Bleak Future

[MeetTheFerentzes]

bet on it. DM me.

No need. We’ll do the bet right here. If KF is not the HC through ‘29, whether by retirement, firing or death, you leave this board forever as soon as it is a fact; no new username. Same applies to me if he coaches through ’29. Deal, punter-boy?

Remember last year, when I told you Brian would be gone and Kirk would be back and you just couldn't wrap your head around how that could be possible?

No. Sounds like you’re making sh$t up.

So you think I'm bad at sports betting because I lost one bet,

No. I know you’re bad at sports betting because I know you’re an idiot. My guess is you’re equally bad at poker and casino gambling

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

First time in my 40+ years as a hawkeye where I felt this much dread about the future of our program. Kirk is not going to be able sustain mediocrity. We are screwed and things are going to start to unravel. Got a sick feeling in my gut I can't shake.

Welcome to 1999.

I personally think our fanbase needs the reset. Too much revisionist history and not remembering who we were/are and where we came from. Not sure if it's because of our under 35 fans or if it's because our over 40 fans wanted so desperately to throw everything that happened pre-Hayden and everything bad that happened during Hayden into an incinerator and act as if it never happened.............

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Do you mean better writing skills?

Get out your red pen, Mr. Kotter. What did I type wrong? If you’re taking a shot at my silliness, please show us all your creative work and let us judge if you have room to criticize.

 

[HawkeyeinOmaha]

No need. We’ll do the bet right here. If KF is not the HC through ‘29, whether by retirement, firing or death, you leave this board forever as soon as it is a fact; no new username. Same applies to me if he coaches through ’29. Deal, punter-boy?

No. Sounds like you’re making sh$t up.

No. I know you’re bad at sports betting because I know you’re an idiot. My guess is you’re equally bad at poker and casino gambling

You really are a miserable SOB. If you don't like their posts put them on ignore.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Ive lived outside the state for 20 years. Nobody says jack crap about Iowa unless we are 10-0

this. but they do mention the wave every now and then and CC22

 

[hawkguy77]

Competitive with whom? The likes of Nebraska and Northwestern?? Yeah, probably. We had the most experienced OL on the planet in '24 and we shit the bed.

Next season we will be right back to the old "They're inexperienced" excuses - The Iowa Circle of Life.

"They'll be much improved next year." It never ends.

Three of the five OL starters are returning next year. The roster has many young players who may be able to fill in the other two positions well. If we can develop a left tackle and a right guard the OL will be fine, maybe even better than this year.

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

All everybody needs to do is pony up the big bucks to buy the best team.

After all, isn't that what college athletics is all about?

Thats what it is now. Problem is Iowa doesn't have a sugar daddy that wants to see his team compete at the highest level. I hate OSU. They are an SEC team identifying as BIG.

 

[Easthawk1062]

Just how I felt after the election and the future of our democracy.

 

[eyesofhawk]

No need. We’ll do the bet right here. If KF is not the HC through ‘29, whether by retirement, firing or death, you leave this board forever as soon as it is a fact; no new username. Same applies to me if he coaches through ’29. Deal, punter-boy?

No. Sounds like you’re making sh$t up.

No. I know you’re bad at sports betting because I know you’re an idiot. My guess is you’re equally bad at poker and casino gambling

Will Kirk Be the Head Coach Next Year?

Goetz noted that she had consulted with UI President Wilson, too. Who went to whom for this consultation is not stated, so the decision may have come from higher up. If so, the nepotism issue may have been just as big a concern, if not more so, than the on-field performance issues. BG seems to...

iowa.forums.rivals.com

Kirk confirmed back next year & beyond

Fixed it for you. Stay mad.

iowa.forums.rivals.com

Some material I dug up about the subject matter you are claiming I made up. There was more, including some back and forth between us in the first thread I attached.

