Real results are when we have a coach who is greater than .500 career wise at the helm we beat you guys.
Iowa will always be Nebraska's little brother. Big brother is getting back.
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Iowa will always be Nebraska's little brother. Big brother is getting back.
Proverbs 19:15: Laziness brings on deep sleep and the shiftless go hungry.
Indeed. I'd put Christian Peter in the same boat as Phillips though. Peter was arrested 8 TIMES while at Nebraska. He had four convictions and raped the same woman TWICE! And Tom Osborne kept him on the team. That's hard to even fathom. And there's really no logical explanation for it other than Tom had wins on his mind before anything else. Cut and dried.
He raped the same woman twice? You mean to tell me he was convicted of 2 counts of rape and the state of Nebraska didn't even lock him up?
Are you really attempting to defend Christian Peter? Throw O.J. Simpson in while you're at it. He was never convicted of murder.
Peter was a scumbag in his younger days, but he was never convicted of rape. Just the facts.
Fine. Take the "alleged" rapes out of the equation. He still has a slew or arrests and convictions. Osborne kept him on the team because winning came first.
True. He pled no contest to sexual assault. Makes it much easier for the cult family to justify. In that case, he only grabbed a woman by the crotch. Nebraska DID, however pay another woman who accused Peter of raping her 50,000 bucks to be quiet. He tried to choke down another woman who called him a rapist and threatened to kill a parking attendant. And what did Saint Thomas do to restrain his defensive CAPTAIN? In the midst of 8 different arrests, Peter was suspended a total of one game.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AxAB&usg=AOvVaw3ir78Guqi9lilopfHc2Jfb&cf=1
I can translate the article if it is too challenging for you.
I can translate the article if it is too challenging for you.
Yessir. This 1995 article from Sports Illustrated details how Tom Osborne dealt with numerous crimes committed by his players in nice detail. Essentially, from a discipline standpoint, he didn't. He was very active in attempting to get them cleared of their crimes though.
The quote below sums up Tom Osborne perfectly. Winning was the only thing that mattered at Nebraska. Therefore, he did whatever he could to keep his team intact.
"I don't tell Tom Osborne how to run the football department,"
Lancaster County Attorney Gary Lacey says, "and he should stay
out of the criminal justice system. He hasn't done that at all."
According to Lacey, Osborne has taken it upon himself to
interview witnesses in criminal cases, offered very public
opinions on the probable innocence of players who have yet to
stand trial and attacked the credibility of witnesses testifying
against his players. In January 1994 he and an assistant even
locked away a gun that had allegedly been used by one of his
players in the commission of a felony.
https://www.si.com/vault/1995/09/25...y-in-the-man-who-runs-the-program-tom-osborne
Learned the cherry picking from your fake fanboys. Actually doorknob I was showing you what the recruits of today know. Nebbie Cornhole fans want to make Iowa out to be mediocre and it is comical to look at facts right?
I hope you are able to get over this one day. It obviously has you traumatized. And grumpy,
The UI study has limitations, including the fact that researchers only tested hospitalized players’ blood for creatine kinase, a marker for rhabdo. The risk factors for players with mild cases were not examined. Only two players had drug screens immediately after the squat workout, which meant researchers had to rely on later drug tests.
Go figure. And performed by IU employees? Haha.
Solid effort, though.
Didn't Nebraska just have players with rhabdo this off season?
As for the original topic Newsom. Was not 1st team all state in class 3A last year. Lot of buzz is kind of like Chrisitian French garnered few years ago when he was one of top recruits in the state. Size, athleticisim and measurements factored in to his recruitment ranking with possible potential out weighing production so far on the field.
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This might be my new favorite. "Iowa will always be Nebraska little brother" (dont mind the fact Iowa has $hit kicked nebraska recently) "big brother is getting back." (you dumb twat the thing about being a big brother is even on your worst days you beat up your little brother)
You truly are stupid, literally everything you have come over here and tried to say has been incorrect.
Your entire grounds of optimism are hopes and dreams. Hey d1ckbag, did you listen to PJ Fleck talk about "being better every day" at b10 yesterday? That's what every sh1tty team says, it means you are a sh1tty team.
