I’ll throw in…For each day you don’t make a post I will donate $1 to the HWC and $1 to WFL. Anyone else with me? In the words of the great Pinters, “match me”.
I’ll throw in…For each day you don’t make a post I will donate $1 to the HWC and $1 to WFL. Anyone else with me? In the words of the great Pinters, “match me”.
Exactly. I think the PD3 and Teasdale situations show exactly what would happen in this hypothetical, they would set a clear path to redemption for AJ, and if he didn't toe it he would be gone.Sorry! It's just purely hypothetical.
I was simply trying to understand what BBptg5 thinks it would say about the coaches if they did ever decided to bring AJ into the program.
Do I want AJ on our team? Not really. Do I think that if Tom and Terry decide to give him a chance that they've done their homework and have set the proper expectations? Absolutely. And I will trust and support their decision.
In the meantime, let's just get Angelo on board 😈
Fortunately, Penn State hasn’t been interested or needed to roll the dice on the asshat brothers.looks like pst boys are hurt they did not make his top 5
I don't disagree. What I'm saying is the value system is taught much younger and then later reflected in behavior over time.because someone is out of high school doesn't mean they are all of a sudden mature
Yeah, not great but also not a crisis situation either. So many kids flex after winning a major tournament like this. Didn’t see anything out of the norm…Well, there you have it. Young apple doesn’t fall too far from the older apple. Younger Ferrari apparently just cost his team a point at Ironman tournament by “flexing” at the Blair corner.
Well good for them. Take that crap to the psu board. We don’t care!!Fortunately, Penn State hasn’t been interested or needed to roll the dice on the asshat brothers.
OK, just want to check in now to make sure the Turkey Gobbler puts up the dough? I am happy to be helping these great clubs with her $$$$. Just need to know that it is getting done. Please someone fro both clubs let me know? TYFor each day you don’t make a post I will donate $1 to the HWC and $1 to WFL. Anyone else with me? In the words of the great Pinters, “match me”.
Excellent, come on people, join in. This is for a great cause!!! I want to become the biggest donor to these clubs. It is only a dollar a day. Please put in the notes from IRON BIRD!!! TYI’ll throw in…
I agree, tow the line or hit the road!Ex
Exactly. I think the PD3 and Teasdale situations show exactly what would happen in this hypothetical, they would set a clear path to redemption for AJ, and if he didn't toe it he would be gone.
Not like TnT would be selling their soul for a NC. I trust TnT to do their best to mold AJ into a fine young man, and I also trust them to kick him to the curb if he proves he's not part of the Wolfpack 😅
Kid won and got to maybe back his older brother and family a bit. Not sure I would consider this out of line not knowing the full story? Again, not a fan of it, but as Calumet pointed out, it seems to be done very often these days.Yeah, not great but also not a crisis situation either. So many kids flex after winning a major tournament like this. Didn’t see anything out of the norm…
Also he just won iron man…
I think the premise was lost on you…….Do ya all think when I become the biggest donor that they will name the Wrestling room in my honor?
IRON BIRD WRESTLING ROOM I like the sound of that!!!!
Gosh... What school does that sound like?It’s hilarious how many hypocrites are on here. Everybody on this board talks crap about PSU and the Andrew long situation and now a bunch of you are ready to bring AJ in with open arms. His situation is much worse than longs was coming in to PSU as well but hell I guess anything for a title. I have no problem recruiting his younger brother but you all sound like fools talking about aj coming in and acting like you care about him having a second chance when it’s clear you just want another title
MAN, this is kinda dumb! We are IOWA!!! Championships are what we all want and what we all expect. Obviously this kid is an elite wrestler. So if you could bring him in? It would be to help WIN! The DIFFERENCE is dummy. NO ONE HERE is saying bring him in without having extremely strict rules for him to make the team.It’s hilarious how many hypocrites are on here. Everybody on this board talks crap about PSU and the Andrew long situation and now a bunch of you are ready to bring AJ in with open arms. His situation is much worse than longs was coming in to PSU as well but hell I guess anything for a title. I have no problem recruiting his younger brother but you all sound like fools talking about aj coming in and acting like you care about him having a second chance when it’s clear you just want another title
I’m an iowa fan idiot. But if we are winning at any cost than let’s just be blunt about it. It’s ridiculous seeing all these post with people pretending they give a crap about Aj Ferrari getting a 2nd chance and the brands brothers turning his life around. Everybody hated him a week ago and now everybody is fine with him due to there being a slight chance he can come in. Let’s just be honest about it, win at any cost is the mindset not this savior complex bsMAN, this is kinda dumb! We are IOWA!!! Championships are what we all want and what we all expect. Obviously this kid is an elite wrestler. So if you could bring him in? It would be to help WIN! The DIFFERENCE is dummy. NO ONE HERE is saying bring him in without having extremely strict rules for him to make the team.