I decline your proposed bet, although I appreciate your creativity. Death is not a condition I'm willing to include. And this board can't afford to lose me, should I somehow lose that bet. My monetary proposal stands, though.

Since you brought it up, I'm a good poker player for the stakes that I participate in. And I do not play casino games. Anyone who knows a thing about gambling knows those games are not a winning proposition

 

[Easthawk1062]

I think Iowa finds a way to hang around 7-5, 8-4 again next fall.

 

[uihawk82]

I wonder how much nil money was lost after fans watched that mess yesterday?

Yesterday's game was not a mess, we played an SEC team that went 9-3, I dont know mizzou's whole schedule but I dont think they had a really bad loss and not sure who they beat or lost to.

But playing a top 20 team and being the underdog by about 4 points it was a decent game by the hawks who had the lead for 55 minutes. Yeah, the offense sputtered some in the 2nd half but I think the coaches missed some chances to pound mizzou more with the run game and eat clock and maybe get another drive and a score. We punted at the mizzou 40 when we could have tried a 57 yard FG, we threw the ball 3 times on 3rd and 2 in the 2nd half when our run game was really good.

I was also thought we could have tried to pressure their qb from multiple angles rather than sit back in a zone that was too deep.

So it was a game we could have easily won by stringing together 1 good drive in the 2nd half

 

[Bow.to.the.Narrative]

Soft

Good enough to beat your Huskers, which isn't saying much.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Methinks that elements of the Iowa fanbase are being a little overdramatic and/or hyperbolic.

Iowa's performance/trajectory really isn't all that different from Colorado. Many folks out there would likely claim that Colorado is a (media)darling these days.

The Hawks had a 8 win season ... and, for us, it was a disappointing season. It was a season where we had significant QB issues and, by our standards, our D-play was pretty mediocre!

If you're really being honest with yourself ... think about that for a moment.

I think that the offense will be on an upturn with Lester ... I honestly do.

Furthermore, we all know that Phil Parker is a proven commodity. I don't think that it will take him that long to "fix" some of our issues with the secondary.

The Hawks have a proven formula for steady play and good results. Sometimes, when the stars align ... that formula even can produce phenomenal results. Given that this is all being done the "right way" ... there's more to be happy about than not.

I understand the overall sentiment of "Ferentz fatigue" ... but what folks are really lamenting is the frustration of unmet expectations (given how many guys we returned). Furthermore, the offensive play over the prior years was one of the biggest drivers of this fatigue ... and, most evidence seems to point to offensive improvement.

I'm willing to play the long game here ... however, the whole NIL environment already has me feeling rather apathetic about college football as a whole anyhow.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Will Kirk Be the Head Coach Next Year?

Goetz noted that she had consulted with UI President Wilson, too. Who went to whom for this consultation is not stated, so the decision may have come from higher up. If so, the nepotism issue may have been just as big a concern, if not more so, than the on-field performance issues. BG seems to...

iowa.forums.rivals.com

Kirk confirmed back next year & beyond

Fixed it for you. Stay mad.

iowa.forums.rivals.com

Some material I dug up about the subject matter you are claiming I made up. There was more, including some back and forth between us in the first thread I attached.

I decline your proposed bet, although I appreciate your creativity. Death is not a condition I'm willing to include. And this board can't afford to lose me, should I somehow lose that bet. My monetary proposal stands, though.

Since you brought it up, I'm a good poker player for the stakes that I participate in. And I do not play casino games. Anyone who knows a thing about gambling knows those games are not a winning proposition

I’m honored that you actually went to the trouble to dig up some old links that don’t even prove your point. Of course we had discussions about KF’s retirement, and how BF’s dismissal might affect it. Saying that I couldn’t wrap my head around the idea of KF staying it’s just a dumb and made-up thing to say.

I’m not going to take your money. You’ve already lost enough with your compulsive gambling.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

You really are a miserable SOB. If you don't like their posts put them on ignore.

