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How in the hell did you forget to mention Cory Clark? lol
Tea leaves say Teske to PSU
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How in the hell did you forget to mention Cory Clark? lol
I'm simply telling you that the seller (coach) of the 2nd home has the right to ask you to make an immediate decision on his offer before you visit the next house. The buyer (wrestler and family) has the right to say NO and walk away. There are no guns being pointed at anyone, so whose rights are being taken away?
Edit to add that if the tactic had a negative ROI, no one would do it. No one does anything that hurts their long term value. You may not like the imagery of ultimatums, but coaches are hired for results and nothing else. The "we are here to develop fine young men and women" is just an image to take away the thought of how the sausage is made. Now for many coaches, they also want and do develop fine young men, but the paycheck depends on winning.
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He was part of the Etc
Carl will hose Teske and he will end up back at ISU in a few years all so Iowa can't have him. Thats the power he has and the type of recruiting he will do to ensure he stays on top.
I’m simply saying, have you ever bought or tried to buy a house where the owner or the selling realtor said if you don’t make an offer now and decide to look at other houses we will no longer be willing to let you buy ours. Again your analagy is ridiculous.
Just 2 examples:
One staff said, "We have offers out to you and these 3 others around the same weight... We are taking the first 2 to commit."
Another coach offered and made sure that we knew that it was there until we made a decision. No deadline though he did ask if the kid was ready to commit what seemed like every 5 minutes.
I had no problem with either approach.
Now the seller may choose to set a deadline or take another's offer but no seller has any business telling a buyer to make a decision before visiting another house as any interest/planned visits to another house by the buyer is not the seller's business.
That's ridiculous. The seller and the buyer have every right to make any demands they choose, just as the seller and the buyer have every right to spurn said demands.
I don't see anything particular wrong w the take it or don't method. Awful lot of butt hurt this week on HR
Must be a darn good offer to keep recruits from doing exactly this.
bb is right that it is not a perfect analogy, and you are also right that the seller has every right to make any demand they want including telling the buyer they can't look at another house.
The problem with the analogy is that the house seller usually really wants to sell their house, and don't have a lot of competing offers. So, while they could make such a demand it would probably never happen.
Cael has the same right to make these kinds of demands. The difference is that he has the power, and flexibility to do so. He doesn't need Teske that much. Next year he'll be returning 4 national champions and likely the NCAA team champion for the 7th year out of the last 8. He only needs Teske for a stop gap 1 year until he gets a bigger fish like McHenry.
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You are right. The seller has every right to say "make an offer on my house before you look at another or I won't sell it to you."
Problem is they say that about as much as "hop on one foot and pat your head before buying my house."
And both are equally ridiculous.
we are as ridiculous as others will tolerate.....this applies to most things.
You guys have the house thing backwards IMHO.
The recruit is the house and Cael is the buyer. He says, I will make this offer and you have until midnight (or whenever) to accept. If you have other people look at the house, I am not buying.
We just sold a house a few years ago and the buyer made an offer. We counter offered and they just walked away and bought another house. I guess they made a Cael offer. Take it or leave it, but they did not tell us that.
This is textbook negotiating. Buying a house is something most people understand and is a decent example. The coach and or recruit can be the House or buyer. Whoever cares the least and or has the most to offer is in a position to pull this type of tactic. I doubt he tried this with Mark Hall.
There is nothing wrong with it by the book but not really a way I would want my kid treated by a guy who is going to be taking care of him the next 4-10 years
I can't support any coach that treats choosing a college like buying a used car. To make the best choice, high school wrestlers should explore ALL their options before committing to a college. Any coach who wants to short-circuit that process shouldn't be coaching. All wrestlers should say NO and walk away.
I'm not sure if Carl is smart enough to come up with this strategy, but his sneaky brother Cody is..... he's a little weasel
Teasdale, RBY, J. Lee, Wittlake, Beard, & Nevills isn't exactly nothing on signing day.
I had to read most of the thread to find out the source of this "white lie", but here it is...and somehow it has become the truth without a stitch of proof. Truly amazing.
No, but let him go. He is about to tell everybody about how the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
Well, Ohio State is most definitely a bigger concern than Iowa. Okie State has moved closer to the Nits then the Hawks.
It isn't exactly the same, but neither is today's wrestling environment.
It is the Gable model made to fit today. If any of these guys knew Gable they could ask him.
Could be that. I believe it's because the Lions are top dog.The optimist in me wants to believe it’s because Tom is a former Hawk and even though he’s not in Iowa fans still want to see their former guys do well but I’m just spitballing
No I do not peep into windows. Remember. I am locked in my room in my mom's basement.
For the guy who claims the insider tag, there are people on BWI waiting for a photo of you and coach smith.
Know a whole heck of a lot more about what was happening within the hawkeye program and Gable’s techniques and philosophy than you could ever begin to. I was there, were you? Still can’t understand your fixation with Iowa’s board. Don’t you have any friends on your own? Don’t they like you there. I wouldn’t know since I have never had the desire to visit your board and never will.
Can I make an inference of proof? Our media seemingly does it everyday.
Explain why Teske dropped his visit to UI but not ISU at the last minute. I think the white lie is a plausible explanation for this occurrence until we have evidence to the contrary.
i wouldn't buy a house from carl . . or a car . . . or a life insurance policy
Gable had 3-4 less top 10 pfp in his starting lineups . . . Gable didn't have the money to lock up his assistant coaches for decades . . . Gable told Alan Fried he wasn't interested after he brought in Tom Brands . . . Cary Kolat would have crawled to Iowa City but we passed . . . Gable turned Jordan Conaway and James English level wrestlers into national champs
Go ahead and celebrate, but don't drag Gable down to the Calipari/Saban/Sanderson level.
Gable had 3-4 less top 10 pfp in his starting lineups . . . Gable didn't have the money to lock up his assistant coaches for decades . . . Gable told Alan Fried he wasn't interested after he brought in Tom Brands . . . Cary Kolat would have crawled to Iowa City but we passed . . . Gable turned Jordan Conaway and James English level wrestlers into national champs
Go ahead and celebrate, but don't drag Gable down to the Calipari/Saban/Sanderson level.
