Probably the multiple deep leg attacks and near takedowns, including when the final stall was called. Did you even watch the match?
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Nothings killing this sport especially a weekend like this. Best talent, depth and wrestling ive seen in my life of this tourney
Busted rule-set
Im glad. i want DA's revenge. Like poster on the wall staring at it for 365 days sort of thing
Give us Trent and Shane!!!!
IMO the 3pt TD is backfiring here in the finals. Everyone seems hesitant to fire off shots for fear of giving up 3 in turn.
Hardy and Mendez are the lone exception.
Hardy and Mendez are the lone exception.
Folkstyle is broken man. Crotch lock and chest wraps used primarily and exclusively to stall their way to a stalemate.
Hard time saying Byrd outwrestled him in every position given we all saw Ayala win a scramble that should've been scored a win.
Don’t forget diving to an ankle and rolling through to create a stalemate or even a potentially dangerous
I guess just give up the takedown instead of getting your legs back to sprawl
I'm cutting out the middle man, so you don't have to "run it by Cael, first"...................................................
Yeah, that was terrible. Shot him off the mat. But equally bad was when he called stalling on Pleicher at the 5:08 mark when ADS drove him off the mat. Bad reffing. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I will never understand why you''d have a mat that you can reach out on at aa championship event (and even that wouldn't get a stall call.. and i was rooting for keck when he did it)
I don’t think that’s a TD because he didn’t have his head popped out but they stopped it. Ridiculous
Byrd’s takedown on the edge was closer to 3 than Ayala’s in SV
Oh good, i get to relive Matt M losing for playing right into Robles strengths. Can I get some Ramos clips too? maybe a Marianetti highlight?
Time for the finals match we’ve waited all year for : Taylor-Blaze
So why aren't they calling stalling for pushing people out of bounds on purpose.?
That's all Lovett seemed to be doing.
That's all Lovett seemed to be doing.
Yes but very exciting matches. Go watch again. Lots of shots greater defense. I like 12-8 matches like all but at this level offense stopped by great defense over and over is good to watch and exciting imo
I don't know how to answer if you think Ayala out wrestled him that match. A scramble position that resulted in no points. Could it have been called, absolutely. Unfortunately, I watched all 10 minutes. Not saying I like it, but one guy wrestles to win, and one not to lose.
Byrd has 1 deep leg attack with his ankle pick with 30 seconds left in the 3rd period. That was it. He had a couple of swipes besides that. He did control territory. He was not in deep or near takedown repeatedly. He was slightly better in my opinion. I just don't agree that he was significantly more aggressive in my opinion.
Very interesting take, I believe you are right.
Didn't think about it.
Hands down with Byrd behind for a second before Ayala dives through. Then Ayala doesn’t get to an ankle and Byrd has control of his hips before Ayala recovers to his feet.
Without this year’s reinterpretation of reaction time, that was a no brainer takedown. Under this year’s officiating, it’s 50/50 depending on the official.
Drake’s only argument was neutral danger, and I don’t think he was ever close to a full 3 seconds with Byrd in danger. Byrd readjusted and cleared danger, so the count restarts. I’m open to changing my mind with a second watch, but live I don’t think it was super close. Another 2 seconds on the clock, he might have gotten it thought.
But did Byrd really out wrestle DA? I won't argue he took space, but he was just as leery of exposing himself to a Drake shot as Drake was to give up a big move.
If Drake was running, instead of being locked up and getting pushed, sure ding him. I guess Drake should have just disengaged and gotten back to center.
If the stalls were called consistently, nobody complains.
And then again on a single in SV - which is how Drake almost scored off the leg pass. And then again on the pick in rideouts. Also 2 hip to hip seatbelt positions on the edge where he almost was able to shelf the leg.
Agreed. Someone on here stated after Drake lost that it is tough to win without a takedown. 3 of the champions crowned tonight won without a takedown. Just an odd deal
The first one? Gotcha. I'm ok with it. Honestly at this point, I'd rather just go to a pure pushout point than what currently happens
Might as well get booted from multiple boards tonight.
Byrd did all the work in that match and Ayala deserved another stall call before the one in question. I like Ayala and think he had a great tournament but the best man won
Byrd did all the work in that match and Ayala deserved another stall call before the one in question. I like Ayala and think he had a great tournament but the best man won
If you think that was a “deep” leg attack when that final stall was called then you’re not half as smart as you seem to be sure you are. Not sure what you were watching smartass.
elbow deep in the waterfall position pressuring back for neutral danger isn’t “deep?” okay lol
I appreciate your thoughts, and hell, I’m an alum and am a fan of all things black and gold; however, Drake did not deserve to win that match plain and simple. I love the kid, but when one wrestles not to lose rather than wrestle to win, you’re going to get burned. That stalling call was atrocious, but Drake didn’t bring his A game to that match.
Drake is an absolute stud, and I hope he gets a title next year, but you get what you earn, and Drake earned second place tonight. Hate to say it, but it’s true imho.
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