And MI was full court pressing. Down by 6 possessions, with under 30 seconds Who is the douch?
Why risk your career as a coach for that? Howard doesn't have the common sense or self control to be a D1 coach. 2nd strike.
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Why risk your career as a coach for that? Howard doesn't have the common sense or self control to be a D1 coach. 2nd strike.
What does that even mean, for Christs sake? "I was there". Were you in the huddle with both coaches? I'll bet you get a much more detailed look of whats going on , on the floor , AND with the coaches watching on TV then if your "there". Unless you happen to be sitting behind both benches. I know its hard for some people to believe, but sometimes the coaches draw up one thing and the players simply don't execute properly. The biggest issue was we couldn't handle Dickenson man to man, (naturally) and he did a GREAT job passing out of the double teams to open shooters.
Thats rich Gard couldn't get in Howards face without a step ladder, and I HIGHLY doubt he intimidated Howard in any way.
What the replay, Gard literally grabbed Howard as he was going through the hand shake line. Howard was walking right past Gard, none of this would have happened had Gard just kept going.
Top that with Iowa's stars missing a boatload of layups/dunks/freethrows and making uncharacteristically bad ball handling turnovers, they actually gave the game away. The staff tried to get the team on it (almost came back to win) but the players made too many mistakes to win.
Even so that doesn’t give Howard the right to throw a punch at an assistant coach period. Act like a grown man Howard! That’s a b!tch move on his part and he should be fired ! Period
Imagine if Fran did that. The Big 10 would publically execute him.
No you didn’t . Wasn’t implying you were. I’m just saying no matter what happened to led up to the punch you as a college coach need to control your emotions. Howard should be given his walking papers tonight.
Worst part after the Maryland incident he tried to use being from chicago as an excuse. as if since he’s from there that justified his belligerent behavior as if it is ok to act like it. You’re right he’s not a 17-18yr old kid be it from chicago or Iowa he’s an adult getting paid millions to coach and mentor young adults. Not a very good example he’s setting.
Watched it multiple times on my phone. It appears Howard was going to walk by Gard and not say a word to him as he was obviously fuming. You can’t grab a coaches arm to stop them. Howard obviously went way overboard, but Gard crossed a line also. Can you imagine an opposing coach grabbing Fran’s arm when he is fuming?
No doubt Michigan and Howard have more culpability than Wisconsin and Gard, however, the gap between the two is not as great as some think. Gard could have walked past without stopping and confronting Howard and it is possible nothing happens. I believe #0 on Wisconsin is the first player to throw a punch. When all is said and done, Howard will get two games, at least two Michigan players will get suspensions, and #0 will get a suspension. I could see Gard getting a fine.
Wrong on the “not say a word to him thing”. Look closely and Howard is jawing before, during, and after Gard stopped him. Gard’s a jerk imo for other reasons, but to put blame for Howard losing it and assaulting someone in public is quite the stretch.
Juwan should be fined for taking his mask down. Unacceptable.
Gard is not responsible for "triggering" the "punch". JH is fully responsible for his actions.
Oh ok, my bad. I highly doubt Howard gets fired, the commissioner of the Big Ten cannot fire anyone and I can't see Michigan taking it to that level. Pretty sure he will get a multi-game suspension, and I think it should be for the rest of the regular season.
Howard was grabbed 1st. It does not justify his actions, but anyone law enforcement officer or attorney can tell you he would win any type of court hearing in regards to assault.
None of the cheating Fab Five scumbags should ever have been hired as a college head coach. They were scumbags 30 years ago and they're still scumbags now.
At no point did I say Gard triggered the punch, grabbing him and getting into his face when Howard was already pissed off triggered him. Howard is completely responsible for his actions and I've said that countless times in this thread. But Gard is not blameless, he should have kept his mouth shut and gotten through that line and headed to the locker room. You don't grab a guy that you know is already pissed off, heck Howard was already past him and Gard pulled him back.
I can't believe all the people on here defending Gard like he's a saint! You realize this is the same guy who coaches and defends Davison, right?
Meh. Should have had NIL in place back then for these kids that were being used as pawns. I don’t frown too much upon kids taking some money to go to a University that is going to market them like crazy. They were not doing any type of cheating playing the games.
I'll just leave your own contradiction here.
You can not like Gard, believe he is a POS and also believe he is not at fault for JH punching someone. JH is responsible for his own action.
Reason and ethics trump feelings.
JH should be fired.
At NO point did I say he triggered the punch!!!! Can you not friggin read? I said he triggered Howard, heck the punch came much later and it was when the Assistant Coach charged him.
I'll tell you for a SECOND time, and I'll bold it so you hopefully can comprehend it. HOWARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS!
Comprehend now or do I need to explain it again?
Maybe in regards to the touching by Gard, but most likely that doesn’t rise to assault by “anyone in law enforcement.” Fact is Howard assaulted someone else.
I see your point. I just hope the Big Ten does the correct thing and punishes both of them.
Davison shows up as the tough hero after the fight is over and Michigan’s leaving the floor. Typical
Well that changes the narrative a little bit from Gard touching Howard setting him off.
Why is Gard allowing his players to stay on the floor? Get them back to the locker room before something else happens.
What a cop-out. From what I have learned and experienced in my life is that the easiest thing in the world to do is learning how to win, while the hardest is learning how to lose. In life we certainly don't win all the time and sometimes we lose more than we win, so if these coaches can't teach their kids how to lose with class and grace then what are those coaches disgusting themselves as? Pathetic.
Which would help Iowa because he was a mis-match while Dickinson was in the game.
Glad we agree on the bolded point. We have common ground.
I honestly don't know what else you could have meant by "triggered it" back in that original post. If you meant "triggered him", great thanks for clarifying.
Sorry, but thats not what I see. Gard basically cups Howards elbow. This was not a physical response. I also think his explanation in the presser sounds reasonable that he was explaining to Howard why he called the timeout, so that his players would get a fresh clock. He was "coaching". When Gard stopped him Howard immediately grabbed a fistful of Gards jacket. Its clear as day in the video. IMHO, THIS was an aggressive move. Then after Michigan players seperated Howard he clearly pushes through them to take the swing at Wisconsin coaches. This is no different then the incident at Maryland where after tempers flared and Howard had to be physical moved away from the other coaches several times he made no less the three attempts to go around his players and coaches to go after Turgeon from some distance away. I would be one of the last people who'd expect to line up defending Gard or the actions of some of his players, But its very clear here who the aggressor was.....
Correct. This isn’t outside a bar at 2:00am.
