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I'm sure those 237 replies are all about the Murray twins. I'm sure there's no arguments that have nothing to do with the Murray twins in that thread.The one with 237 replies and over 25K views? Who would have thought to look there?
Appreciate you posting. Good read!
You are welcome.
Lets face it. The 2020 class has taken some heat/criticism. I thought it was a good story where it shed some positive light on their journey. And as you can see from the orig post, the twins' dad appreciated the post as well (PHawkKenyon is Kenyon Murray).
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This is serious shit, guys! Do you realize how dangerous it is to have multiple threads on the same topic?!?! Especially with all of the important Hawkeye related stuff going on right now! Legend took that giant dildo out of his ass to read this post...and for what?
The only negative posts could have come from some very legendary sources.
With Pemsl and Till leaving, I see these 2 getting those minutes plus. Glad to get this type of athlete on the team.
and that thread was about wondering if they would be committing to Iowa & all kinds of other negative stuff; this thread is about the positive stuff!The one with 237 replies and over 25K views? Who would have thought to look there?
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They seem to have developed a great deal post HS. The extra year has done them wonders. Oh and I want to keep this original post on the first page.
Don't forget about Pat if he's healthy.
Great read. Thanks for posting! Good stuff … Sounds like they are both working hard on their games and their year at the Academy is/was time well spent!
Yes, you are right. The trio of PMac and the Murrays will be solid at the 3-4 positions for a while, depending on the opponent and what the coaching staff feels will do the best.
Thanks OP! I for one appreciate you clearly posting a link to an article of interest.
In the future, as others on this thread have mentioned, I will know to click into threads with hundreds of posts and sift through all the bickering in hopes of finding links to articles I didn’t know existed. That evidently is a more efficient way to go about life. It’s how the government would do it. So it must be the best way.
In the future, as others on this thread have mentioned, I will know to click into threads with hundreds of posts and sift through all the bickering in hopes of finding links to articles I didn’t know existed. That evidently is a more efficient way to go about life. It’s how the government would do it. So it must be the best way.
How many Iowa high school grads take advantage of these academy opportunities? I know Wegher went to IMG. Others?
So what? You just "wasted our time" again, by bringing that up and re-posting that link. Crap wait... I just wasted time too. Damn it.
Ahh yes, the raging controller. Controllers don't like to be mocked, right?
What makes the Murray twin's story so interesting is that every player's journey is a little different although in many ways their journey is predictable and very similar to others. In this case we have a very unique set of circumstances.
Not a lot take this road. Like I said in another post, we had to make a "modest" financial investment in their future which has paid off and not everyone can swing it. They didn't want to go to Florida, but it was Fran's recommendation to find a prep school that they could develop at. That commitment from my boys led to the continued interest from Iowa and what got them here.
Worth it just for the 2 scholarships! And the boys get to where the Black and Gold. Looking forward to watching them over then next 4 years!
It is amazing how far they came in a year. Talent + Hard work = success!
With Cordell gone to V Tech and Jack a complete unknown at this point, the Special Ks, or at least one of them, are going to be needed to play meaningful minutes in conference games.
Jack playing minutes anywhere but Luka's reserve (assuming....) would be surprising to me. He wasn't very athletic before the major injury.
Ogu doesn't appear to have much of stretch game, although there hasn't been much video on him. There's a lot of video of the Ks and playing against better competition than they would face in HS almost anywhere. They both look pretty good.
They've probably played a good deal of ball against former, admittedly superannuated Big Ten players so the boys have some idea of what they're in for when they hit Big Ten play.
Jack playing minutes anywhere but Luka's reserve (assuming....) would be surprising to me. He wasn't very athletic before the major injury.
Ogu doesn't appear to have much of stretch game, although there hasn't been much video on him. There's a lot of video of the Ks and playing against better competition than they would face in HS almost anywhere. They both look pretty good.
