about $160 Billion less than NY a year.And what does Florida contribute as long as you have that google search open…
about $160 Billion less than NY a year.And what does Florida contribute as long as you have that google search open…
While I’m not a climate denier, it is a global issue. So, until we can other countries…like China and many others…who are major polluters on-board…it seems like America is likely going to foot the expensive bill on climate change initiatives. Without a concerted world response, unfortunately I don’t see the United States being able to make a major dent on climate issues.I actually agree with you more than you think. There are folks out there who do a terrible job communicating data and they let political bias form their motivation. However--and again--just because the severity of any given problem isn't as imminent or obvious as some folks will try to claim, it doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Hypothetically, please humor me and concede for a minute that there IS a manmade macro effect to global climate patterns, but that it is MUCH more subtle than many think. For example, let's say the demise of earth is 500 years away instead of within the next decade or two as some claim. What is the appropriate response? Do nothing because we will figure it out later? Do nothing because it won't be our problem? If you genuinely believe (without simply letting political motivation drive your opinion) that there is zero effect and it is all BS, then that is fine. But it would be irresponsible--and frankly immoral--for those who have a genuine basis to believe human activity will result in the loss of property and life to not sound the alarm and push for reasonable mitigation practices based on available data. However, we live in a black and white mindset society, so "doom and gloom" and "no problem" are the loudest sides of the discussion.
One of us posts facts and sensible opinions. The other calls names.You are a dumbass
As the 3rd biggest population of all the states we pay a 💩ton in Federal taxes.You’re good? No need for federal help? It’s adorable if you believe this. Ian says hi.
As the 3rd biggest population of all the states we pay a 💩ton in Federal taxes.
I grew up here. Never thought it was any sort of socialism. Is that what they call it in other states that get help for natural disasters?
“A hurricane hitting a whole state on a regular basis”… which one is that?Absolutely, you’re welcome. I desire nor expect any sympathy from anyone if a tornado knocks my place out. I plan/insure accordingly and understand the statistical probability differences between a hurricane hitting a whole state on a regular basis and sporadic, geographically dispersed tornados.
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“A hurricane hitting a whole state on a regular basis”… which one is that?
One that we know is coming and have time to prepare for.
Tell me how much “sporadic” notice you get for a tornado? So you can run down to your basement in fifteen seconds?
I’m a Floridian and I grew up here. Not only did we have a hurricane here yesterday we had several tornadoes which are a by product of outer bands of hurricanes.How many hurricanes have you experienced? How much damage have you paid for due to them even with preparation?
I've lived in the midwest my entire life (not for long though!!! woohoo!) and have experienced 0 tornados and paid $0 in damage. Like I said in previous posts, I like my odds.
You've even moved around a bunch so I probably have more time in "tornado alley" than you do in FL.
Edit to answer your questions directly:
1) Florida. Large swaths of you folks get hit on the regular with winds and flooding, just like all the coastal states.
2) For tornados, you usually get around 30-45 minutes notice it may or may not be on the way.
3) I stand on my porch. I'm a midwesterner. Basements are for out of towners. #twisterthemovieisn'treallife
The argument about socialism and should Florida get Federal money is such dumb assery
I’m a Floridian and I grew up here. Not only did we have a hurricane here yesterday we had several tornadoes which are a by product of outer bands of hurricanes.
By the way I lived in states considered part of Tornado Alley. I’ve heard the sirens go off and seen that weird green sky. Took cover in a hall closet (Texas) and spent a couple of afternoons in a basement (Michigan)
But I also lived in NJ during a hurricane.
The argument about socialism and should Florida get Federal money is such dumb assery it makes me think that 17 year olds must live on this board.
I’m not sure why we’re arguing either.Ok. Great. I’m not sure what you’re arguing with me.
Horrible. The reports are heartbreaking to see.The emerging story will be the floods in North Carolina and Tennessee will be the true reason this storm is remembered. Very worried about death toll.
That's accurate. Everything in this pic past that first roofline - the Old Rock Cafe - is just gone.
Absolutely, you’re welcome. I desire nor expect any sympathy from anyone if a tornado knocks my place out. I plan/insure accordingly and understand the statistical probability differences between a hurricane hitting a whole state on a regular basis and sporadic, geographically dispersed tornados.
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Flash Flood Emergency declared in Eastern Tennessee as water surges into residents’ homes. This is getting worse by the minute.COUNTLESS people in Tennessee and North Carolina are being trapped in their homes by historically rapid flood waters. The dəath toll from Hurricane Helene is now up to 46, and is RAPIDLY rising.
They’ll never understand.Yes, some climate change does as well as new high speed tillage.
Terrifying. The rising death toll is not in Florida but tragically in Western Carolina and East Tennessee- these floods are once in a lifetime events. Horrific.
Yeah, you'd think Mama Nature would know better than to think that MAGAs are capable of learning.
The interesting thing is that Tally has voted blue over the last several elections.
Well it might be difficult to move them otherwise because the power is off and they cannot be charged. NOT political but just asking?This isn’t an anti Tesla thing - this is a hope you FL peeps are good and if you know anyone in the floodwaters warn them:
This isn’t an anti Tesla thing - this is a hope you FL peeps are good and if you know anyone in the floodwaters warn them:
Well it might be difficult to move them otherwise because the power is off and they cannot be charged. NOT political but just asking?
The post says if you can’t move them call the government for help. I’m assuming they will try to tow them out of garages and away from occupied buildings.
Seek help.Yeah, you'd think Mama Nature would know better than to think that MAGAs are capable of learning.
He’s literally in the top 3 dumbest people on the board. Don’t stress him.One of us posts facts and sensible opinions. The other calls names.
I'm sorry that facts and sensible opinions are so hard for you to grasp.
I think what makes this worse is no one in that little east TN/Western Car area evacuated for a gulf hurricane and the flooding was badTake this for what it's worth but I'm getting info from a friend who has communicated with the police chief in Black Mountain, NC and she says that, according to him, it is far, far worse up there than anyone knows yet.
Well, depending on how they vote, apparently they deserve it.Take this for what it's worth but I'm getting info from a friend who has communicated with the police chief in Black Mountain, NC and she says that, according to him, it is far, far worse up there than anyone knows yet.