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$42 billion would purchase 150 million Starlink base units.
There are 127 million households in the country.

In 2021, the Biden Administration passed the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which included a provision to give $42.5 billion to the Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) program to provide under-served and rural areas with internet access. To date, it has connected nobody.
False. Ther are about 5 people in my neighborhood who just signed up. The company providing the service had to run 20 miles of line just to get to town.
 
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This hurricane has devastated such a huge swath of America in a way we see in other parts of the world. I hope things improve quickly for those areas and the residents (fellow Americans)
Who have undergone such traumatic effects.

I'm old enough to remember when a "huge swath of America" was burning up in wildfires, and the POTUS at the time squawked about how "they should have used more rakes".

Still waiting for our current POTUS to claim these areas "should've used more mops".
Of course, maybe current POTUS isn't the complete dumbass that one was.

And if you aren't voting for Harris, you're willing to risk putting that dumbass back in office, again. You do have a choice on that.
 
False. Ther are about 5 people in my neighborhood who just signed up. The company providing the service had to run 20 miles of line just to get to town.

I can only presume you have that confused with something else, and that the agency head isn't lying to Congress.


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"In 2021, the Biden Administration got $42.45 billion from Congress to deploy high-speed Internet to millions of Americans," Brendan Carr, the senior Republican commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), wrote in a post on X (formerly Twitter) this month. "Years later, it has not connected even 1 person with those funds. In fact, it now says that no construction projects will even start until 2025 at earliest."
BEAD is administered by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), an agency of the Department of Commerce. NTIA Administrator Alan Davidson told lawmakers in May, "with BEAD, this is really a 2025, 2026, shovels in the ground project."
 
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The topography of Eastern TE and Western NC really magnified the devastation. Further proof of how infrastructure needs to be hardened as the effects of climate change worsen. Lots of craggy hills and creeks that just can't take these rains. And, keep in mind these are some really, really poor parts of the country. Lots of retirees have moved into some of these areas, but it's mainly poor folks.

Not much you're going to do to "harden infrastructure" in areas like this.

Folks like Trad will scream to High Heaven that "we need to do something".
Then, then will sit back and actively do nothing to reduce our emissions that are making these problems worse. They'll simply parrot the Drill Baby Drill nonsense.

Helene blew up from a Cat 1 to a Cat 4 in 12 hours - something we'd never seen for 100 years or more of hurricane monitoring. Now, that's become a fairly common event. If Helene only grew to Cat 2, there would not have been anywhere near the amount of inland flooding we are witnessing.

These monstrous events are occurring with "just" 1-1.5°C of warming. It's gonna be a whole lot worse if we get to 2-3°C.
 
Not much you're going to do to "harden infrastructure" in areas like this.

Folks like Trad will scream to High Heaven that "we need to do something".
Then, then will sit back and actively do nothing to reduce our emissions that are making these problems worse. They'll simply parrot the Drill Baby Drill nonsense.

Helene blew up from a Cat 1 to a Cat 4 in 12 hours - something we'd never seen for 100 years or more of hurricane monitoring. Now, that's become a fairly common event. If Helene only grew to Cat 2, there would not have been anywhere near the amount of inland flooding we are witnessing.

These monstrous events are occurring with "just" 1-1.5°C of warming. It's gonna be a whole lot worse if we get to 2-3°C.

You never see me say "we have to doooooo something."

Certainly not to prevent climate change, which is a fool's errand.

Yes, we have to rescue people and rebuild from natural disasters.

That's going to happen no matter what happens with the climate.
 
I don’t ascribe bureaucratic incompetence to partisanship.
Partisans of a particular stripe do seem to favor bureaucracy as a preferred problem solving method.

What’s really stupid is they’ve actually precluded using Starlink, and are going to be paying enormous sums to run cabling into remote places for handfuls of people.

Cabling subject to the kind of landslides and washouts we’re witnessing via Starlink broadcasts from the disaster.

It’s stupid².
FUNFACT:

When you run cabling, people can get access from MULTIPLE carriers

Starlink becomes a monopoly in perpetuity.
 
Certainly not to prevent climate change, which is a fool's errand.

Eliminating our carbon dioxide emissions is not a "fool's errand"
It is an absolute necessity, to ensure future hurricanes do not grow even larger and more devastating.

Climatologists told you for 2-3 decades that warming the atmosphere due to human emissions was going to make weather events more devastating and stronger. You just witnessed that here - another Cat 1 system that "blew up" in just 12 hours to another monster. That most assuredly had an impact here; cooler Atlantic waters would have meant a weaker storm; higher temperatures mean more moisture in the atmosphere - that's all the moisture that happened to fall on NC this time.
 
You literally did not read the entire post
Yes.

I did. You bitched about "the army" and "Biden".
Then, you posted again about them 'bringing bridges'.

You're whining about them "doing something" in the immediate timeframe, but you absolutely refuse to "do anything" on the timeframe that would prevent the severity of the storms you're seeing.
 
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Eliminating our carbon dioxide emissions is not a "fool's errand"
It is an absolute necessity, to ensure future hurricanes do not grow even larger and more devastating.

Climatologists told you for 2-3 decades that warming the atmosphere due to human emissions was going to make weather events more devastating and stronger. You just witnessed that here - another Cat 1 system that "blew up" in just 12 hours to another monster. That most assuredly had an impact here; cooler Atlantic waters would have meant a weaker storm; higher temperatures mean more moisture in the atmosphere - that's all the moisture that happened to fall on NC this time.

blah, blah, blah... we already passed the tipping point. Doesn't really matter what we do or don't do now.
 
You never see me say "we have to doooooo something."

Certainly not to prevent climate change, which is a fool's errand.