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Christian Peter was not found guilty of rape because the victim, through title 9, went after it from a discrimination perspective. He was convicted of sexual assult.
Despite this precedent, Title IX was for many years regarded mainly in the context of sports, a law having to do with parity in athletic spending and access. That public view started to change due to lawsuits, like a 1995 suit concerning a University of Nebraska football player repeatedly accused of sexual assaults.
Kathy Redmond said she was raped during her freshman year in 1991 by Cornhuskers defensive tackle Christian Peter. Another woman would later tell police that, when she said no to sex, Peter ejaculated on her face. But the stiffest punishment Peter got from the criminal justice system was 18 months probation for sexual assault for grabbing a former Miss Nebraska by the crotch in a bar and telling her she liked it; the stiffest punishment he received from Nebraska was having to sit out a spring game. Years later, then-coach Tom Osborne told the New York Times, “I didn’t want a lot of negative consequences to result.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadsp...failed-everyone-on-campus-rape-1765565925/amp
Despite this precedent, Title IX was for many years regarded mainly in the context of sports, a law having to do with parity in athletic spending and access. That public view started to change due to lawsuits, like a 1995 suit concerning a University of Nebraska football player repeatedly accused of sexual assaults.
Kathy Redmond said she was raped during her freshman year in 1991 by Cornhuskers defensive tackle Christian Peter. Another woman would later tell police that, when she said no to sex, Peter ejaculated on her face. But the stiffest punishment Peter got from the criminal justice system was 18 months probation for sexual assault for grabbing a former Miss Nebraska by the crotch in a bar and telling her she liked it; the stiffest punishment he received from Nebraska was having to sit out a spring game. Years later, then-coach Tom Osborne told the New York Times, “I didn’t want a lot of negative consequences to result.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadsp...failed-everyone-on-campus-rape-1765565925/amp
I haven't read an article that says he pulled her out of bed. The ones that reference where he found her said he found her in the bathroom. Others say he threw her to the bathroom floor. Regardless, there is little fact that says what Scott did or didn't do. So this whole "Scott hid in the closet thing" is conjecture unless you have facts about what happened.
Agree on the competitiveness, given the last two results were butt-kickings from the same side.
She filed a criminal complaint, but there wasn't enough evidence for the police to file charges and the case was dropped.
Don't blame someone else for your decision to use skew the data. Just own it.
That's a ridiculously long reach if you think using 2002 instead of 2000 makes the difference to "recruits of today". To a 17 and 18 year old kid, whether you start with 2000 or 2002, it makes no difference. So, that's a lie and you know it. You're calling me the doorknob, but you're the one being disingenuous and thinking everyone else on the board is too dumb to realize what you're doing.
You set the line at 2002 because it supported your case. In fact, you realized that if you set it at 1998, 1999 or 2000, which would make more sense than arbitrarily choosing 2002, then you don't actually have a point. If you want to pick a point in time that actually matters to kids both programs are recruiting, pick something like the start of the B1G for Nebraska or the start or change of a coaching staff. Let's stop the spin.
Since 1999 (Start of Ferentz coaching era to current - I excluded Solich's first year in 1998):
Nebraska - 162-84; 1 national championship appearance, 1 top 5 finish, 3 top 10s, 10 top 25s; 4 losing seasons
Iowa - 143-97; 0 national championship appearances, 0 top 5 finishes, 5 top 10 appearances, 6 top 25 appearances; 4 losing seasons
Since 2004 (Callahan era to current):
Nebraska - 112-69; 0,0,0,6,4
Iowa - 111-68; 0,0,3,4,2
Since 2008 (Pelini era to current):
Nebraska - 85-47; 0,0,0,5,2
Iowa - 82-48; 0,0,2,3,1
Since 2011 (new B1G era to current):
Nebraska - 56-35; 0,0,0,3,2
Iowa - 54-37; 0,0,1,1,1
Since 2015 (Riley era to current):
Nebraska - 19-19; 0,0,0,0,2
Iowa - 28-12; 0,0,1,1,0
That's a fair look, not cherry-picked. The start dates aren't arbitrary. It doesn't exclude any good or bad seasons since Kirk started. So, what's the point you were trying to make again? Nebraska has been through 4 coaching changes since Kirk started, and has had better results prior to Riley taking over. With Riley included, Nebraska still has a slightly better record dating back to any date of significant change. Since Riley took over, Iowa has achieve a top 10 (#9/#10) finish and Nebraska has had two losing seasons. Nebraska is off the high of the program Osborne put in place and has averaged 8 wins a year since Solich was fired. Iowa has an almost exact match on win average over that same time. We both have won the division once since the new B1G started, Nebraska has an average finish in the division of 2.7, Iowa's is 4.0. Iowa has been more consistent as of late, although finished 4th in the B1G West last year.
