Fran hates Toussaint! Told you
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Comb through any of my previous posts for my thoughts on Jordan. We are talking about one game where Iowa went on a huge run with Jordan in the lineup. But since your guy wasn’t in the game, and Jordan was, it was done all wrong according to you. Like I said, you’re a nimrod.
Once again, pure stupidity. We are done here
For the record I’m glad to see a coach leave a successful lineup in there. At that point you do not make a change. Now why was the 1st half do bad and why have we decided Joe T is now our 3rd pt guard? Look at Bohannon’s numbers today. He was no better than he’s been all season. We just happened to play a team that’s only ahead of Nebraska.
I don’t have a clue. And, ftr, I don’t want Jordan running the point for any significant amount of time. This team would have been better off, long term, if he would have not come back this year. But it is what it is.
Would you prefer Fran played a different lineup and Iowa lost the game? Would that be a long term win? I understand the frustration with some of Fran’s lineups. You mentioned in another thread that it was good to see Iowa use a shorter bench today, which I mostly agree.
I do think that Fran needs to be flexible and use different lineups against different teams. This lineup today worked as Iowa won the game. We should be celebrating today’s win as opposed to bickering about playing time. Iowa is not a good enough team to take any team for granted.
You know NOTHING about basketball.
Why do you post stuff like this? Of course nobody wants Iowa to lose. Yes, we did some good things but we won on the back of our best player. Murray dominated. Patrick is starting to develop. Bohannon was not great and has been poor throughout the conference season. Does it not make sense to question why he got 36 minutes and our starting pt guard is relegated to 3rd string? If it’s about trying to make a run and win games in the tournament do you think we can do this with him getting 36 minutes?
All so Fran can play a worthless airballing defensive weakling for a 6th year that brings nothing on either end.
What a fool.
I’ve been waiting for you brother! But but don’t you know we beat Minnesota today?
He didn't slack but he's still by far and away the worst defender in the rotation.
The defense (and offense) working is inspite of him.
Hes clearly the weak link on defense that opponents isolate for drives and jump shots.
That didn't change in the second half.
Ash may be the only player capable of forcing more ugly garbage shots.
While I had enough of Bohannon last season and was really hoping he was riding off into the sunset, I'm also not going to get worked up about his minutes. Once Fran decided to bring him back it was a foregone conclusion that he was going to play significant minutes whether they were deserved or not.
They won a game at home that they should have won against a not very good team. While I'm in agreement that the number of minutes he's getting makes no sense, I'm just not going to get worked up about it. It's a win that was badly needed. That's what matters most.
JT should be getting more minutes. But it is what it is. I hope he sticks around, but would certainly understand if he wants to find a spot elsewhere that allows him more court time with less chance of getting the quick hook and sitting on the bench for extended minutes.
They won a game at home that they should have won against a not very good team. While I'm in agreement that the number of minutes he's getting makes no sense, I'm just not going to get worked up about it. It's a win that was badly needed. That's what matters most.
JT should be getting more minutes. But it is what it is. I hope he sticks around, but would certainly understand if he wants to find a spot elsewhere that allows him more court time with less chance of getting the quick hook and sitting on the bench for extended minutes.
Two sets of rules for Joe T and JBo, I don’t get it. Joe always yanked while JBo stays in with poor defense and can’t create a shot. Joe creates shots or makes great defensive plays today and gets pulled. Don’t get it.
We saw last March Iowa get abused by Oregon and who sat the entire second half because they couldn’t defend or create their own shot? JBo. Now he is some sort of answer? He got wrecked at Wisconsin this year till garbage time when Wisconsin pulled their starters. His time has come and gone. A sixth year guy hanging on and holding this team back, especially the young guys trying to get their minutes - Joe T, Perkins, Ulis, and Peyton. It will be interesting to see what happens after this season should Kris and Joe transfer out.
We saw last March Iowa get abused by Oregon and who sat the entire second half because they couldn’t defend or create their own shot? JBo. Now he is some sort of answer? He got wrecked at Wisconsin this year till garbage time when Wisconsin pulled their starters. His time has come and gone. A sixth year guy hanging on and holding this team back, especially the young guys trying to get their minutes - Joe T, Perkins, Ulis, and Peyton. It will be interesting to see what happens after this season should Kris and Joe transfer out.
Keegan is the best defender on the team but point still stands.
Bohannon is always a weak link on defense. No matter what.
Theres no scenario that exists where the defense gets better by having Bohannon in instead of JT.
Exactly.
What Fran did today was a massive step in the wrong direction if the goal is to improve the teams level of competitiveness.
He won today because just about everyone besides Bohannon played well and Minnesota isn't good.
Really? The team wins by almost exactly what Vegas said they would and mindless idiots are bitching about an average player not getting enough minutes to suit them.
My thought out of the gate and then he played. Doghouse City for Joe T. I'll be surprised if he stays.
Second half maybe the best defense Iowa has played this year, after a lousy start. If Ulis could make a shot in the lane, I would have no complaints with his play. I don't get not playing JoeT. No explanation, because JBo still isn't making 3s with any regularity. JBo did play as good on defense in the second half as he has. I really like Perkins energy, but clearly it is better coming off the bench.
Another very nice showing by Sandfort, who has earned regular minutes going forward. He has shown that he is more than just a shooter. Missed Connor on the pass to end the half, but not otherwise. Solid game from Rebraca. Patrick had an excellent second half, as good as I can remember. Keegan was the man on both ends. Battle is glad he doesn't have to play against him regularly. All American performance.
