Downey just tweeted that he wants tobe a Hawkeye
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Well there are times where PDIII seems to be from another world....
I don't believe in Holloway being the future at 97 either. I am a strong believer in rewarding loyalty as a virtue, & I'd gladly invest energy in a loyal room guy for 3 months of reward than invest the same amount of energy into a selfish leech.
Iowa is an awful place to tame the issues this guy has. It is one of the biggest party schools in the country. The temptation will be everywhere. And taking him in the first place only feeds most of his other problems. He doesn't need guidance. He needs to grow the eff up.
I suppose this is with the assumption that Cash and Holloway are going down to 184/197 respectively. I don't think either of those two would like to see Downey come in and take their spot for the second have of the season.
I imagine they'd take it better if it was someone already in the room (or warner) beating them out of the spot.
I'd prefer that he goes some place else for at least a year, if not two, and keep his nose clean, prove that he has made changes and that he is committed to doing the things the right way and earning his way into the HWC program as a sponsored wrestler vs. Iowa/HWC welcoming him in and hoping that they can assist him in turning his life around.
I know some have said that we should take him in and put him on a short leash and cut him if he screws up. "Nothing lost, no risk". I don't think at this point that he has proven that he can be put on a short leash and thrive. I'm all for second chances and love a good redemption story, but this guy has had multiple opportunities and has consistently made poor decisions and has not learned or changed anything in his lifestyle or attitude. Go somewhere else and prove me wrong. If you do, then you can come join us if you still want to.
I know some have said that we should take him in and put him on a short leash and cut him if he screws up. "Nothing lost, no risk". I don't think at this point that he has proven that he can be put on a short leash and thrive. I'm all for second chances and love a good redemption story, but this guy has had multiple opportunities and has consistently made poor decisions and has not learned or changed anything in his lifestyle or attitude. Go somewhere else and prove me wrong. If you do, then you can come join us if you still want to.
Look, I highly doubt the Downey thing is going to happen. But Wilcke and especially Holloway haven't earned a damn thing yet. I hope they do earn the right to call 184/197 their spots by December but the work needs to be done.
A wise man once said, you get what you earn. And if they let someone come in a beat them out for the second semester then it's on them.
Cool story, by your logic, Downey hasn't earned to opportunity to be on the team.
TnT are men of faith. If someone asked for a chance they will give it to them and make them earn it. If this happens he will be accountable for his actions and like Long will be given a one strike and ur out. I bet he will be given the KF treatment and be banned from social media.
I never exhaled your honor.
I'm not trying to defend or say that PDIII doesn't have baggage. I want the best wrestlers at every weight. IF, and that's a BIG IF he stays clean, we'd be stupid to not have him in the room wresting with guys like Wilke, Holloway, Warner, Stoll and Warner.
Wilke and Holloway could both be room guys in 2019 after Warner and a possible Hidley get to Iowa. Not too worried if they "like" it or not. Get better and beat who's there, or by your logic, let's not recruit over them...
If he could win titles at 2 weights simultaneously (and I'm sure he thinks he can) I would not want him. There is no point in slowing down a train thats moving in the right direction, We have a huge push right now and we need to keep that going. If you had a son considering Iowa and you knew PD3 was coming would it affect the decision?
What exactly has he done that is so bad? Being serious maybe I have missed something. I have seen him wrestle and he was in shape when wrestling in Vegas and in Lincoln so it looked like he was being dedicated to wrestle so well at these two events. Where was he training to get ready for the Open and WTT?
I was thinking mascot. Would he fit in the Herky suit.His old man could be a mat aide?
He did at least some of his training in Stevens Point, WI, with Dennis Hall. Super guy, excellent coach, and Greco stud in his day.
I don't think that it is anything that is so bad. But when we have a coach that continually preaches living the life & dedicating yourself to the sport, how can you add a guy that has publically justifiedNOT living the life for the last two yrs? To me the opposing philosophies are comical.
His cardio was suspect...not going to beat a guy like Taylor without it.
He is a superb talent with a ten cent brain. I'm all for second chances but this guy is such a world class screw off. For those that say one bad apple can't infect the bunch, my answer is that it can...and does frequently. It's different when a guy is just out of high school and needs to mature and learn how to succeed. He may have not had the best home life and is a wildcard but those folks can be mentored and influenced by guys already in the program and coaches.
An older guy like Downey, who is already infamous in the sport, can let off a bomb from within. Have seen it time and again. Kemerer or Lee won't stand for it but it's not them you have to worry about...it's those aforementioned younger guys. Don't think it happens but will not root for it at all.
I wonder what Pat Duggan thinks about rooming with PD3
A WISH.
You are given the opportunity to tell David exactly what you think of him. Of course everybody knows your gonads would tighten up to point of immersion and you would babble some horsecrap about being a big fan.
You do pathetic very well.
I would probably just tell him he needs to take some of the pressure Cael is putting on him off and have a little more fun. Although he does seem like a ticking time bomb so I would probably tread lightly.
He posted live video of a girl giving him a parking lot bj without her consent. Or is that considered no big deal nowadays?
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