Adjusted Efficiency Margins ranks for those teams in the Elite 8 so far.

Houston - 2nd
Arkansas - 17th
Villanova - 11th
Duke - 9th

Here are their Offense Efficiency ranks -

Houston - 8th
Arkansas - 53rd
Villanova - 9th
Duke - 2nd

I guess these teams can play offense too.
Ok fine, that's a strange argument. Even so, it depends on your definition of "stinks". If we are judging ourselves against our peers, then I'd argue the 9th in that conference "stinks".

And yes, teams that do well in the tournament usually are good at offense as well, but Iowa hasn't struggled in that area under Fran. It's the defense that needs to improve.
 
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Ok fine, that's a strange argument. Even so, it depends on your definition of "stinks". If we are judging ourselves against our peers, then I'd argue the 9th in that conference "stinks".

And yes, teams that do well in the tournament usually are good at offense as well, but Iowa hasn't struggled in that area under Fran. It's the defense that needs to improve.
So, the scale is -

A. Best in the Nation - Great
B. Top 10 in the Nation - Very good
C. Top 50 in the Nation - pretty good
C. Top half of the B1G - Ok
D. Everyone else - stinks

Understood.
 
And, both teams took it on the chin in the tourney . We have had over 140 losses over the past ten years for our cracker express. You show me a bball team loaded with white guys and I'll show you a team watching the Sweet 16 from their dorms.
Yeah, idk how you haven’t been banned yet when you use racial stereotypes constantly. That should be an autoban
 
Why can’t we complete with Wisconsin yearly? We are a better program but they are better than us almost every year. Is it the officials? I used to live I. Des Moines and now Madiy. I hate wearing my Hawkey gear.
Move out of state. Wear your gear. No one will say anything because no one knows what it is.
 
Because it's difficult to do. Why SHOULDN'T Iowa be where they are? You think that the University of Iowa is entitled to conference championships every year? There is only one every year and we compete with some excellent institutions, including Wisconsin.

Instead of asking why we aren't Wisconsin, how about asking why Iowa is better than Minnesota? Nebraska? Rutgers? Northwestern? Why is Penn State basketball so lousy?

Y'all are spoiled.

But I will answer the question. Wisconsin has nearly double the population of Iowa. They have a major metro area that is 150% larger than the closest comparison in Iowa, so more in-state recruits. They have a better academic reputation so a scholarship from them is more valuable. They have a larger endowment. They have a larger student body, so more alumni/fans and more donations. They can attract better coaches as a result.

The University of Iowa athletics, including basketball, overachieve by nearly every metric.
Sure Wisconsin has more high major in-state recruits, but they haven’t landed many of them. Only the Davis twins and Kobe King have signed from in-state since Brevin Pritzl in the 2015 class
 
Because f*** Wisconsin, that's why!!
You are getting Fran fired up!!!


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Sure Wisconsin has more high major in-state recruits, but they haven’t landed many of them. Only the Davis twins and Kobe King have signed from in-state since Brevin Pritzl in the 2015 class
Are top Wis prep players unenthused about playing for the home state badgers due to style of play?
Hunter and Haliburton preferred ISU? Hmmmm......
 
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Little to no emphasis on defense coupled with very average to poor PG play during Fran's tenure. The is a recipe for failure in this league.

Fran always recruits skill over heart and physicality. Individually we have had players with big time drive (Luka) but that isn't the norm.
 
Barry Alvarez is the difference. Barry Alvarez's expectations attached to his persona vs Barta and before him, Bowlsby who just wanted to move up vs building Iowa into a athletic powerhouse.
 
Y'all are spoiled.
50 years without a Big Ten Championship does not equate to being spoiled.
 
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I'd express the opinion that defense is highly dependent on how the games are officiated. If physical play is allowed it favors teams that place an emphasis on recruiting physically endowed players over finesse players. Based on criticism of officiating in the 2022 NCAA tourney the physical teams have done well.
I think it's because we have some of the whiniest, most negative, Karen's as fans.........kind of erodes interest and support....just a guess.
 
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Are top Wis prep players unenthused about playing for the home state badgers due to style of play?
Hunter and Haliburton preferred ISU? Hmmmm......
In some cases I imagine that is true. Guys like Pat Baldwin Jr and Jalen Johnson weren’t seriously considering by the end of their recruitments

Hunter was not recruited by Wisconsin as they landed a different PG pretty early (Hepburn). An early commitment from Herro pretty much ended any recruitment of Haliburton (limited scholarships at the time), but I imagine the Wisconsin coaches would love to redo that whole thing.

The other one that stands out is when Bo didn’t want to offer Sam Hauser. Gard wanted to offer, but by the time he took over Hauser had already signed with Marquette. Both Sam and his brother Joey end up at UW if they had offered Sam in HS
 
So, the scale is -

A. Best in the Nation - Great
B. Top 10 in the Nation - Very good
C. Top 50 in the Nation - pretty good
C. Top half of the B1G - Ok
D. Everyone else - stinks

Understood.

depends on what you want...if you are happy to be in top half of B1G in standings and get bounced out every year in 1st or 2nd round of NCAA tourney, then our defense if fine.

If you want to at least make a Sweet16, then Iowa has to be between your levels B and C defensively.

No Iowa doesn't stink...with Fran, they are sitting in the middle of where Iowa basketball has been most of the past 45 years.

The good news is Fran's best two teams have been the last 2. The bad news is neither made it very far in NCAA tourney.
 
depends on what you want...if you are happy to be in top half of B1G in standings and get bounced out every year in 1st or 2nd round of NCAA tourney, then our defense if fine.

If you want to at least make a Sweet16, then Iowa has to be between your levels B and C defensively.

No Iowa doesn't stink...with Fran, they are sitting in the middle of where Iowa basketball has been most of the past 45 years.

The good news is Fran's best two teams have been the last 2. The bad news is neither made it very far in NCAA tourney.
This is the trap for every coach.....the more you do/achieve, the more that is expected of you. When/if Fran gets to the Sweet 16 two out of 3 years, fans will say he just can't get to the elite 8....time for a change!
 
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