And how much do you wanna bet that the whole altercation was somehow related to a woman, i.e. horniness? If there's one thing that never changes about the college bar scene, its the presence of the douchers who always wanna start fights when they can't get laid.Looks like the guy in cowboy boots.
It was really really really bad in the late 1980s. At one time there wasn't a toilet or urinal..just a drain in the floor and the pee splattered like crazy.I am actually bummed it's gone. My freshman year college roommate owned it around 2000 when I was up there. He had it cleaned up, including the bathrooms. I would have loved to go in for a beer and a slice.
Hope the MMA boys enjoy their time in the Oklahoma State Pen because that's where they are heading. Threw the first punch, unprovoked, and no, a little touch if the shoulder doesn't count, and had access to the door to leave or were blocking the exit. Get ready for this clip to get filmed over and over at both the criminal and civil trials.
Nah...cannot say unproved. There is more to the video that wasn’t shown. They’ll plead down..maybe a weekend in jail...but legends on OU campus for the foreseeable future.Hope the MMA boys enjoy their time in the Oklahoma State Pen because that's where they are heading. Threw the first punch, unprovoked, and no, a little touch if the shoulder doesn't count, and had access to the door to leave or were blocking the exit. Get ready for this clip to get filmed over and over at both the criminal and civil trials.
I was there '88 to '92. It was really fuggin bad then. Pretty much had to hold your breath while standing in a half inch of piss and puke. That said, the slice and a Coke for $1.50 at 2am was money!It was really really really bad in the late 1980s. At one time there wasn't a toilet or urinal..just a drain in the floor and the pee splattered like crazy.
Which door were they using to leave the bathroom? The one the MMA guys were in front of? They did not have access to an escape route. They couldn't have just left.That wasn't a touch of the shoulder. The OU boys could have left but they chose unwisely. They need to learn some manners and not touch someone else. Mess with the bull...
Don't think you understand the power of that video and how it is everywhere. You think a DA can just let this slide or plead it down. The beatdown was excessive and brutal and all on video. Those MMA guys are going to be made an example of. This isn't just going away.Nah...cannot say unproved. There is more to the video that wasn’t shown. They’ll plead down..maybe a weekend in jail...but legends on OU campus for the foreseeable future.
Now I really don't believe it. If it was Ed Horton that would have been the Royce Alger, Rico Chiparelli, Marty Kistler, Brad Penrith, and Kevin Dresser, and Duane GoldMan Years. I don't see Ed Horton intimidating Alger, GOldman, and Kisler. If it was off season Goldman (who was National Champ) weighed around 215. I knew Alger..he was batshit crazy...no way he'd back down. I don't believe the story. The Iowa wrestlers, especially in those years, were quite trouble. I'm not saying Ed Horton wouldn't hold his own. But I am convinced those wrestlers in that time period would never back down. Goldman would have Horton in an arm-bar in about 15 seconds. Not buying it.I’ve only heard the stories second and third hand, but the determining factor was Ed Horton. No one wanted to tangle with Ed so the wrestlers smartly moved on and peace was restored to the universe.
Now I really don't believe it. If it was Ed Horton that would have been the Royce Alger, Rico Chiparelli, Marty Kistler, Brad Penrith, and Kevin Dresser, and Duane GoldMan Years. I don't see Ed Horton intimidating Alger, GOldman, and Kisler. If it was off season Goldman (who was National Champ) weighed around 215. I knew Alger..he was batshit crazy...no way he'd back down. I don't believe the story. The Iowa wrestlers, especially in those years, were quite trouble. I'm not saying Ed Horton wouldn't hold his own. But I am convinced those wrestlers in that time period would never back down. Goldman would have Horton in an arm-bar in about 15 seconds. Not buying it.
Which door were they using to leave the bathroom? The one the MMA guys were in front of? They did not have access to an escape route. They couldn't have just left.
LOL of course. You guys really are stupid. No judge or jury would see the MMA bros as defending themselves after watching it all. A punch or shove back? Sure. Full on assault, choking, and breaking an eye socket isn't equal to a shoulder shove you idiots.
Yep. That's their side and the other side of him being a peacemaker is also not the truth. So it is probably somewhere in the middle where both parties are somewhat responsible for it and the escalation. So charge them all or charge none of them and throw out any BS civil suit.Sure.
The Iowa Wrestling program has really changed for the better. Had a buddy that attended Iowa in the 1980s along with my brother. They said the Wrestlers were dreaded out in public. When a group of wrestlers would walk into a bar they would leave.Totally agree, there’s no way a wrestler backs down from Ed. Back in the 80’s there were the tough man contests at Vets. The wrestlers totally dominated. There were guys with boxing backgrounds and the wrestlers would take them down and beat the hell of them. You absolutely don’t mess with wrestlers.
Hope the MMA boys enjoy their time in the Oklahoma State Pen because that's where they are heading. Threw the first punch, unprovoked, and no, a little touch if the shoulder doesn't count, and had access to the door to leave or were blocking the exit. Get ready for this clip to get filmed over and over at both the criminal and civil trials.
Yes I agree here. But the guy isn't going to go to prison for this. He might do some jail time but its not like hes going to end up on death row. Every day somewhere , somebody gets their ass kicked like this. A beloved kick holder gets beat up and people act like the perp should get the electric chair.If I’m a juror, I’d need to hear the legal arguments either way. That said, I would like to show this to all would-be tough guys in HS and college.
