Yup. We did win yesterday, albeit against a bad team that the Hawks were a bigger favorite against than any B1G game this year. A win is always a good thing. Joe's a team player and was also happy with the win I'm sure. He will maintain that mindset for as long as he's a Hawk. This is also all irrelevant to everything I just stated above and if you're suggesting that Joe's smile is an indication that he must be happy with what's going on with him and his role on the team I think you're batshit crazy.
Fran hates Toussaint! Told you
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According to most on this board there are as many as 9 best players and you can't play 9 against 5
We subbed out sandfort for pmac during the run and unlike jbo he contributed to it.
Doesn’t help when our 3 pt ace is 25% in. Conf play and our SG off the bench perkins is 1 for his last 19 for 3 in conf according to Hummel during the broadcast. This just makes a case for sandfort to play more. We didn’t miss a beat if anything saw more production with him taking Connor’s minutes.
also another point All I know there is absolutely zero reason to move fwd with jbo at pg unless foul trouble. we have 2 capable pgs for big 10 play. With makeup of this team jbo at point is ineffective this year without Garza to feed the post and garner all the attention along with other shooters like JoeW and CJ surrounding him. We are at our best when we get out and run when we can and ulis and joet so much better at that.
Keep dreaming. Taylor quoted after the game about Jbo’s great on ball defense yesterday and effort on the defensive end. Turned the game around. Never mind he hasn’t played D in the previous 20 games. WTF.
I heard that and decided I didn't watch the same game he coached. Just shows how they're babying him along.
Serious. Did Taylor just forgot about the 1st half? If anyone deserves praise it is Ulis for his effort on Willis 2nd half and most importantly Keegan for shutting down battle the entire game.
I thought that was interesting as well. I can just picture Joe listening to JBo get credit for putting in effort on defense for 1 half when Joe puts in that effort every game on every possession and is a significantly better defender on top of it.
Even in Joe’s 6 minutes yesterday he had 2 steals and I believe only allowed 1 made basket by his guy at the end of the half on a difficult fadeaway shot.
There has to be more to this. The way Joe’s PT is managed is the most puzzling thing I’ve seen since Fran has arrived.
It was a good defensive game by Jbo standards which are extreemly low.
The defense was successful because minny is a great matchup to have both Murrays in the game together which allows Iowa A. to switch all the screens up top, B. Have excellent help rotations C. Have the two best rebounders and defenders in the game at once.
Jbos best defensive game is no where near what any of the other 3 guards bring on an average day.
Jbo didn't play bad defense yesterday. He didn't very good defense yesterday. He really wasn't much of a factor on either end. The Iowa guards were thoroughly dominated by Minnesota's starting backcourt. Keegan and Patrick carried the team to a victory.
Its getting difficult to root for a team that has made men that don't have to earn playing time.
I hate to sound like the self-important experts on this board but it appears obvious to anyone with any basketball sense that JBo is playing because he is a three-point threat. The opponent has to pressure him 100 percent of the time. Joe T. is not a threat, and the opponent can back off him and clog up Keegan opportunities.
Jbo pulls one guard away from the basket, pretty much the same as every player on the perimeter. He's no threat to drive and no one double teams him. If you really want more space for Keegan then insert Kris for Rebraca. It's Rebraca's defender that's clogging the middle. Kris can also score, rebound and play defense.
On offense, Jordan isn't always hitting from outside, but he is always drawing a defender...
Thats why he starts at pg now?
Its should be obvious to anyone with basketball sense that floor spacing isn't the primary job of the pg.
It should also be obvious that just spacing the floor is not a justification for anyone to be playing that many minutes in a big ten game.
If the goal is to space the floor then play Kris and Sandfort more. Guys that can actually get shots off and pull the other bigs away from the basket.
Jbo at 36 minutes is not the answer to any of this teams issues.
If Rebraca doesn't get 20 minutes, the Murray twins are going to foul out trying to guard the post.
Just wrote the same thing.
Lost in all the jbo stuff is the fact the Murrays played most of the second half together when Iowa built the lead and that dwarfs anything that happens with the guards.
