Your All-Iowa Team historically

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Per my post > here < later in the thread, I'm revising my team..



We’ll allow a baker’s dozen for this exercise.

Here’s mine, starters first:

Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble
Johnny "J.J." Johnson
Bruce “Sky” King
Luka Garza

BJ Armstrong
Adam Haluska
Don Nelson
Aaron White
Greg Stokes

Andre Woolridge
Fred Brown
Jess Settles

 

[hawk_a_holic]

We’ll allow a baker’s dozen for this exercise.

Here’s mine, starters first:

Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble
Bruce “Sky” King
Aaron White
Luka Garza

BJ Armstrong
Adam Haluska
Don Nelson
Jess Settles
Greg Stokes

Andre Woolridge
Matt Gatens
Acie Earl

I would pick Haluska before Gatens.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

I would pick Haluska before Gatens.

Same here.

 

[SSG T]

I feel like Sam Williams, Fred Brown and John Johnson need to be on the team somewhere because I just can't imagine Iowa has had 13 better players than those three.

 

[Big Hawk D-Port]

You need Chris Street and Chris Kingsbury.

 

[wilson reborn]

I feel like Sam Williams, Fred Brown and John Johnson need to be on the team somewhere because I just can't imagine Iowa has had 13 better players than those three.

Fred Brown and John Johnson were starters and key players on an NBA championship team. They have to be on a top ten list.

 

[BBHawk]

I feel like Sam Williams, Fred Brown and John Johnson need to be on the team somewhere because I just can't imagine Iowa has had 13 better players than those three.

Not to mention Connie Hawkins
https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com...e-basketball-career-that-could-have-been-bhgp

 

[goodbyebobby]

Ricky Davis
Raef
Street
The Mayor
Big Al Lorenzen

And Troy Skinner.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Fred Brown and John Johnson were starters and key players on an NBA championship team. They have to be on a top ten list.

I’m not disagreeing with having them on your all-time team, they were great ...but this is about collegiate career, not professional.

 

[wilson reborn]

I’m not disagreeing with having them on your all-time team, they were great ...but this is about collegiate career, not professional.

They could have easily been playing UCLA for a championship, were it not for a fluke play.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Not to mention Connie Hawkins
https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com...e-basketball-career-that-could-have-been-bhgp

I can’t seem to find any stats for Connie during his playing days at Iowa.

 

[goodbyebobby]

I’m not disagreeing with having them on your all-time team, they were great ...but this is about collegiate career, not professional.

Yeah, they were pretty sweet and didn't shoot 3's.
And they didn't have Covid.

 

[Gene65]

I’m not disagreeing with having them on your all-time team, they were great ...but this is about collegiate career, not professional.

 

[ChiDoc]

We’ll allow a baker’s dozen for this exercise.

Here’s mine, starters first:

Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble
Bruce “Sky” King
Aaron White
Luka Garza


Greg Stokes

Stokes was a far better player than either Garza or White, it’s not even particularly close or debatable to anyone who’s figured out there are actually two ends to the basketball floor...

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Stokes was a far better player than either Garza or White, it’s not even particularly close or debatable to anyone who’s figured out there are actually two ends to the basketball floor...

Feel free to post your team, you’re entitled to your opinion. I’m sure many would have Stokes on the first team. IMO White was a superior talent overall and Garza was just far more consistent.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Post '80 Final Four- Pre '80 Final Four

Luka Garza Don Nelson
Roy Marble John Johnson
Greg Stokes Sam Williams
Andre Woolridge Ronnie Lester
BJ Armstrong Fred Brown
Jess Settles Sky King
Adam Haluska Gerry Jones
Aaron White Kevin Kunnert
Greg Brunner George Peeples
Reggie Evans Chris Pervall
Acie Earl Dave Gunther
Dean Oliver Bill Logan
Ryan Bowen Carl Cain

 

[ChiDoc]

IMO White was a superior talent overall and Garza was just far more consistent.

LOL, Stokes absolutely runs circles around either of them on defense to the point its laughable and his offensive numbers aren’t far behind Lukas at all (higher career fg% and only 3 less ppg on 2 less shot attempts per game career) and they completely blow away Whites.

He was a better scorer, rebounder, and defender than White. WTF is White better at that makes him a better talent overall?

Anybody that leaves Lester or Stokes off the first team is embarrassing themselves...

 

[Herky T Hawk]

Avoiding the guys before 1960 because the game was so different back then.

Ronnie
Downtown
John Johnson
Reggie
Luka

Andre
Sam
Roy
Don
Acie

White
BJ
Jarrod

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Luka Garza
John Johnson
Don Nelson
Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble

Acie Earl
Eddie Horton
Bruce King
Andre Woolridge
Bob Hansen

Greg Stokes
Greg Bruner
Jess Settles
BJ Armstrong
Jeff Horner

Just only know the legends of Bucky's teams. That's my top 15, just the way I'd put 'em on the court.

 

[BirdistheWord]

Post 1979:

Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble
Luka Garza
Andre Woolridge
Peter Jok
Aaron White
Jarrod Uthoff
BJ Armstrong
Acie Earl



Best 1 Year Wonder Team:

Ricky Davis
Ray Thompson
Jake Kelley (maybe 2)
Tyler Smith

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Luka Garza
John Johnson
Don Nelson
Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble

Acie Earl
Eddie Horton
Bruce King
Andre Woolridge
Bob Hansen

Greg Stokes
Greg Bruner
Jess Settles
BJ Armstrong
Jeff Horner

Just only know the legends of Bucky's teams. That's my top 15, just the way I'd put 'em on the court.

