Not sure what I think of this part. It reads like these aren't important. We have curriculum to teach, and in my job, safety is the number one priority for me. Also, like any class, some kids can handle these and others cannot. Depends on the disability and its severity.I fully admit I don't have answers, but I would love to see some more dynamic options for the higher achievers at all levels and that could include high schoolers spending time at this hypothetical alt-elemenary as well as the "alternative" students coming together for entry level arts, pe or home ec type classes.
This is an area that I think small schools could really set a tone and try out different models, but there would have to be a belief in public ed from the statehouse.
Pine laughed...which means he still hasn't realized he's wrong in his beliefs.Evidence suggests voucher schools push out struggling students
Do private schools push out students who receive state-funded tuition vouchers when they struggle academically? A newly published research study provides evidence that they do. On the other hand, t…inschoolmatters.wordpress.com
My favorite line: Pushout can also be costly to students and their families. State voucher funding stops when the student leaves, but the schools may bill families for tuition for the month or even the entire semester
So it IS about the money and not the education...
Each child is different. Some can handle some classes and can't handle others, for a variety of reasons and disabilities. With Behavior Disorders, it's a crapshoot almost every single day.I understand what you are saying and agree we need to work on alternatives, but at the same time some laws restrict our options. We certainly shouldn't go back to the days when SPED kids were taught behind closed doors and didn't interact with the "normal" students, but at the same time I don't think mainstreaming is necessarily the answer either.
Small towns won't see much change as they won't have many school alternatives ever. There are about 5 rural charter schools in Indiana and almost zero new private schools in Indiana outside the urban/suburban areas. The vast majority of new private schools in suburban areas have been quasi-homeschool religious collectives that wanted voucher dollars.Small towns actually won’t see much change because they don’t have many school alternatives yet.
Taking one for “the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost” ain’t all its cracked up to be!Do that many kids want their kids sodomized by priests? Hmmm...who knew?
Not sure what I think of this part. It reads like these aren't important. We have curriculum to teach, and in my job, safety is the number one priority for me. Also, like any class, some kids can handle these and others cannot. Depends on the disability and its severity.
Also, I agree with your first part, HOWEVER, again, we have parents pushing for their kids to be in Gifted programs but they are delusional. It drives me nuts when I see kids in that room, but they don't turn in their work in their regular classes.
All good!That's not what I mean at all, in fact my life has probably been influenced by these classes more than most. I brought those departments up because, in my experience they were more conducive to offer meaningful work and opportunity to learn across a wider spectrum of achievement. Nothing I wrote should be misconstrued to mean all the time or even always together. I just imagined some programing that can involve higher needs students with the general student body, or better yet the highest achievers, to everyone's benefit.
No clergy work at most of those schools anymore.
Apparently, you might be surprised to learn, you don’t even need to go to church, or be religious, to go to private school.
That’s fine. But, the teachers and students at these schools had nothing to do with any of that.
I just googled one district. The superintendent of Des Moines public schools makes just over 300k. 306 to be exact. Des Moines public schools have just over 5000 employees. How many corporations of that size have a ceo that makes less than that. I genuinely don’t know. It seems to be a reasonable salary though.
Nothing is changing for rural Iowans. They won't notice one thing different. Which is just the way they want it.
I am going to be honest here; "What else are these guys going to do to make that sort of money in the private sector?".
The truth is most of these guys are middle managers in the real world who likely top out in the low $100k range. We could pay the large school supers far less and there would still be plenty of candidates bc they have no where else to go and THEY KNOW IT. Good luck to these guys trying to compete with the likes of me in the private sector, they wouldn't know how to keep up...most in non-military govt would.
Except their tax dollars are being pilfered to give to well to do families to attend private schools.Nothing is changing for rural Iowans. They won't notice one thing different. Which is just the way they want it.
“You’re lucky you got 2%!” - Kim Reynolds to a small school superintendent.It will lead to quicker school consolidation in rural areas. Higher funding will flow towards larger schools on a per student basis once democrats take control and that will come via zero or near zero dollar increases for rural community schools. Why, because our system of govt have become more and more political top to bottom. Blue leaders will cater to their urban voters while republicans cater to their large dollar voters who are more conservative in nature. The rurals will of course vote their values and go conservative even though it will hurt them equally if not more so than their blue politicians. The blues will ignore them bc they don't vote for them and the reds will ignore them bc they just give up their vote to them regardless of what they do.
More school consolidation happens. That means those communities that lose the school in their town will experience further rot, more flight, lower property values. This private voucher deal just speeds rural community death in Iowa as not it will come from both sides.
Instead of consolidating schools these types of communities should be looking first to shared resources of overhead and administrative staffing individuals.
Would you take 300k a year to deal with that many kids?I am going to be honest here; "What else are these guys going to do to make that sort of money in the private sector?".
The truth is most of these guys are middle managers in the real world who likely top out in the low $100k range. We could pay the large school supers far less and there would still be plenty of candidates bc they have no where else to go and THEY KNOW IT. Good luck to these guys trying to compete with the likes of me in the private sector, they wouldn't know how to keep up...most in non-military govt would.
BullshitThe intent of the bill was not to improve public schools. It was to allow families to leave schools that weren’t meeting their needs.
The capacity issue at private schools will improve with the new funding, but that will take time.
At that level he/she are dealing with wackadoo parents. I’m at a good, high scoring school and I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve heard about parents calling “downtown” because they don’t like a building decision.Would you take 300k a year to deal with that many kids?
I doubt people realize what the job of DM supt. encompasses.Would you take 300k a year to deal with that many kids?
99% of what he posts on education is bullshit. He’s been gaslighting this entire thread. The educators have been spot on from the beginning. Kim can’t fool us.Bullshit
Would you take 300k a year to deal with that many kids?
Most don't.Thing is some superintendents don't even deal with kids.
Pine laughs so we know this is fact.
Private schools aren't set up to accommodate IEP's because they haven't been funded fairly for decades.
Maybe with the new law that can change.