Iowa should always get some great PA kids. Theres just so many of them so if they are a top program then they should expect to be able to get them. PSU cant get them all.
Penn st has 15 guys in the starting lineup from PA? Impressive
I havent seen a drop off yet but you could be right.Maybe it's getting tougher to recruit guys when you're a robot who doesn't take interviews or open up the room to media.
Iowa has 5 starters from PA. You then claimed Penn st has 3 times as many. Now if my math checks out that’s 15 starters. Don’t forget to rub the bald ones head before leaving.
You do understand that a TEAM consists of 10 starters and a shitload of OTHER GUYS right? Right?
I'm sure Iowa feels better than PSU, who also has very few Pennsylvania starters, and loses their in-state recruits to Iowa. Iowa has no problem getting quality in-state recruits and only lost Teske to PSU (and look how that worked out). People should focus on the fact the best wrestling school of the decade only has 2 Penn starters, and lost on Teasdale, Lee, Murin, and lots of other quality talent to other schools....
Oh I know that. I’m having a hard time remembering. What’s the name of this thread?
Negative. Most of the talent is closer to young guns. I know you and your cronies would have everyone believe the real talent is on the other side of the state but everybody knows that’s just not true. So unless these families all of a sudden move out that way for Taylor’s club ( or be willing to drive a lot farther at least), I don’t see him matching or surpassing what stritt has accomplished. Plus, David Taylor is an attention whore whose aspirations, I’m sure, we’ll exceed that of a lowly (no offense to hard working club coaches out there) club coach. He’ll be like Edgar Snyder at best...the face of the club but never present. That won’t be enough. Taylor will probably coach college when his freestyle career is over anyway. The hell are you talking about?
Well....you might want to take a look at intermats top 20 rankings for each weight class then. The way I'm seeing it....over 83% percent of those PA kids that are ranked are nowhere near a young guns club. In fact, are any of them ranked even a member of young guns? Hillegas maybe. Maybe the kid from Dubois.
Yeah, except I live here in SW pa. You’re some special kind of stupid. Tell me, who are the top dogs from the central and eastern parts of the state from the past several years that you speak of...since it changes from year to year? You won’t come up with names like Spencer Lee, Vincenzo, nolf (getting closer to central), nico or further back with Moore or Kolat and countless others. Who do you have, Marsteller? Joke. No, bud you don’t know anything about PA wrestling. You mention hillegas...pretty sure he was with quest for years maybe mixed in some young guns but I never saw him. Throw out some studs that even come close to the ones I mentioned. Hell, name one. But yeah, David Taylor is going to have a club that rivals young guns in the next few years. You get credit for the 83% references but you still fail because you’re a troll on the wrong board who’s too ignorant to realize that the young guns’ locations are in the hotbed of young Pa wrestling talent with a terrific coach. If DT opened a club up here, maybe it would contend but as it stands there’s no way.
Who said anything about the past few years? The western part of the state had a nice run for awhile but before that it was the central part and east. Its now trending that way again. The current rankings show that. Its cyclical....always has been and always will be. Or hell...maybe I just imagined it was the Eastons, Nazareths and Bald Eagle Areas of the state dominating things out there.
Yeah, good catch and obviously I forgot Drew Foster from UNI. I was thinking of kids that we really wanted from a recruiting standpoint. Unless I’m mistaken these kids were under the radar and it was hard to predict they would end up having that kind of success.
Yeah I’d agree with that. Can you imagine the depth we’d have at the upper weights if they were with team?
Zain, Ruth and Oliver do not equal nolf, cenzo and Lee. Not even close in high school. Especially not Ruth. College, yes. Ruth was something like 6th and 4th at states in PA and didn’t even really blossom until he went to Blair, which is New Jersey. We’re talking high school here...nolf had one loss, Lee had one loss and Oliver (despite being very elite) almost tripled their losses in high school alone. And zain was very good but he missed a year and has some losses young. They’re not equal at all. And I’ve spoken with Jody plenty of times and I wouldn’t have the gaul to put words in his mouth like you have. I’ve never had a convo with him on this subject but maybe one day I will. The talent in PA is always superb but the most elite stand out in the west. Sorry. You say you live here? Then you already know that. There aren’t a lot of Lee’s and kolat’s but guess where they’re from? That’s right...SW pa. But this is an Iowa board so let’s talk about Iowa and how they’re going to win NCAA’s this year...or maybe you’d care to wager something significant since we live so close to one another? I could meet you at young guns “headquarters” with cash in hand. Let me know, Charlie Brown. And one last thing, you should learn to be a good winner and loser. Penn state isn’t number 1 this year so what? You shouldn’t make an extra account just to come over here and rub people the wrong way. Says a lot about the type of person you are.
Considering two of the very best to come out of Young Guns went to PSU, I'd say your comments here border on insanity.
Quit assuming I put words into anyones mouth. Spoke to Jody about this exact topic at an event a couple years ago. Pat was there as well....he was a neighbor of mine at the time. Busy day so I'll have to reply later to the rest of that mess you just posted. Actually have to figure out wth youre talking about in regards to colleg or highschool accomplishments. Just assumed you meant college considering HS 4 timer Marstellar is a joke to you. Ill dig into it though but do suspect Ill match wrestler for wrestler there as well. The central and eastern parts of the state dominated brackets throughout the history of PA wrestling. To be honest, through most of it, Bedford, Cambria and Somerset counties where we are from was an afterthought for most of people outside of the area Haselrig was a beast but most years we'd get excited because a guy like Kaltembaugh (may he RIP) would break through. You had your Easters, Beaujons, the Warnicks but they were few and far between for stretches. Nicky Roberts (may he RIP) was probably the best HS wrestler from the area unless you wanna go way back then I'd say Jan Clark from Northern Bedford.
Of course they are gonna get a lot of Young Guns kids it is in your state. But, if there was an Iowa club as good as PA Young Guns and any of the kids went to PSU it would bother me. Let alone a pipeline of them with more and more bound to with Spencer's influence. Why do you think PSU obsesses about anti-recruiting Iowa in their pitches to any kid that has Iowa in their schools? Giving power point presentations and custom videos on the subject to the kid and their parents. He knows this is an issue. He left Iowa because he couldn't beat Brands at recruiting in Iowa. Now he moved half way across the country and he is dealing with it again. It may be hard to think of Iowa as this, but we are a sleeping giant and if they get on a roll with the new super recruits it will be hard to stop.
Wrestling is still considered a "niche" sport and the high school talent over the years has been somewhat localized. Talent wise, there has been a bit of an improvement in some parts of the country, but there are still many States/areas where high school wrestling is pretty weak, imo.