This is unlike F*** st and the great Kale. He brought in a troubled kid, and there wasn't even any consideration about what he had done. He was brought in with no consideration or regard for his past mistakes. It did not matter!
We have even talked about 2 situations where kids were brought in and never saw the mat. PD3 and Teasdale. Both may have been able to help, neither got a chance because the could not meet standards to make or stay on the team.
So bring your BS to your own crappy board and shove it!!!
The thread is about Angelo - the little brother being #1 recruit in nation and having Iowa in top 5. I don’t see many people lining up for big brother. Just trolls diverting the convo like usual.It’s hilarious how many hypocrites are on here. Everybody on this board talks crap about PSU and the Andrew long situation and now a bunch of you are ready to bring AJ in with open arms. His situation is much worse than longs was coming in to PSU as well but hell I guess anything for a title. I have no problem recruiting his younger brother but you all sound like fools talking about aj coming in and acting like you care about him having a second chance when it’s clear you just want another title
I TRULY believe, knowing TnT that they are THE place to turn a kids life around. They place an emphasis on molding their wrestlers into upstanding individuals. Call it what you want, personally I hope we never see AJ on our team. However, if we do, then in TnT I trust.It’s hilarious how many hypocrites are on here. Everybody on this board talks crap about PSU and the Andrew long situation and now a bunch of you are ready to bring AJ in with open arms. His situation is much worse than longs was coming in to PSU as well but hell I guess anything for a title. I have no problem recruiting his younger brother but you all sound like fools talking about aj coming in and acting like you care about him having a second chance when it’s clear you just want another title
OH, OK, did not realize you were a IOWA fan. Could not tell with what you were saying. For example, I am clearly in the minority about AJ, but as I always do, I back up my case. As pointed out, this is about the younger brother. That is where it gets interesting!I’m an iowa fan idiot. But if we are winning at any cost than let’s just be blunt about it. It’s ridiculous seeing all these post with people pretending they give a crap about Aj Ferrari getting a 2nd chance and the brands brothers turning his life around. Everybody hated him a week ago and now everybody is fine with him due to there being a slight chance he can come in. Let’s just be honest about it, win at any cost is the mindset not this savior complex bs
Bet’s off as I’ll never see when you post now… You’re already in the red anyway. First time I’ve ever blocked a Hawk fan. Nothing personal, just easier on my brain.OH, OK, did not realize you were a IOWA fan. Could not tell with what you were saying. For example, I am clearly in the minority about AJ, but as I always do, I back up my case. As pointed out, this is about the younger brother. That is where it gets interesting!
Some on here are so great at life, that they do not even want the HAWKS to get Angelo because of the brother and father!!! Not sure what your stance is on this? I mean, do not bring in the TOP KID in the nation because why!?!?!? AGAIN, we should be 100% all in on that kid unless HE has some issues not his brother or father who I repeatedly have said are schmucks.
With that being said, My thoughts went to. "what if you land Angelo?" My guess is, this is a pretty tight family. I also would bet that they would want to see AJ wrestling again. I hope that they would also see that he has clearly screwed up badly and needs to turn sh*t around!
That is what this conversation is about. It is a message board. NO need to get your panties in a bundle as many of you seem to do EVER time someone posts ANYTHING- YOU don't agree with!!! I state my reasons, and thoughts about how I feel and how I would go about it.
Everyone else should do the same, without trying to say we would sell our souls for a championship, and we could careless about helping a kid. Like GoHawks1996 said. He might not like to see AJ as a HAWK, but he would trust the coaches IF it ever happened.