Are you kidding? I wouldn’t want to miss that dude‘s drivel. He makes me feel smarter every day.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Methinks that elements of the Iowa fanbase are being a little overdramatic and/or hyperbolic.

Iowa's performance/trajectory really isn't all that different from Colorado. Many folks out there would likely claim that Colorado is a (media)darling these days.

The Hawks had a 8 win season ... and, for us, it was a disappointing season. It was a season where we had significant QB issues and, by our standards, our D-play was pretty mediocre!

If you're really being honest with yourself ... think about that for a moment.

I think that the offense will be on an upturn with Lester ... I honestly do.

Furthermore, we all know that Phil Parker is a proven commodity. I don't think that it will take him that long to "fix" some of our issues with the secondary.

The Hawks have a proven formula for steady play and good results. Sometimes, when the stars align ... that formula even can produce phenomenal results. Given that this is all being done the "right way" ... there's more to be happy about than not.

I understand the overall sentiment of "Ferentz fatigue" ... but what folks are really lamenting is the frustration of unmet expectations (given how many guys we returned). Furthermore, the offensive play over the prior years was one of the biggest drivers of this fatigue ... and, most evidence seems to point to offensive improvement.

I'm willing to play the long game here ... however, the whole NIL environment already has me feeling rather apathetic about college football as a whole anyhow.

EXCELLENT post.

But far too much reasonability for this board.

And Iowa would beat Colorado with its 2nd stringers

 

[eyesofhawk]

I’m honored that you actually went to the trouble to dig up some old links that don’t even prove your point. Of course we had discussions about KF’s retirement, and how BF’s dismissal might affect it. Saying that I couldn’t wrap my head around the idea of KF staying it’s just a dumb and made-up thing to say.

I’m not going to take your money. You’ve already lost enough with your compulsive gambling.

No, I said you couldn't wrap your head around
the possibility of KF staying if BF got canned.

In attached post, you told me to "get real" in my assertion that, as in your words, " Kirk's decision when to retire has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact that his kid was just given his waking papers." Then continued to say, "(I'm) crazy if (I) don't think this situation will have some bearing on how long (KF) plans to coach.

I don't see where I've mischaracterized your post. Would you like me to attach some more of your posts from that time period?

You aren't fooling anyone who understands English

 

[IChawkeye45]

Methinks that elements of the Iowa fanbase are being a little overdramatic and/or hyperbolic.

Iowa's performance/trajectory really isn't all that different from Colorado. Many folks out there would likely claim that Colorado is a (media)darling these days.

The Hawks had a 8 win season ... and, for us, it was a disappointing season. It was a season where we had significant QB issues and, by our standards, our D-play was pretty mediocre!

If you're really being honest with yourself ... think about that for a moment.

I think that the offense will be on an upturn with Lester ... I honestly do.

Furthermore, we all know that Phil Parker is a proven commodity. I don't think that it will take him that long to "fix" some of our issues with the secondary.

The Hawks have a proven formula for steady play and good results. Sometimes, when the stars align ... that formula even can produce phenomenal results. Given that this is all being done the "right way" ... there's more to be happy about than not.

I understand the overall sentiment of "Ferentz fatigue" ... but what folks are really lamenting is the frustration of unmet expectations (given how many guys we returned). Furthermore, the offensive play over the prior years was one of the biggest drivers of this fatigue ... and, most evidence seems to point to offensive improvement.

I'm willing to play the long game here ... however, the whole NIL environment already has me feeling rather apathetic about college football as a whole anyhow.

That old formula involved playing a Big Ten West schedule. Not playing @USC, hosting Oregon and Penn State and the new Indiana.

 

[jhoosh43]

That old formula involved playing a Big Ten West schedule. Not playing @USC, hosting Oregon and Penn State and the new Indiana.

While the 2025 B1G schedule is tough, here is 2026:
Home: Nebraska, Ohio State, Purdue and Wisconsin
Away: Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern and Washington

Looks a lot like a big ten west schedule to me.