You’re only allowed 13 on this thread ...who do you drop?

 

[hawkguy77]

Luka Garza
John Johnson
Don Nelson
Ronnie Lester
Roy Marble

Acie Earl
Eddie Horton
Bruce King
Andre Woolridge
Bob Hansen

Greg Stokes
Greg Bruner
Jess Settles
BJ Armstrong
Jeff Horner

Just only know the legends of Bucky's teams. That's my top 15, just the way I'd put 'em on the court.

If you don't have Fred Brown in the top 15, you've never seen him play. Otherwise, i generally agree with your picks.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

1st team

Garza
John Johnson
Sam Williams
Ronnie Lester
Fred Brown

2nd team

Sky King
Gerry Jones
Roy Marble
Andre Woolridge
BJ Armstrong

3rd

Kevin Kunnert
Don Nelson
Greg Stokes
Carl Cain
Dean Oliver

Honorable Mention

Acie Earl
Aaron White
Adam Huluska
Jess Settles
Ryan Horner

13 only please ...had to draw the line somewhere or people would list two teams worth, like you did.

 

[HawkeyeInCentralIowa]

If you don’t have John Lickliter, gtfo.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

13 only please ...had to draw the line somewhere or people would list two teams worth, like you did.

Sorry man. I don't cook... Baker's dozen?

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

If you don't have Fred Brown in the top 15, you've never seen him play. Otherwise, i generally agree with your picks.

Really had a hard time excluding Fred and Kevin Kunnert. Could swap Freddy B for Horner. Freddy was a one trick pony, although his trick was pretty awesome. Bad shooting judgment though. Big boneheaded move cost Iowa a Final Four. Would have averaged 30+ a game with a three point shot.

Had some convo with youngsters that had never heard of Pete Maravich beyond hearing the name. The Pistol averaged over 40 ppg his entire career without a three point line, and if you saw him play at his preinjury peak, he would have averaged over 50 a game easily.

 

[hawkifann]

I can’t judge those I didn’t see. I started watching Iowa just after the Final Four year in 1980, so here’s mine:

Garza
Armstrong
R Marble
Street
Kingsbury

Stokes
Earl
Woolridge
D Marble
Bohannon

Gatens
White
Weiskamp

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

The last few are tough, and there are 7 or 8 others who could make the final 3.

Luka
Ronnie
JJ
Freddie
Nelson
Roy Sr
Sam W
Carl Cain (never saw him, but probably top 10)
Stokes
Kunnert
Acie
BJ
Andre

 

[CarterHall]

I can’t seem to find any stats for Connie during his playing days at Iowa.

Never played. Freshman were ineligible then. SIAP

 

[joelbc1]

I feel like Sam Williams, Fred Brown and John Johnson need to be on the team somewhere because I just can't imagine Iowa has had 13 better players than those three.

Lester
Nelson
S Williams
Marble
Garza

FBrown
JJohnson
Stokes
CCain
AWhite

BJ Armstrong
Settles
EHorton

 

[Suterman]

Freddie Brown
John Johnson
Sam Williams
Don Nelson
Ronnie Lester
Luka Garza
Roy Marble

Greg Stokes
Adam Haluska
Kevin Kunnert
Chris Pervall
Andre Woolridge
Carl Cain

 

[83Hawk]

Some of you really have no clue.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Never played. Freshman were ineligible then. SIAP

Thanks, I actually knew that.

Just wanted the OP to acknowledge it and then rescind his suggestion that Connie be counted among Iowa’s all-time greats. Facts are, although he was a member of the team for one year as a non-participating Frosh, he never actually played for the Hawkeyes in an NCAA sanctioned game.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Some of you really have no clue.

Your 13 please.

 

[markfromj]

They could have easily been playing UCLA for a championship, were it not for a fluke play.

How was Burroughs tip in a fluke?

 

[Hawk fan in Minn]

I started watching about 83

Center Garza
Forward Stokes
Forward Aaron White
Point guard BJ
shooting guard Roy Marble

second team
Center Earl
forward Street
forward wieskamp
point guard Andre Woolridge
shooting guard JBo

 

[83Hawk]

The problem with lists like this is recency bias. Especially younger people who have no sense of history. You also can’t compare athletes from different eras physically. You have to take into account what they did in the era they played. That being said, here are my 13, in no particular order:

Murray Weir
Ronnie Lester
B.J. Armstrong
Fred Brown
Roy Marble Sr.
John Johnson
Sam Williams
Bruce King
Carl Cain
Greg Stokes
Luka Garza
Don Nelson
Acie Earl

I know many folks put Chris Street on their list, but that is for “what might have been.” Had he lived there is a good chance he would be one of the all-time best, but since he didn’t, I could not justify including him.

 

[Longgrover1]

My list would be.

Ronnie Lester
Fred Brown
John Johnson
Don Nelson
Luka Garza

BJ Armstong
Roy Marble
Ricky Davis
Greg Stokes
Kevin Kunnert

Murray Weir
Sam Williams
Carl Cain

 

[83Hawk]

My list would be.

Ronnie Lester
Fred Brown
John Johnson
Don Nelson
Luka Garza

BJ Armstong
Roy Marble
Ricky Davis
Greg Stokes
Kevin Kunnert

Murray Weir
Sam Williams
Carl Cain

Solid. I debated putting Kunnert on mine instead of Acie.

 

[87alum87]

BJ.
Luke.
Roy.
Reggie.
Luka.

Or.

Andre.
Adam.
Kenyon.
Aaron.
Acie.

Or.

Ronnie.
Kingsbury.
Ricky.
Jess.
Greg Stokes

So many combinations!