F5 has to be Mary, she constantly blames everyone but her son for Iowa's offensive woes. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if she blamed PP for getting the ball back too quick for the offense.
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A real HC would take DeJean, put him in at QB, and tell Phil to "deal with it."
Well thanks for not responding with another one of your long ridiculous posts. I didn't miss your point because you have no real point. You think you're right and everyone else is wrong. You were right about one thing, you do seem to be dumb. It's good you recognize it, it's too bad you don't try to fix it.
you mean some peanuts in the gallery or my boss/peers? one i'll listen to, the others i'll laugh at.
irrelevant, but since you brought it up. a good teacher/coach should find out what drives and motivates each student/player and emphasize that to bring out his/her best. unfortunately for you, we weren't talking about my skill as a teacher or coach; we were talking about players being influenced by some drunk aholes in the stands and letting that demoralize them to the point they can't function. my point was: i don't believe the players would/could be influenced by booing fans to the point they lose games because of it... in fact it could have the opposite effect.
the guy i responded to obviously feels we have the former, i'd like to think we have the later.
You have to be a mom of one of the players. No one is forcing these kids to read anything they don't want to. If they want to play for fun, then join an intramural team. I bet you think it's mean the other team doesn't let the offense score. I'm guessing being rated one of the worse offenses in the nation is more upsetting than what someone posts on a message board.
Either that, or a Ferentz/offensive player/coach family member.
Never, ever in KF’s lifetime.😬
However, in Hayden’s tenure it was AWESOME! Hayden had the system (back then) and didn’t care about taking teams to the woodshed. He would put in the backup QB to only score more points if they could.
I miss those days.
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The OLine needs to prove they aren't pussies, because that's the consensus based on past performance.
To me, saying the game came down to a few key plays is not the same as saying if a few plays at key moments had gone Iowa's way they could have won.
I've stated the game came down to Illinois playing better than Iowa over 60 minutes. I don't know how else to explain it. Yes, in a previous post I did say the game came down to a few plays. Probably sloppy wording by me on that one. Because to comprehend what was said in the rest of the paragraph as well as in the previous paragraph would be to understand that I clearly assigned blame to the players and coaches for not playing better ball for 60 minutes and controlling their destiny to a point where a couple bounces of the ball couldn't swing the outcome. But that fact that it was an air-tight game and a couple missed bounces happened at key moments does mean there's a significant chance the outcome could have changed had a couple different bounces occurred.
I don't know how else to explain it. You either understand it or you don't.
Again, I don't know why it is ridiculous to infer that a season's worth of fan negativity could have started to get to a few players and may have showed up in a few missed plays.
Not every missed play looks the same. Or, a player can miss a play in the exact same way twice and have two completely different reactions to it. Some players just don't miss certain plays; so when they do it raises an eyebrow. Missing a certain play at a certain point in the game can start to paint a picture of pressure. Rare misses becoming contagious can start to tell a story. There are many factors that can add up to one inferring that pressure may have had an effect on a play .
And I'm not just talking about the pressure of the moment. It appeared that on a few plays the Hawks were just trying too hard. We've all seen what that looks like in sports.
I've even stated that it could have just been internal pressure. That the players really wanted badly to start getting the offense going. And I'm sure that was part of it.
But add in the fact that these are basically kids, or at least humans with an ego. Add in the buildup of 5 weeks of statewide toxicity in the fishbowl community that is Hawkeye athletics (actually longer than that, as a large contingent of fans were outraged before the season even started because they wanted Padilla to start), and I stand by my opinion that there's a good chance some of the fan negativity lead to a few Hawks trying too hard a missing a few plays
Regardless of the line of work - if your performance sucks after being “coached” for several days / weeks / months…
Booing i.e. write-ups or complaints or criticism from colleagues or trash talking yada yada yada is warranted.
You don’t get to suck and not have to suffer some form of ‘blow back.’ There are expectations in the world..You know this of course.
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OK. OK. I will switch to pushing the old EWaterloo Wishbone or, better yet with our Offensive mindset, the Flying Wedge.
Lol. The guy is about to become a mid-first round draft pick at corner.
Not to mention he has taken zero practice reps as a college QB. Nor have any offensive players or units taken any snaps with Coop at QB.
Go back to your Madden game
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They have a daughter also who is married to Barnes who is on the staff.
Cooper has more experience dealing w/the Hawkeye offense than Cade McNamara, Deacon Hill, and Joe Labas total combined time! He's also 110% more athletic than all of them combined!
Your head is stuck in The Portal; only Brian (and, probably you) still plays Madden...lol
I thought they had 5 kids, so that could be the F5. If they're all married, I have no idea, that could be the n5. That said, I highly doubt there would be a Ferentz posting on this board.