Just don’t. Walk away. You don’t know who you’re battling and there’s always someone more badass than you.
I'm guessing this was a provoked incident. That mitigates the punishment significantly.They didn’t throw the first punch. Only the first in that video. I’m curious what other videos are out there.
The guy already had a bloody nose, and the guy filming essentially called this round 2.
The video didn't really catch the fight/knockout just the aftermath of the big dude being knocked out and getting stomped and punched after he is down and then people attending to him.I remember a video from a street fight in Austin. Probably a 6’5” 320 offensive lineman pushed a chick and a smaller guy with MMA background just destroyed him
I wouldn’t mess with anyone. Just not worth it. Thankfully I am pretty chill and have not been into too many situations as such
I'm guessing this was a provoked incident. That mitigates the punishment significantly.
I do think it is a bit funny this has gone viral and they keep referring to these guys as football players in a way that infers they were much bigger like linebackers or DTs. They were basically just taller and in good shape...but in no way were they intimidating big guys anymore than say Tom Brady is an intimidating big guy.
The buddy in the jean jacket got plenty of it too. The worst thing is the hepatitis they're all going to catch from that piss-covered floor.
Another funny thing is he did not shove him. That was his "buddy" hiding behind him who then got restrained and offered no help.
Yeah-but I have also seen a million of drunk 18-30 year olds with similar beer muscles before. To me the video is more akin to the very common douchey college fraternity choads who thought they were tough getting their ass kicked by a couple of townies at a local bar. It's not that surprising or amazing as opposed to a video that instead had the two guys from the Shire throwing around a linebacker, big running back, tight end etc.While you and I know that, someone needed to tell it to the FB players. They seemed to think they were tough guys.
Assuming the wrestlers cleaned house? Although the reach of some of the BB players would have been hard to overcome.
The buddy in the jean jacket got plenty of it too. The worst thing is the hepatitis they're all going to catch from that piss-covered floor.
You believe the comments section? Please don't.Reading the comments in the story from the school newspaper, it definitely sounds like the fball players started it.
The guy who was first punched look to be the mediator between the guy who punched him and the guy behind him who gave a little shove to the MMA guy. The MMA guy thought it was the guy in front of him (it was not) so he fought him. That's my take.Everyone is saying that ass beating was too excessive
I say why dont people keep their hands to themselves
Now I really don't believe it. If it was Ed Horton that would have been the Royce Alger, Rico Chiparelli, Marty Kistler, Brad Penrith, and Kevin Dresser, and Duane GoldMan Years. I don't see Ed Horton intimidating Alger, GOldman, and Kisler. If it was off season Goldman (who was National Champ) weighed around 215. I knew Alger..he was batshit crazy...no way he'd back down. I don't believe the story. The Iowa wrestlers, especially in those years, were quite trouble. I'm not saying Ed Horton wouldn't hold his own. But I am convinced those wrestlers in that time period would never back down. Goldman would have Horton in an arm-bar in about 15 seconds. Not buying it.
This story has been around for 32 years. It wasn't the whole team, it was a few guys from each team.Now I really don't believe it. If it was Ed Horton that would have been the Royce Alger, Rico Chiparelli, Marty Kistler, Brad Penrith, and Kevin Dresser, and Duane GoldMan Years. I don't see Ed Horton intimidating Alger, GOldman, and Kisler. If it was off season Goldman (who was National Champ) weighed around 215. I knew Alger..he was batshit crazy...no way he'd back down. I don't believe the story. The Iowa wrestlers, especially in those years, were quite trouble. I'm not saying Ed Horton wouldn't hold his own. But I am convinced those wrestlers in that time period would never back down. Goldman would have Horton in an arm-bar in about 15 seconds. Not buying it.
The buddy in the jean jacket got plenty of it too. The worst thing is the hepatitis they're all going to catch from that piss-covered floor.
The irony is your statement here also applies to the MMA trained guys. In fact, it's like I have to quote SpiderMan here, "with great power comes great responsibility." The simple fact these guys were trained in combat sports means they shoulder a greater burden of responsibility here.Just don’t. Walk away. You don’t know who you’re battling and there’s always someone more badass than you.
As Jones was peacocking puffing his chest out, MMA slapped his left cheek before crushing his right with a hook. Having quick reflexes does not make it a cheap shot.He looked away and caught him by surprise. Call it what you like.
One was trained in MMA and the other trained in laces-out. Same-same!The simple fact these guys were trained in combat sports means they shoulder a greater burden of responsibility here.
All I'm saying is that from a legal perspective what happened here was felony assault and it is all on camera. The MMA guys were trained in combat and knew going into the altercation what they were capable of doing.
I realize it's all fun and games watching somebody get their ass whooped but there are some real teaching moments here. Like the story in the post above about the big guy accidentally killing somebody in a fight and going to prison. If you are trained in combat sports and know you can handle yourself and probably have the upper hand in an altercation, just because you can whoop ass doesn't mean you should do it. In fact, it's probably more your responsibility to avoid conflict because of what you are capable of doing.One was trained in MMA and the other trained in laces-out. Same-same!
Nah bro. Sometimes shit just needs its ass kicked.Society would be best served if all four of the combatants got some time in county for that. Just fugging dumb.