Another very nice showing by Sandfort, who has earned regular minutes going forward. He has shown that he is more than just a shooter. Missed Connor on the pass to end the half, but not otherwise. Solid game from Rebraca. Patrick had an excellent second half, as good as I can remember. Keegan was the man on both ends. Battle is glad he doesn't have to play against him regularly. All American performance.
Well when another below avg player plays 36min’s….
With this team, what exactly could be done differently? Joe T is just not that good. Kris M. Is not Keegan. They have no true big. Tony P is a scorer but is not a shooter. They need someone to keep everyone from sagging down on Keegan. Like it or not that’s JB.
Yes, and with Iowa at 5-6 in the B1G, Iowa is rolling with JBo on the court to justify all of his minutes. Frantastic.
I agree that it was nice to see them mostly stick with the same guys during the run today, that doesn't always happen. There still were a couple subs made during the run though. It's strange that Joe wouldn't even get in when we were up 17 with less than 4 to go. If he's not injured then it just doesn't make any sense.
Why in the world would a different lineup mean Iowa lost the game?
Is this lineup not going to include Keegan?
How about play the best players...PERIOD.
Teams normally win on the backs of their best players. I post questions like this when I am told that people are not looking at the short term, but are playing the long game. Iowa needs to make the tournament before worrying about how far they can go in the tournament. Minnesota is not a very good team, but it was a game Iowa needed to win and they did. I have no problem questioning why Joe did not play more. There may be a valid reason and hopefully we will get this answer, but I do not expect it to come from someone on this board or even today.
A different lineup does not mean Iowa would have lost, but it is not guarantee that Iowa would have won either. The lineup that played today did result in a win. That is the only guarantee.
This. Anyone thinking Bohannon starting at the point, playing 35 mins, and sitting Joe the whole second half is a recipe for success is completely kidding themselves. Minnesota is terrible. We were at home, favored by 12.5 points, and won by 12. Obviously glad they won, but I will not feel confident about this team's tournament chances until Bohannon and Rebraca are getting less than 20 mins a game.
He just can’t seem to do that. Should be Keegan, Kris, Patrick, Joe T, and Perkins or Ulis for pure athleticism to close out games.
And the way Fran hockey rotates line ups in and out of the game, you can’t tell me he wouldn’t have made wholesale changes during that run to stop it right in the middle of it. Guy has no sense on how to rotate players in and out. Put one guy in if needed but not pull the entire team that’s hot like he does all the time with a non scoring line up. It’s like JFC, what are you doing? No one out there wants to take the shot because they aren’t scorers or they will get screamed at by Beaker.
Anyone got a gif of Fran pounding on the chair due to HIS substitution of Ulis for Joe T and Ulis throwing up shots after dribbling around multiple times while the shot clock ran out? I mean Fran makes these substitutions then goes bat shiat crazy with his stupid moves. It’s on you Beaker.
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Jordan is always in the lineup. If Iowa ever goes on a run he will always be in the lineup. That doesn't mean he's the cause of the run.
Here is our lineup dilema....
Bohannon, Toussaint, and Ulis all need minutes and problem we've run into is defending BigTen backcourts with Toussaint 6'0" and Bohannon 6'1"
The decision was made after the PSU game that the Bohannon at SG wasn't working as they hoped and wanted to try JBo back at PG and to get Perkins/Ulis more time defending bigger guards (Willis for one)
My guess is going forward it's going to be JBo with Ulis/Perkins more at the 2G Toussaint can spell JBo but the 2nd problem we've run into is when we don't have JBo on the court (Ulis/Perkins or JT/Perkins) teams have been playing packed in zones and keeping the ball out of Murray's hands and really causing our offense to grind to a halt.
My person feeling is that when Toussaint is in at PG we need to have Sandfort or Kris Murray playing the 2G so we have a 3pt threat.
My line-ups going forward
PMac / CMac - Sandfort
Ke.Murray / Kr Murray
Rebraca / Kr Murray
Perkins / Ulis - Sandfort
JBo / Toussaint / Ulis
Bohannon, Toussaint, and Ulis all need minutes and problem we've run into is defending BigTen backcourts with Toussaint 6'0" and Bohannon 6'1"
The decision was made after the PSU game that the Bohannon at SG wasn't working as they hoped and wanted to try JBo back at PG and to get Perkins/Ulis more time defending bigger guards (Willis for one)
My guess is going forward it's going to be JBo with Ulis/Perkins more at the 2G Toussaint can spell JBo but the 2nd problem we've run into is when we don't have JBo on the court (Ulis/Perkins or JT/Perkins) teams have been playing packed in zones and keeping the ball out of Murray's hands and really causing our offense to grind to a halt.
My person feeling is that when Toussaint is in at PG we need to have Sandfort or Kris Murray playing the 2G so we have a 3pt threat.
My line-ups going forward
PMac / CMac - Sandfort
Ke.Murray / Kr Murray
Rebraca / Kr Murray
Perkins / Ulis - Sandfort
JBo / Toussaint / Ulis
What did change in the second half? Jordan is not a great defender, but he was more than adequate in the second half. I think Joe should have played in the second half. I do not know why he did not. There may be a valid reason why he did not. Regardless, the players that played in the second half did a great job and won the game.
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