I am fully in that boat. I would love to see how that story played out? Going back to Angelo, if anyone believes we shouldn't try and land him. I am not sure you are paying attention. Angelo at 174 would make our future line ups pretty salty and hard to beat. He is about as big of a need as we have as far as weight class! The funny thing is, 197 is also a need, and round and round we go!!!
YES, real fans want to see championships. NO, nobody I know wants to sell their sole of a championship. YES, I would like to see AJ as a hawk IF he met the strict rules I pointed out and was not charge on anything ONLY! NO, i am not confident it will ever happen. YES, I think it is an interesting topic for a message board. NO, I do not think most agree.
Nothing surprising here. Every human is a hypocrite, just to varying degrees, on variable topics, and with widely varying degrees of self awareness (I find this aspect the most annoying/sad....and hilarious at times).It’s hilarious how many hypocrites are on here. Everybody on this board talks crap about PSU and the Andrew long situation and now a bunch of you are ready to bring AJ in with open arms. His situation is much worse than longs was coming in to PSU as well but hell I guess anything for a title. I have no problem recruiting his younger brother but you all sound like fools talking about aj coming in and acting like you care about him having a second chance when it’s clear you just want another title
I think we should definitely be going after Angelo, can’t judge the kid purely based off his family. I also haven’t heard anything crazy about him unlike his brothers and I could care less if he flexes at the Blair bench. If we need to take Aj in order to get Angelo than yes that is tricky and I would not be interested. I will always trust TnT though regardless. I just found it funny that some were trying to flip things around like they cared about Aj getting another chance when we all would of hated on any other team for going after him, especially if it was PSU.OH, OK, did not realize you were a IOWA fan. Could not tell with what you were saying. For example, I am clearly in the minority about AJ, but as I always do, I back up my case. As pointed out, this is about the younger brother. That is where it gets interesting!
Some on here are so great at life, that they do not even want the HAWKS to get Angelo because of the brother and father!!! Not sure what your stance is on this? I mean, do not bring in the TOP KID in the nation because why!?!?!? AGAIN, we should be 100% all in on that kid unless HE has some issues not his brother or father who I repeatedly have said are schmucks.
With that being said, My thoughts went to. "what if you land Angelo?" My guess is, this is a pretty tight family. I also would bet that they would want to see AJ wrestling again. I hope that they would also see that he has clearly screwed up badly and needs to turn sh*t around!
That is what this conversation is about. It is a message board. NO need to get your panties in a bundle as many of you seem to do EVER time someone posts ANYTHING- YOU don't agree with!!! I state my reasons, and thoughts about how I feel and how I would go about it.
Everyone else should do the same, without trying to say we would sell our souls for a championship, and we could careless about helping a kid.
Like GoHawks1996 said. He might not like to see AJ as a HAWK, but he would trust the coaches IF it ever happened.
I am fully in that boat. I would love to see how that story played out? Going back to Angelo, if anyone believes we shouldn't try and land him. I am not sure you are paying attention. Angelo at 174 would make our future line ups pretty salty and hard to beat. He is about as big of a need as we have as far as weight class! The funny thing is, 197 is also a need, and round and round we go!!!
YES, real fans want to see championships. NO, nobody I know wants to sell their sole for a championship. YES, I would like to see AJ as a hawk IF he met the strict rules I pointed out and was not charge on anything ONLY! NO, i am not confident it will ever happen. YES, I think it is an interesting topic for a message board. NO, I do not think most agree.
I started getting confused about it. Started wondering if I missed some nuance about it being a rolling 24hr window vs 24 hrs starting every midnight CT.I think the premise was lost
It was a good premise while it lasted.Bet’s off as I’ll never see when you post
LOL, yea that is what I figured, you would back down. NP I'll continue to keep it REAL!Bet’s off as I’ll never see when you post now… You’re already in the red anyway. First time I’ve ever blocked a Hawk fan. Nothing personal, just easier on my brain.
