Does Marinelli redshirt?
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Eustice was pretty instrumental in a little event known as the grapple on the gridiron. You may have heard of it.
Most of the fanbase then would be against a redshirt, but what if a redshirt helps the kid improve? Might work out like Martin, but then it might also end up like Jojo. Factor in whether you would rather have the points this year, or the improvement next year.
All hands on deck next year. After next season, we lose Gilman, Clark, Meyer and Brooks. Try to win next year, redshirt the following year. Also, travel back in time and redshirt Nathan Burak this past season. Hell, take a look at Kaleb Young although he seems like he'll need a year to develop. Meyer looked like he struggled with the weight most of the season. So go 165 Marinelli; 174: Young/Paddock; 184: Meyer; 197: Brooks
I'm not saying we have to do that, but Marinelli pretty much has to wrestle.IT makes zero sense to do anything else.
I'm not saying we have to do that, but Marinelli pretty much has to wrestle.IT makes zero sense to do anything else.
I think it's pretty straightforward. You redshirt him at first and turn him loose on the open tournament competition, with the understanding that his RS may be lifted depending on how his November and December pan out. If/when he tears through the open tournaments and does very well at Midlands, you lift the shirt in January, turn him loose on varsity competition, and go like gangbusters for national title #24 with him in the lineup. I think this is what we'll see, and I think one Alex Marinelli is going to be an absolute beast for the Hawks. One of many great kids in the Iowa lineup who are going to revitalize Iowa wrestling.
Now let's put some Hawks on the US Olympic team!!! GO HAWKS!!!
Now let's put some Hawks on the US Olympic team!!! GO HAWKS!!!
I see both sides of the argument here, and seeing how they shirted Kemmerer, who came in as a #1 recruit, I could see TnT doing this. But.....
My question is, if the guy is smoking the guys at his weight in the room from day one and not letting up, why leave him to the tourneys? Why not let him go in the lineup from the start? I know it's a long season, but I think that if you see a guy that's clearly the best option for the team, you put him in there. I'm getting the suspicion that the Hall loss is only going to make this guy more pissed, and that much more hungrier, I.E. more dangerous and podium bound. Best option in my opinion, as I think Paddock should be up at 174.
My question is, if the guy is smoking the guys at his weight in the room from day one and not letting up, why leave him to the tourneys? Why not let him go in the lineup from the start? I know it's a long season, but I think that if you see a guy that's clearly the best option for the team, you put him in there. I'm getting the suspicion that the Hall loss is only going to make this guy more pissed, and that much more hungrier, I.E. more dangerous and podium bound. Best option in my opinion, as I think Paddock should be up at 174.
Always a tough question and I can see both sides. My normal preference is to redshirt, but if the team could win the championship AND if the freshman is exceptional AND can aa, then I think you pull his shirt at the beginning of the season. Four true freshmen AA'd this past year. McKenna (3rd), Smith (7th), McFadden (6th), and Martin (1st). If Brands believes he can AA at 6th or better, which is worth greater than 10 points, then it would seem to be a no brainer.
Midlands a shell of a tournament, wouldn't judge how he does there.
What does that make the Scuffle? Until Illinois backed out at the last second and the weather hit there were as many ranked wrestlers at the midlands.
Obvious troll is obvious in this thread, btw. Keep feeding him, everyone. It's great. I enjoyed the part where he criticized a guy who can't coach for not coaching best.
Are you thinking things through or just being provocative? He is an admin/operations guy. Handles the non-training aspect of the team. He is the other people for that.
It is one thing to have opinions and seeking debate. It is another to be deliberately argumentative.
"I agree completely. I chose Iowa because of the ice cream."
-Alex Marinelli
This job is operations manager which is a stepping stone to an asst job somewhere. One handles the logistical train for the team and is often in the office. Every college team has one. You think Metcalf or Ramos would somehow think, "Hey, let me stop wrestling and the endorsements I am getting and jump into the office to order plane tickets to Montana for the team." Hell, Metcalf would have them all in tents eating MREs.
All I'm saying is give it to a guy that is training. Split it up among 2 or 3 guys. I think they can train and still order tickets. Just an idea!
I can see the point to the idea but there is more to the job than just little tasks. Social media, press, media guide, posters, fund raising, promotion and so on. It just is a full time job. I can see why you made the idea to get that money to the guys training who do need it. It is just that it is a needed job that needs a dedicated person with the skill set to do it.