When those two are on the floor together Iowa is a difficult team to defend and score on.
20 is about right for Philip.
Id prefer more in the first half then let the Twins win the game in the last 12 minutes.
Kris is already being forced to play the post because Fran has him subbing for Rebraca. Take out the games where he played because of fouls/injury to others and Kris is averaging around 14-15 minutes per game in conference play. Fran is the only one limiting Kris' minutes.
JBo is shooting the 3 worse than Connor in conference play this year. Defenders can press him like that because he is no threat to beat them off the dribble.
Unfortunately he isn’t the player he once was. He is our worst defender and if he isn’t hitting his shots then he shouldn’t play the second most minutes on the team.
You might as well give some of those minutes to the guards that are shooting just as well as him and can consistently play good defense and put that effort in every possession.
For the argument jbo takes a defender away there is also the aspect of joet or ulis driving creating shots for others be it on the first pass or moving the ball if help comes and finding the open guy. Something that we’ve seen other teams do for years after jbo’s guy blows past him. If anything joet and ulis sometimes look to pass too much instead of looking for the pull jumper in the lane.
Yes he did. Loewe was killing us in the first half and at the very start of the second, but JBO got up in his grill from then on and pretty much silenced him. Obviously screens are set and JBO had to switch of of him, but I paid special attention to Loewe in the 2nd half and JBO was on him more times than not.
Good to see Jordan give his once a year effort on defense. And make teams guard him from the 3 pt line because he makes 2.5 out of every 10 he shoots in league play.
He's only about 23 in conference, I'm not saying he get zero minutes. Maybe 5-7 mins less and give them to Kris. Kris is at 2.7 fouls per game currently, Keegan 2.1. I think they'd be fine, have to play your best guys. The bigger issue is Jbo getting close to 30 mins in conference play.
Doesn't Joe live with Patrick? I seriously doubt Joe is going anywhere. From his demeanor on the bench, it seems as though he is fully invested in the program. And I would bet every player on the bench would like to have more game time, not just Joe.
Not only is he our weakest link, there have been games in which the opponent’s strategy on O has been to attack JBo. With success, I might add.
We won, but.... There's always a "but" with butt heads like you.
And speaking of bat shit crazy, you for some reason think you know what's going on inside the program. You don't. You think Joe must be unhappy. You don't know what Joe is feeling. You and others think you are the experts on who should play and how many minutes they should play. You aren't.
And you and others were questioning PMac's minutes, too, which further makes you look like complete dumb asses and bat shit crazy. As you look like a fool and bat shit crazy, people like Jon Rothstein, who actually know what they are talking about, are praising PMac.
I was talking with a friend today about Toussaint and that I couldn't understand what was going on with his minutes. My friend has season tickets and he told me that from his perspective at the games it was easy to understand why Toussaint has the quick hook and doesn't play at the end of the games.
Toussaint apparently likes to freelance on offense instead of actually running the offense which drives Fran crazy so several times a game Fran yells at Toussaint about it. This year Toussaint has been much better at running the offense but he still freelance's occasionally. This leads to the end of games, Fran wants the offense being run and doesn't want Toussaint to freelance it.
Toussaint apparently likes to freelance on offense instead of actually running the offense which drives Fran crazy so several times a game Fran yells at Toussaint about it. This year Toussaint has been much better at running the offense but he still freelance's occasionally. This leads to the end of games, Fran wants the offense being run and doesn't want Toussaint to freelance it.
Wait, I thought you experts wanted to take minutes away from PMac and give them to Kris.
So, PMac's minutes are ok with you now? How long will that last?
It's so nice of you to give Filip more than 0 minutes.
This is hilarious, actually.
Hope you saved the paper copy of that USA Today and framed it so years from now you can reminisce about the magical 2021 season.
Interesting, if true.
But I will say it again. Nobody on here knows for sure (1) why it's decided who plays, when they play and for how many minutes; (2) what's going on inside the program; (3) who's happy and who's not. For some reason the "experts" on here can't grasp any of this; for some reason, they think they are the ones who know who should play and the minutes they should play.
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