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*****Iowa vs Illinois (BTT) Game Thread*****

Fran is gone after this year, unless Beth wants even more empty seats in Carver.....program back in the dumps and Fran put it there
I’m not sure she cares about that. I expect she will give him “one more year”.
 
Big man for illini got his shooting groove on vs Iowa last month....but ladji and Even get up in his face this time and Dix digs in on kaspar....and hawks in shooting groove themselves now.

Iowa 77 illini 75

I hope so. Iowa fought yesterday and played with some grit/toughness. Hopefully it carries over to today
 
Brock is 12 of last 22 shots from arc...all the work in summer paying off?
Probably. He's supposed to be a gym rat/scorer, making an unguarded 3pt shot should be the easiest shot B-ball besides FTs and being short shouldn't matter.

I can't find B1G only conference stats. Brock had a slump early in B1G and teams weren't guarding him as tightly. Good point he's making shots recently.

Iowa needs both Payton/Dix to be making shots + a 3rd scorer. Thelwell, Pryce, Brock---at least one of those guys needs to be making shots and they all have pretty good 3pt percentages. Payton is kind of weird. He's been hitting his 2 point shots this season, but if given
an open 3pt shot, I cringe that it will be a super brick or air ball. JBO went a career with fewer air ball 3's than Payton has this season.
 
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Probably. He's supposed to be a gym rat/scorer, making an unguarded 3pt shot should be the easiest shot B-ball besides FTs and being short shouldn't matter.

I can't find B1G only conference stats. Brock had a slump early in B1G and teams weren't guarding him as tightly. Good point he's making shots recently.

Iowa needs both Payton/Dix to be making shots + a 3rd scorer. Thelwell, Pryce, Brock---at least one of those guys needs to be making shots and they all have pretty good 3pt percentages. Payton is kind of weird. He's been hitting his 2 point shots this season, but if given
an open 3pt shot, I cringe that it will be a super brick or air ball. JBO went a career with fewer air ball 3's than Payton has this season.
He's shooting 34% beyond the arc in conference play. Dix and Thelwell are both 43%.

 
Iowa Advantage:

1. We've already seen this team and know how to adjust to what they are going to bring.

2. We have a game under our belts. The rust is off and we will be ready to start fast.

3. Our spacing and passing has been elite in the last 2 games. Something has clicked.

4. We out rebounded this team last time and that is one of their supposed strengths.

5. Illinois can't shoot, and they refuse to accept this fact so they often bury themselves by being stubborn about shooting the 3.

6. Illinois has been weak in transition D several times this year, and we are elite in transition O.

7. All neutral fans will be pulling for Iowa because we're the #15 seed, and everyone in the league f*cking hates Illinois.

8. Illinois is the definition of inconsistency.

9. We have Thelwell back.

10. We have a better story and more to play for.

Illinois Advantage:

1. More starting talent.

2. Deeper.

3. Will have more fans there.

4. They guard the 3 well.

5. They score in the paint well.

6. If (a BIG IF) they are hitting threes, they can just blitz teams and bury them in 3:00 stretches.

I can see this team coming out and stunning Illinois in the first 10 minutes such that they just can't recover. See how USC (a bad team) absolutely punked them in Champaign.

I can also see this team just hanging around until the last 2 minutes when some Hawkeye Heroics (TM) kick in.

Excited Lets Go GIF by Zypto
 
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Illini are 3-3 in last 6 but have won 3 in row by 20,20 and 8.
It seems that they finally got their big man healthy in the 81-61 win vs Iowa and are in groove now.
Could get ugly...we kinda need a miracle everyday this week.
They have been playing much better in the last three games if you watched them. Really do not give Iowa much of a chance for a W today, but JMO
 
Iowa Advantage:

1. We've already seen this team and know how to adjust to what they are going to bring.

2. We have a game under our belts. The rust is off and we will be ready to start fast.

3. Our spacing and passing has been elite in the last 2 games. Something has clicked.

4. We out rebounded this team last time and that is one of their supposed strengths.

5. Illinois can't shoot, and they refuse to accept this fact so they often bury themselves by being stubborn about shooting the 3.

6. Illinois has been weak in transition D several times this year, and we are elite in transition O.

7. All neutral fans will be pulling for Iowa because we're the #15 seed, and everyone in the league f*cking hates Illinois.

8. Illinois is the definition of inconsistency.

9. We have Thelwell back.

10. We have a better story and more to play for.

Illinois Advantage:

1. More starting talent.

2. Deeper.

3. Will have more fans there.

4. They guard the 3 well.

5. They score in the paint well.

6. If (a BIG IF) they are hitting threes, they can just blitz teams and bury them in 3:00 stretches.

I can see this team coming out and stunning Illinois in the first 10 minutes such that they just can't recover. See how USC (a bad team) absolutely punked them in Champaign.

I can also see this team just hanging around until the last 2 minutes when some Hawkeye Heroics (TM) kick in.

Excited Lets Go GIF by Zypto
Agree with most of your points, but you went all Jess Settles on us with the overuse of "elite".
 
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I hope so. Iowa fought yesterday and played with some grit/toughness. Hopefully it carries over to today
In the back of my mind I wonder if the team has rallied around the uncertainty regarding Fran. They likely don't read message boards but know the score with fellow students and others around them not happy with the state of the program. Good on them 👍
 
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I cringe that it will be a super brick or air ball. JBO went a career with fewer air ball 3's than Payton has this season.
Great minds ...

I was thinking the exact same thing about JBO vs Payton.

Payton's quick release has long been celebrated but I think it has to be contributing also to his INORDINATE amount of airballs. No bueno.
 
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5:30pm BTN
Illinois -10.5
O/U 166.5

The Fran McCaffery farewell tour continues with an extra showing.

88-67 Illinois
Horrible matchup for Iowa, as usual. But at least it ain't in the spaceship in Champaign. If Iowa shoots well, they'll have a chance because they're playing with some energy and effort and actually doing some rebounding and trying on defense. But if Iowa wins, it'll be a huge upset and a close game. Iowa ain't blowin' Illinois out, not IMHO. But your score is probably the most realistic, though they're gonna play the game anyway. Like most Hawkeye fans, I can't stand Illinois, so this would be an especially sweet win, but it just seems too much to ask.
 
You wanna talk about the overuse of the word "elite" the women announcers of the WNBA are ... well ... elite at this.
 
In the back of my mind I wonder if the team has rallied around the uncertainty regarding Fran. They likely don't read message boards but know the score with fellow students and others around them not happy with the state of the program. Good on them 👍

Crossed my mind. There was a looseness yesterday, like they were all just gonna let it fly effort wise, from the coaching staff to the last players on the bench.
 
He's shooting 34% beyond the arc in conference play. Dix and Thelwell are both 43%.


Nice link--thanks.

Harding at 34% in conference despite recent hot streak

Payton 33% from 3pt line in Conference play---matches my eyeballs. Maybe his wrist or some injury is the problem, but in that case shoot more 2pt shots instead of 3s or Fran play more Pryce at 38%. A 33% 3pt shooter shouldn't be leading B1G in 3pt attempts.


I like the conference only stats because it takes away those games like the New Hampshire game where everybody has a career shooting game playing vs bums.


Go Hawks... Beat the Illini is almost a Sweet16.
 
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