Need to look deeper. Nebraska got where they are with consistent 9 win seasons. Iowa has many more 10+ win seasons, conference titles, major bowl appearances in same time frame but the 7-8 win seasons drag them back to a pretty much even record. I know which resume I'd rather have.
Thank you for making my point with all your research.....in the last 20 years Nebbie has be just as irrelevant (as Nebbie fans like to tag Iowa football) as Iowa. In a sense people could make the argument...more irrelevant because the young men that are being placed on the field have no earthly idea of Nebbie football other than the instability.
What is more comical is how high a seat that the Nebbie fanboys put Osborne. He was an unethical and law skirting man in charge(you don't want to try to defend him do you?)....and oh boy your present coach has a checkered past as a Nebbie player. Wonder why they are such good buds??? Pelini was the best coach Nebbie has had since the Big 8 and you and your fanboys ran him out of town because the unrealistic view that you corncobs have of Nebbie football. You will get blasted week in and week out this year...but the Nebbie fanboys and your coach have already vaguely made the excuses for that.
Guess you missed the part where the study spokeswoman said the players' conditions were in no way the result of anything any of them ingested or introduced to their bodies. You also must not have read the part about some of the doctors being angry that coaches weren't disciplined for having administered the workout. And yes, I will accept the credibilty of doctors from one of the most respected medical institutions in the world over a douchebag troll on a rival team's message board.
Again, what are you a doctor of?
They cannot say that with certainty, as they don't know what substance was in them at the time of the workout, or further, what substance was in them 3 days before, etc.
You must have missed it. These were Iowa U doctors.
The fact that you’re insinuating numerous doctors and lab personnel covered up widespread steroid use in their report is disgusting. And utterly dumb. The bottom line in all this is that you can’t change the PROVEN fact that Tom Osborn was unethical and dishonest in how he handled the undescretions of his players. So, you’re throwing anything that you can find in response, both hoping that it’s mud and also that it will stick.
Would you say there is as little proof that Iowa players use steroids as there is in Frost hiding in a closet?
2 players getting rhabdo? Oregon also had 3 players come down with it after an intense workout a few months ago.
1...2...maybe 3...but 13? Whoa.
That will be your best and probably only dig at Scott Frost as a twenty-two year college student. Your material will be very limited to the point where you become tongue tied and just stay quiet. SF is the best head coach Nebraska has hired since Tom Osborne was the man. I’m very confident of this hire. Nebraska will be better rather fast, maybe much better.
What is with this "brother" nonsense. We hardly played what, 20 times in our entire history? We're barely third cousins twice removed at this point.
You're still the newbie to the B10 at this point, an afterthought to everyone else in the conference when they think rivalries. Nebraska turned its back on its history when they ran from their old conference with their tail between their legs
Again your accusations of why Iowa players got it shouldn't that apply to Nebraska as well? Doesn't matter if it's 1, 5 or 20. Point is don't throw stones in glass houses.
I don't believe every time a player contracts rhabdo, it's because of illegal PED use. But 13 players didn't all contract rhabdo after a workout simply because the workout was too intense. There's another factor in there that Iowa fans don't want to hear about.
Funny because it's been 6 years and never has anyone else alluded to it being anything else after test and investigation by professional medical personal. But yeah you keep up with your conspiracy theory narrative there Dr....
It's been 22 years since LP was pulled off of Kate by Frost, yet we have Iowa fans in this thread claiming SF hid in a closet without a single credible source.
Mods, please ban this PilotDoctor dude His slanderous accusations that University of Iowa doctors and Lab Techs would conseal results from a drug screen is irresponsible and unethical.
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