 

[eyesofhawk]

That old formula involved playing a Big Ten West schedule. Not playing @USC, hosting Oregon and Penn State and the new Indiana.

Good Lord!

What happened last time Iowa played USC? They weren't any better than Iowa was this season. When is the last time they had a legitimate D?

Iowa is 10-9 vs PSU under KF.

And we're now supposed to be afraid of Indiana, rather than at least giving the benefit of the doubt to 20+ years of success?

How many of you insisted Washington would pop Iowa this season?

I mean, seriously guys. Enough is enough with this schedule crap. The sun comes out most days here in Iowa

 

[eyesofhawk]

That old formula involved playing a Big Ten West schedule. Not playing @USC, hosting Oregon and Penn State and the new Indiana.

How did Iowa ever win before the Big Ten West?

 

[SCHawkeye99]

I agree and have been a fan of Ferentz leaving Iowa for a long time. It is always just more of the same with Ferentz and now Iowa cannot even compete with top 10 TOP 25 teams,

FIFY

 

[SCHawkeye99]

For those of us that live out of state, its getting kinda demoralizing when you show up to work after a game and coworkers that are college football fans are like, "Sorry about Iowa." or "What happened to Iowa?". They don't rib you anymore, now they seem genuinely sorry for you. That happened to me again today. I'm sure I am not alone.

Live in SC.
Recently my sports-fan barber asked where I went to college.
When I said Iowa, he asked if we still had the worst offense in college football. Knew nothing about '10 wins' or any other BS we tell ourselves.

 

[Zooropa_NCR]

While the 2025 B1G schedule is tough, here is 2026:
Home: Nebraska, Ohio State, Purdue and Wisconsin
Away: Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Northwestern and Washington

Looks a lot like a big ten west schedule to me.

And would you say probably 3 losses ? I’m assuming Kirk still can’t win on the west coast without a month of prep

So 9-3 and we’re maybe 3rd or 4th in conference.

Florida bowl
Fans bring up the 70s
Rinse and repeat

 

[Zooropa_NCR]

Live in SC.
Recently my sports-fan barber asked where I went to college.
When I said Iowa, he asked if we still had the worst offense in college football. Knew nothing about '10 wins' or any other BS we tell ourselves.

Well, you reminded him we won 10 games right!!!! RIGHT!!!!?!??

 

[IChawkeye45]

Good Lord!

What happened last time Iowa played USC? They weren't any better than Iowa was this season. When is the last time they had a legitimate D?

Iowa is 10-9 vs PSU under KF.

And we're now supposed to be afraid of Indiana, rather than at least giving the benefit of the doubt to 20+ years of success?

How many of you insisted Washington would pop Iowa this season?

I mean, seriously guys. Enough is enough with this schedule crap. The sun comes out most days here in Iowa

I don’t live in Iowa. I live in the real world, which does exist almost everywhere in Iowa but maybe not where you are. Washington was awful this year and do you know why?!? They lost a ton of senior talent off a really damn good football team. And Iowa is losing a ton of senior talent off a slightly above average football team. Can you see the parallels? Even the Iowa beat guys are saying they will struggle to win six games with the team as is right now.

 

[WaterTower]

Three of the five OL starters are returning next year. The roster has many young players who may be able to fill in the other two positions well. If we can develop a left tackle and a right guard the OL will be fine, maybe even better than this year.

Would that be what people call a low bar?

 

[eyesofhawk]

Live in SC.
Recently my sports-fan barber asked where I went to college.
When I said Iowa, he asked if we still had the worst offense in college football. Knew nothing about '10 wins' or any other BS we tell ourselves.

No, he's the one on BS. A huge load of it

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

No, I said you couldn't wrap your head around
the possibility of KF staying if BF got canned.