They've probably played a good deal of ball against former, admittedly superannuated Big Ten players so the boys have some idea of what they're in for when they hit Big Ten play.
I've watched highlight clips of prospects for many years and usually take everything I see in them with a grain of salt. With that said, watching highlights of your boys, I'm not seeing a lot of difference between them and some others who are ranked in or around the Top 100. They seem to have great length, respectable athleticism, and shoot the ball at a high percentage.
So, my question is, do you believe your kids were overlooked because they developed so late and/or did moving down to Florida cause them to be evaluated too late in the game, which kept them from moving up in the ratings?
I don't really care about the ratings, I was just curious if you had any insight on how that all works.
Last, I love legacy recruits. I was pretty young when Roy Marble was at Iowa in the 1980s, but I remember that '92-'93 season (for many reasons) vividly. I'm really looking forward to seeing your boys don the black and gold. Best wishes.
There are three reason I believe they were somewhat over looked. 1) They developed physically later than other players. 2) Being twins that wanted to play together was an obstacle to coaches looking at their scholarship numbers. 3) They are from Iowa. On the last point, tell me how they go to Florida, practice at DME for 3 weeks, play in a 2 day showcase and have 40-50 coaches calling about them? Location, location, location!
Thanks for being a great Hawkeye Kenyon! I loved cheering you on in the black and gold and look forward to doing the same for your kids.
If P Mac cannot play both Murray boys will probably get all the PT they can handle. The Hawks already appear to need one of those kids ready to play Ryan's minutes as "the 4", just in case I didn't make that point clear above. Very different roster than when they signed.
I have to confess a strong bias for the Iowa HS boys that play basketball for the U of Iowa's boys basketball team and grow into Hawkeye men. Its an even stronger bias if it involves legacies; and stronger yet if it the legacy is a well liked outstanding player.
Now, the real question is did PHawk teach those boys to bust their ass on defense like their Dad?
I have to confess a strong bias for the Iowa HS boys that play basketball for the U of Iowa's boys basketball team and grow into Hawkeye men. Its an even stronger bias if it involves legacies; and stronger yet if it the legacy is a well liked outstanding player.
Now, the real question is did PHawk teach those boys to bust their ass on defense like their Dad?
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They dont have the wingspan or sheer size of Kriener, but will bring more of a 'wing 4' or '3/4' playing style, which sounds good. Kriener was more of a 4/5. We will need at least 2 big bodies against certain teams. Hoping that is Garza + Nunge.
And from what I can tell, both don't seem to mind mixing it up on the glass to get rebounds.
Good point, and a better way of stating my proposition. Luka and Jack are a more traditional "twin towers" approach to the high low game. I too typically prefer the "4" to have the ability to defend other guys that are 6'8"ish and have some open court game. Jack cannot, or at least has not shown, any ability to defend out of the lane. Hence the opportunity for at least one Murray to get into the regular rotation.
Side note - when Kenyon’s name came up I always thought of Battle Creek. Sounded cool back then.
I hope Kenyon is like Lukas dad and travels to all the games! Even if seeing him there makes me feel old
I couldn't get the video to play. Bummer.
The Murray boys certainly have looked good on most of their other video, and you can see nearly entire games. I could see one of them getting heavy minutes when we upsize C Mac at the 4 spot.
Basically, one of them is going to take Cordell's minutes, and maybe more if Jack isn't ready and Ogu can't really defend outside the lane. Play good enough defense so not to offset the other players good defense, get some boards and look for the open shots and garbage around the basket is really all we need and that for only 7-10 minutes a game.
The Murray boys certainly have looked good on most of their other video, and you can see nearly entire games. I could see one of them getting heavy minutes when we upsize C Mac at the 4 spot.
Basically, one of them is going to take Cordell's minutes, and maybe more if Jack isn't ready and Ogu can't really defend outside the lane. Play good enough defense so not to offset the other players good defense, get some boards and look for the open shots and garbage around the basket is really all we need and that for only 7-10 minutes a game.
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