The best recruits in 2016 (Marinelli) and 2017 (Mejia) love Morningstar. They are from Ohio and California respectively. Not even neighboring states and they seem to know who he is.
He scheduled the Grapple on the Gridiron and he handles all of the HWC guys travel plans. He is in charge of promotional things that build/grow the program. The reason Iowa has successful fund raisers is because of the work Eustice puts in.
He's an elite recruit from a top-notch high school program. Credit to TnT for knowing the right sales pitch to recruit him to Iowa, but they will have no impact on his career. All they have to do is stay out of his way, and he should be a national champ and Hodge contender by his sophomore year.
At least that's what I've read.
Can't believe you guys are entertaining this dude.
His screen name is "Still trying to be a fan"
Is he struggling to support the team for some reason? If so why?
His screen name is "Still trying to be a fan"
Is he struggling to support the team for some reason? If so why?
I'm as high on the Bull as anyone. Great kid, offensive wrestling minded, and tough tough tough.
But, it's going to be a stretch to say he's going to be a Hodge contender or even a national title contender his Sophomore year.
You've got to keep in perspective the level of competition that is already out there and will be out there.
You've got a lot of young talent who are gonna be around for a while in A Valencia, V Joseph, Manville, Joe Smith, Darren McFadden, Daniel Lewis, and Isaiah White.
The era of the idea that cause a guy puts on the black and gold than it's a for gone conclusion that he's gonna multiple titles are sadly gone.
These last few seasons have me slowly transforming from a romantic to a realist
He knows his kid wrestles at Minny. I took it as why would a gopher dad have the future of Iowa wrestling and who the coaches are in his best interest was the point. Somewhat valid IMO
Yup. But it also exposes him as someone who clearly isn't new to the board. I wonder what his past username/s have been.
Cholly is being sarcastic.
I will say this Cholly...If Marinelli comes in, kicks the ass of existing room guys, wins Midlands and then is a high AA, how much will Brands be able to take credit for his "development?" Metcalf was an animal coming in. Right now, PSU has three Metcalfs. Right now, even Marinelli is not at their level in terms of resume...except for Nolf, who didn't freestyle as well.
I guess I just don't see any advantage to having him wrestle varsity until after Midlands. We've already reached the point where dual meets don't matter, and we have so many weak opponents early I don't see it making him better. I would say you don't pull the trigger until you absolutely have to.
C'mon. There were at least 25,000 empty seats at the Grapple on the Gridiron. A lot of room for improvement, if you ask me.
The answer is that there's no hurry to lift the RS. The minute he steps on the mat in varsity competition, his eligibility to RS that season goes out the window. He's very likely to shred the open tournaments, but few things are 100% guaranteed. No reason to pull his RS right away, even if he's dominating the guys in the room at 165, which I think he'll do.
Also, it's a long season. No reason not to let a true freshman work his way into things with some low-key open tournaments where he can get his feet wet without the pressure of varsity competition. I'm confident that Alex would do well if inserted into the lineup from the start, but there's just no need to do so. Might as well let him do his thing on the open tournament circuit, work his way up to Midlands, make a splash there, and move into the lineup in January, with a good 2+ months of high-level competition before Big Tens.
Guess u are new stilltryingtobeafan, * recuited a kid from Ohio, Pa ,and Calif seems like he is know someplace.
As for Luke his job is in adminstation he takes care of things that the coaches don't have time for. Like promotions, fund rasing, has nothing to do with the training or wrestling. He did a great job on grapple on the gridiron that took lots of hard work. Maybe if u want to be a fan study up on what each persons job is before u make stupid remarks like u do.
My question is how is the concept of forcing everyone to redshirt working out for us? Anyone making big strides between years 4 and 5? Secondly, you need to consider that there are only enough scholarship dollars for 9.9 wrestlers. So already you are struggling to find ways to get more money to attract recruits. If we force guys to redshirt, that takes our pool down by 20% on average making it even tougher. To me, it's a simple question. If he is the best wrestler at his weight, he wrestles. If he's not, the other dude wrestles.
Are what programs/coaches I follow or have interest in to be limited by where my son wrestles? In other words does he get to choose not only for him but me as well?
Again, why are you finding it a struggle to still be a fan? You are an obvious troll.