The point I was making about the younger brother flexing at the Blair bench was not that that particular action makes him a nonstarter. It is that type of egotistical behavior (more concern for himself than his team) is exactly like AJ. AJ’s more serious self involved behaviors began when he had more freedom in college. Angelo’s behavior suggests a similar egotistical trend that could portend more serious issues in his future.I think we should definitely be going after Angelo, can’t judge the kid purely based off his family. I also haven’t heard anything crazy about him unlike his brothers and I could care less if he flexes at the Blair bench. If we need to take Aj in order to get Angelo than yes that is tricky and I would not be interested. I will always trust TnT though regardless. I just found it funny that some were trying to flip things around like they cared about Aj getting another chance when we all would of hated on any other team for going after him, especially if it was PSU.
The Andrew Long situation is totally different from Ferrari’s. Cael taking Long to PSU was detrimental to Long’s well being causing him to end up in Jail. Long needed help with his problems, but instead of help from Cael, Andrew was put in a bad situation.. Long was to be getting help at ISU, but Cael interrupted that help to help Cael and PSU win a championship.It’s hilarious how many hypocrites are on here. Everybody on this board talks crap about PSU and the Andrew long situation and now a bunch of you are ready to bring AJ in with open arms. His situation is much worse than longs was coming in to PSU as well but hell I guess anything for a title. I have no problem recruiting his younger brother but you all sound like fools talking about aj coming in and acting like you care about him having a second chance when it’s clear you just want another title
So…………Bet’s off as I’ll never see when you post now… You’re already in the red anyway. First time I’ve ever blocked a Hawk fan. Nothing personal, just easier on my brain.
Don’t you owe 1000 to wfl already? We made a bet that’s already over!!Bet’s off as I’ll never see when you post now… You’re already in the red anyway. First time I’ve ever blocked a Hawk fan. Nothing personal, just easier on my brain.
Haha. You can wait until after the holidays tho. It’s all good!!Don’t you owe 1000 to wfl already? We made a bet that’s already over!!
Lol…. It was $500 skippy… And it was half to WFL and half to HWC. I’m not even sure you’ve technically won the bet yet, but either way I’ve already paid over half of it whether you think you collected an honest win or not. And if donating season tickets counts I’m already ahead of the bet.Don’t you owe 1000 to wfl already? We made a bet that’s already over!!
Recap of the bet so we can judge?Lol…. It was $500 skippy… And it was half to WFL and half to HWC. I’m not even sure you’ve won the bet yet, but either way I’ve already paid half of it whether you think you collected an honest win or not. And if donating season tickets counts I’m already ahead of the bet.
He said Riggins would have his RS pulled and be our 57 this year…. I said he’d 100% RS and wrestle at 65 as I knew he’d have little chance of unseating Cobe, especially with the added cut he’d have to make. Riggs indeed made an experimental cut to 57 and we saw the results. I’m happy to give $500 either way as I do anyway as I always donate that at minimum this time of year anyway with the plunge coming up. I do feel some sort of split should be in order though…. Or a least a good faith donation from him as well.Recap of the bet so we can judge?
He said Riggins would have his RS pulled and be our 57 this year…. I said he’d 100% RS and wrestle at 65. Riggs indeed made an experiment cut to 57 and we saw the results. I’m happy to give $500 either way as I do anyway as I always donate that at minimum this time of year anyway with the plunge coming up. I do feel some sort of split should be in order though…. Or a least a good faith donation from him as well.
I hope you didn’t injure yourself reaching on this one. A.J. Was egotistical and Angelo is egotistical. A.J. has been accused of sexual assault and since they are both egotistical most likely Angelo will commit sexual assault. You can’t be serious with this post.The point I was making about the younger brother flexing at the Blair bench was not that that particular action makes him a nonstarter. It is that type of egotistical behavior (more concern for himself than his team) is exactly like AJ. AJ’s more serious self involved behaviors began when he had more freedom in college. Angelo’s behavior suggests a similar egotistical trend that could portend more serious issues in his future.
Actually the bet was he would never make 57 for his whole career. Gobblin said he would never be at 57!!He said Riggins would have his RS pulled and be our 57 this year…. I said he’d 100% RS and wrestle at 65 as I knew he’d have little chance of unseating Cobe, especially with the added cut he’d have to make. Riggs indeed made an experimental cut to 57 and we saw the results. I’m happy to give $500 either way as I do anyway as I always donate that at minimum this time of year anyway with the plunge coming up. I do feel some sort of split should be in order though…. Or a least a good faith donation from him as well.