Yes, we have to rescue people and rebuild from natural disasters.

That's going to happen no matter what happens with the climate.
You might want to move to higher ground then.🤣
 
60 Minutes had an eye opening segment tonight about insurance companies screwing their customers in Florida out of payments. Getting an assessment from an adjuster, then slashing the payment by 90 percent or so after another person looks at it, and leaving he original person's name on it.
 
60 Minutes had an eye opening segment tonight about insurance companies screwing their customers in Florida out of payments. Getting an assessment from an adjuster, then slashing the payment by 90 percent or so after another person looks at it, and leaving he original person's name on it.
Corporations run this country now.
 
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Eliminating our carbon dioxide emissions is not a "fool's errand"
It is an absolute necessity, to ensure future hurricanes do not grow even larger and more devastating.

Climatologists told you for 2-3 decades that warming the atmosphere due to human emissions was going to make weather events more devastating and stronger. You just witnessed that here - another Cat 1 system that "blew up" in just 12 hours to another monster. That most assuredly had an impact here; cooler Atlantic waters would have meant a weaker storm; higher temperatures mean more moisture in the atmosphere - that's all the moisture that happened to fall on NC this time.
There was already a large system of low pressure over the Western Carolina area that had many streams and rivers at near flood stage when Helene arrived and pushed things over the edge.
Were you aware of that…Cletus?
 
I'm old enough to remember when a "huge swath of America" was burning up in wildfires, and the POTUS at the time squawked about how "they should have used more rakes".

Still waiting for our current POTUS to claim these areas "should've used more mops".
Of course, maybe current POTUS isn't the complete dumbass that one was.

And if you aren't voting for Harris, you're willing to risk putting that dumbass back in office, again. You do have a choice on that.
They’re voting for an idiot that wants to get rid of FEMA and NOAA. Good luck hurricane alley. Enjoy what you voted for.
 
Those are not "troops" that Biden has authority over. They are State Guard units.
While the National Guard in each state is usually called out by the Governor of that state, the President also has the authority if necessary. Also, it is possible for the National Guard in one state to assist in another state.
 
There was already a large system of low pressure over the Western Carolina area that had many streams and rivers at near flood stage when Helene arrived and pushed things over the edge.
Were you aware of that…Cletus?
Seriously, this doesn't help your argument at all, Cletus.

The heavy rains that preceded Helena were part of the climate change scenarios that have been discussed previously ad nauseum. It seems that Helena only added to the mayhem.

Try again s'il vous plait.

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Finally some GOOD news! The 8 am update from the NHC has dropped the chance of development in the Gulf over the next 7 days from 50% to 40%. The model data this morning is all over the place with this as some of the models don't have anything forming here until the weekend or maybe even early next week. Lots of time to watch.




Down to 40%! Historically, whatever forms in the Gulf in October, will usually move toward Florida at some point. At this point, the signals are MUCH weaker than with Helene. It's still "wait and see" mode as the system still hasn't formed yet. We'll update 24/7 as always. Definitely a little better news on this Monday morning!
 
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Finally some GOOD news! The 8 am update from the NHC has dropped the chance of development in the Gulf over the next 7 days from 50% to 40%. The model data this morning is all over the place with this as some of the models don't have anything forming here until the weekend or maybe even early next week. Lots of time to watch.


The 7am run of the GFS has pushed it to coming over me and @binsfeldcyhawk2 as a tropical storm on the 8th. The Euro does little with it.
 
60 Minutes had an eye opening segment tonight about insurance companies screwing their customers in Florida out of payments. Getting an assessment from an adjuster, then slashing the payment by 90 percent or so after another person looks at it, and leaving he original person's name on it.

Yes; what they described was plainly fraud. Intentional fraud

And FL's AG has not lifted a finger to go after them.

Lots of folks had 50% to >90% reductions in what was paid to them. Original adjuster might have had $450k 'total loss' and it was changed to 'patch the roof, here's $16k'

They understand the calculus here- AG and Ron Desaster have been paid off, so in order for owners to try to get the money, they have to sue to get it; they cannot even afford to repair their homes, so few have the resources to sue them.

And Floridans are too focused on "communism and trannies" to understand they are getting screwed by the people they've elected, who are supposed to be representing their interests. Truly sad, but you get the governance you vote for, so if you put grifters in office, they'll take the payouts from those insurance companies and leave you hung out to dry.
 
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There was already a large system of low pressure over the Western Carolina area that had many streams and rivers at near flood stage when Helene arrived and pushed things over the edge.

Yes; that's what I'd explained to you once, already.

Warmer atmosphere holds much more water.
Higher ocean temps "blew up" Helene from Cat 1 to Cat 4, literally overnight.

While there can still be flooding w/o human caused climate influences, those influences amplify the severity and damage.
This seems to be befuddling to you.
 
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Some National Guard units have served overseas in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.
So?

They were already deployed by NC's governor before the storm even hit.
They are not under Biden's control; they are run by state governors. Which was already explained to Trad twice.
How many times does it need to be repeated for you here?
 
While the National Guard in each state is usually called out by the Governor of that state
No; they are fully controlled by the states.

The President can request them. NC's governor already deployed them before Helene even hit.
Which is the only answer Trad needs here.
 
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Yeah. He's alright. I'm not sure if he's been allowed to get on the island yet. The one I'm concerned with is @billanole. He's in North Carolina.
I came back to this thread to see if @SolarHawk had given an update. I think residents were finally allowed back on the island yesterday. Hoping for the best for his place. The pics and videos are tough to see. The DQ household got damn lucky. We are only a mile from the beach but that's far enough away that we didn't have to worry about the water. We spend 90% of our free time over on the beach so it's heartbreaking to see all the devastation.
 
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