Yep, I double checked and actually they have 5 children. Brain, Kelly, Joanne, James and Steven. So maybe that is the "Ferentz 5" sounds like something a Mom would come up with.
It would certainly seem unlikely. However, I borderline became convinced it was Mary last season when she was saying Brian was a genius OC over, and over and defending him ad nauseam saying ridiculous stuff. It was embarassing and something only a mom would say/do especially when he was doing so incredibly poorly.
Now we need to figure out who this eyesofhawk is. I am going to go with a players family member.
I better put this on my next application, I potentially have the longest currently tenured college football coach's wife on ignore. That's gotta be worth a higher starting salary.
Barnes has done really well I think. Our recruiting has been doing well. And from what the rumors have been, he didn’t have anything to do with losing Kadyn Proctor.
I didn't know there was some history there with F5n5. There have been family members (of players) posting in the past. Some say who they are and some don't.
Nice Freudian slip.Yep, I double checked and actually they have 5 children. Brain, Kelly, Joanne, James and Steven. So maybe that is the "Ferentz 5" sounds like something a Mom would come up with.
Holy sheet … I thought I was reading Peter Pan
He certainly has a unique new take.....players are now so distraught over negative vibes from fans that they are making mistakes that are losing games.
that is so true...
when nobody believes in you, it is hard to perform at a high level..
but when 70,000+ believe in you and cheer for you.... that will give you the confidence to perform at the highest level.
fans matter
when nobody believes in you, it is hard to perform at a high level..
but when 70,000+ believe in you and cheer for you.... that will give you the confidence to perform at the highest level.
fans matter
Well shit, losing an away game is now the fault of the 70,000 home fans that weren't even there. Also you were replying to a sarcastic post and completely missed it.
Iowa fans apparently are sending those negative thoughts telepathically during away games.
No, those mistakes didn't lose the Illinois game.
There's still time for you to come along though
"But the game did happen to come down to a few key plays that in my opinion looked as if the players were trying to make up for undue negativity directed at them. And if not for those key plays in key moments, Iowa probably would have won an air-tight game."
Keep digging that hole!
Good post and the guy right below you nailed it. It’s a miserable existence if you’re continually on a comment board complaining. Community board, neighborhood board, political board, newspaper commentary, sports, et al….
And the guy who keeps pretending that 99.9 % of the fans on here are “ok” is a self serving dolt. We wouldn’t be having the conversation if it were even remotely true….
And I agree about Alford, Lickliter and the B-ball team. They both needed gone, but that is when I truly noticed the abhorrent nature of the nasty vitriol…
It soured me greatly!
It ruins the fan experience for everyone except the happy types 🤪 that we have in here!
Sport Psychology Consultants Help Athletes Cope with Fans
– January 2009 – We all know of cases where negative fan behavior has driven some athletes to perform less than their best…or perhaps even knock them completely out of the competition.
https://appliedsportpsych.org › ...PDF
Fan Behavior Impacts Athletes
I’m not going to put a ton of effort into this but a simple Google effort yields plenty of info on the “negative fan”, social media and its affect on athletes!
– January 2009 – We all know of cases where negative fan behavior has driven some athletes to perform less than their best…or perhaps even knock them completely out of the competition.
https://appliedsportpsych.org › ...PDF
Fan Behavior Impacts Athletes
I’m not going to put a ton of effort into this but a simple Google effort yields plenty of info on the “negative fan”, social media and its affect on athletes!
We've already been over that exact paragraph Pee-Wee.
I admitted to poorly wording that the game "came down" to those few plays. And submitted plenty of surrounding context that made that distinction clear.
You're even slower/more sense than I thought
Here’s how the [natural] transition occurs, Mary:
A player is initially highly thought of and “believed” in by many/most.
Said player(s) then does not perform well enough to maintain others’ trust or belief.
Belief >> Poor Performance >> Lack of Belief (in sports, this is generally booing yada yada)
EARN IT. MAINTAIN IT.
I know.. This is rocket science.
Brain. I speak on behalf of the entire fan base when I say we are sorry. It doesn’t matter that you were in charge of the worst offense in modern big ten history. It doesn’t matter that a lot of us felt like this when we watched Iowa the last season and a half, “Golly, I hope we can just get the defense back on the field. It’s our best chance to score.” It doesn’t matter that no one else in the world would still have a job if they had a track record like our offensive coordinator. We are all sorry.
Did I do it right? 😊
Did I do it right? 😊
And yet you continued to say fan negativity caused players to make mistakes on a few plays that affected the outcome. No matter how much "context" you try to add to CYA....you still say the same thing. Over, and over, and over. Do I need to keep quoting you?
The fact that you look at a mistake a player made and claim that it was due to fan negativity is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this board.
You keep digging in your heels and looking more clueless.
But.....I've made my point. No use arguing. You will continue to believe what you want to believe. Have a nice weekend!