In attached post, you told me to "get real" in my assertion that, as in your words, " Kirk's decision when to retire has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact that his kid was just given his waking papers." Then continued to say, "(I'm) crazy if (I) don't think this situation will have some bearing on how long (KF) plans to coach.

I don't see where I've mischaracterized your post. Would you like me to attach some more of your posts from that time period?

You aren't fooling anyone who understands English

You have no idea what went through Kirk‘s mind when he made the decision to stay on so you aren’t necessarily right. I know that you think you are, but that doesn’t matter. You still lied.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

I decline your proposed bet, although I appreciate your creativity. Death is not a condition I'm willing to include. And this board can't afford to lose me, should I somehow lose that bet. My monetary proposal stands, though.

$20,000 says KF is not the Iowa HC through 2029.

A gambling addict like you can’t resist a sure thing, so what do you say? Give me a very merry Christmas next year.

 

[tdburg11]

Gallery, Clauss, Jensen, Greving, Mo Brown, Hodges, Ochoa, Cole. All would have been in the 99 recruiting class.

Wow, that’s a great class.

 

[DewHawk]

$20,000 says KF is not the Iowa HC through 2029.

A gambling addict like you can’t resist a sure thing, so what do you say? Give me a very merry Christmas next year.

see bold = I certainly hope not because if he is the stadium will be mostly empty on football home games

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Wow, that’s a great class.

Yeah, KF did pretty well with that first recruiting class of his.

 

[swihawk]

I don’t live in Iowa. I live in the real world, which does exist almost everywhere in Iowa but maybe not where you are. Washington was awful this year and do you know why?!? They lost a ton of senior talent off a really damn good football team. And Iowa is losing a ton of senior talent off a slightly above average football team. Can you see the parallels? Even the Iowa beat guys are saying they will struggle to win six games with the team as is right now.

You need to find a better team. Our lowly hawks will do fine without you.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

I think Iowa finds a way to hang around 7-5, 8-4 again next fall.

They seem to do it every year regardless

 

[eyesofhawk]

$20,000 says KF is not the Iowa HC through 2029.

A gambling addict like you can’t resist a sure thing, so what do you say? Give me a very merry Christmas next year.

Nothing is a sure thing, and I'm not a gambling addict.

20k is substantially higher than my unit. More in the neighborhood of a two unit bet for me. DM me and we'll settle on a number.

We can negotiate a longer than a year bet too, if you'd like

 

[Ladell-hawk]

First time in my 40+ years as a hawkeye where I felt this much dread about the future of our program. Kirk is not going to be able sustain mediocrity. We are screwed and things are going to start to unravel. Got a sick feeling in my gut I can't shake.

Buck up man, we will be fine.

 

[ChiPackHawk]

Three of the five OL starters are returning next year. The roster has many young players who may be able to fill in the other two positions well. If we can develop a left tackle and a right guard the OL will be fine, maybe even better than this year.

Some people act like Iowa is the only team subject to graduations. College football for the vast majority of the teams has always been pretty transitional.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Nothing is a sure thing, and I'm not a gambling addict.

20k is substantially higher than my unit. More in the neighborhood of a two unit bet for me. DM me and we'll settle on a number.

We can negotiate a longer than a year bet too, if you'd like

I'm not going to DM you. If you want a date, go to gaydar.net or wherever you usually go.

We're doing this right here for everyone to see, so I can expose you when you welch on it.

What do you mean by "longer than a year bet"? I agree that I'll have this bet won by this time next year, but it's more than a 1-year bet. The deal is you win if KF is still HC through 2029 season, I win if he's not. $20K. His death is a push. Simple. Payable by cash at a Hawkeye football game via self or representative.

You have the deal - Take it or be a chicken sh*t, Mr. $10k-unit Sharp. Sounds like a drop in the bucket for you and your winnings. Heck, you probably pulled that in at the poker tables over New Year's. Say the word.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Wow, that’s a great class.

Hmm, I dunno. I’m going to need to see their average star rating before I decide.