So we can just make up our own data to fit our fancy.
Who still believes Covid didn’t come from a lab?
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Actually, pretty damn high, when you build that lab next to one of the bigger wet-markets in China, which happens to be where other coronaviruses were documented to have originated.
It's like building an ocean lab on the ocean. And it's magically more likely to incur a hurricane because of where you built it.
Sources vetted by China
If you want to believe what the CCP is feeding you...so be it.
You are also ignoring 1 key fact and australian scientist who was working at the lab and said no one at the lab was sick during that time.
Yup. Apparently.
Despite eyewitnesses who worked with Wuhan lab employees, and interacted with many of them in December 2019 and reported NO odd evidence of any outbreak among them.
That's an inconvenient fact that none of the lab leak hypothesizers want to deal with.
Nope. An Australian.
Who testified to those facts over a year before anyone was investigating origins at the lab.
Why was Trump such a pussy and let Fauci and the Chi Coms kill so many Americans?
I trust our own government about as much as I trust China’s.
how close are these 2 exactly. you act like they are exactly next door. They are 10 miles away.
No
An Australian scientist who happened to be an a meeting with many of the Wuhan scientists in December, 2019. Allegedly 1 month AFTER the lab-leak would have occurred.
She was interviewed by a newspaper in 2020 or 2021 (before anyone was pointing at lab origins) and explained NONE of her colleagues from there were sick, nor were they reporting anything unusual. For a virus that can spread w/o symptoms, you would have expected AT LEAST ONE of those workers at a meeting, to have brought Covid, to the meeting. But we got nuthin'.
Which even the Chinese said is wrong. Three scientists were sick at the time. The difference is the explanation for why they were sick.
You really can just manipulate any information the way you want it huh . . .
3 scientists went to the hospital a month before the outbreak, could have just been food poisoning. None of their acquaintances or the hospital became an epicenter, which again if they were sick you would have expected the hospital to become covid zero.
And the lab areas DID NOT show outbreaks in the early going.
If the lab was the source, and someone from the lab went to the wet market to spread it, you'd have seen TWO source-bubbles of infections. That's not what has been identified. And to cover that up, you'd have to shutter info from a rather wide area around that lab. Along with magically preventing ANYONE from the lab going to a December 2019 meeting from spreading it at the meeting. Before anyone even KNEW it could spread asymptomatically.
If someone can come up with a plausible explanation of how this could have happened, I'm all ears here. But if the lab had an outbreak, SOME of those workers going to meetings would have had to have spread it outside Wuhan at that time. Which did NOT happen.
And if they DID "go to the hospital" for Covid, and not "flu" or something else, WHY/HOW did those hospitals avoid subsequent outbreaks? Those SHOULD have then become epicenters. They simply were not.
that is entirely inconsistent with how we know Covid spread back then.
EDIT: And understand here, even China did not know how it spread back then - NO ONE knew you could be an asymptomatic carrier for many months. There is simply no way they could possibly have gamed this out.
Absolutely.
And there is zero evidence this happened. And it WOULD HAVE HAPPENED if they had Covid and were at those hospitals.
The amount of coverup would have been insane trying to eliminate any infection from a neighborhood of the clinic, of acquaintances of staff or the hospital. China wouldn't have been smart enough or able to have scrubbed all of that.
You don't think the CCP has control over access to a facility like the Wuhan lab? How cute.
If you are china... yes.... if you are the United States and have an actual obligation to not be a piece of shit to the rest of the globe... no.
It's ****ing unbelievable how head up the ass some of these guys are.
What does this have to do with the evidence presesnted, which is entirely inconsistent with your hypothesis?
3 workers were alleged to have been "ill" and gone to the hospital in the month before (when you are claiming the lab leak occurred).
Those hospitals HAVE TO BE epicenters under that hypothesis.
The Australian colleague met with many of them at a conference 1 month later, in December. From what we know of Covid, SOMEONE who came from the lab would likely have already been a carrier. Yet NO ONE at that conference got sick. No one any of those researchers interacted with got sick. And this lady reported that they had not conveyed anything unusual at the time.
If there were people at the lab getting sick, they'd have presumed it was just "flu" at the time, and they wouldn't have felt any need to hide it from her. No one knew it was something novel at the time; that was not known until late December/January.
This is all inconsistent with a "lab leak" in November, which is when the original cases were hypothesized to have sprung out at the wet market.
What explanations do YOU have for these outlying facts that are entirely inconsistent with Wuhan lab being the outbreak source?
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Whiskey its fairly simple, just show how the outbreak emanated from the lab. It is fairly easy, scientist get sick, gets spouse, or dad sick, gets hospital staff sick. People in the neighborhood get sick.
They simply would not have known even HOW to "scrub" all that at the time.
No one knew it was a respiratory-transmitted (and highly infectious one) at the time. We learned that 3-6 months later.
Once China learned that, they started welding housing complexes shut to minimize the spread. If they knew that from the beginning, you would have never even heard about "3 guys from Wuhan lab" falling ill. They would have had "traffic accidents" or fallen out a window or something
You guys are saying the country with 245 cameras foe every 1000 citizens wouldn't have had information.
You guys are ****ing idiots.
You guys are ****ing idiots.
show the proof that the scientists were carriers and infected other people? This is what you believe right?
How many "cameras" does it take to assess the infectiousness of a novel respiratory virus?
10? 100? 1,000,000?
No.
Not even close.
I'm of the belief 1 of 2 things happened.
They were developing a bio weapon and someone let it out in its early stages as a way of advance notice.
Or
It became so infectious something carried it outside the lab. Possible scientist, but again, you really think China was going to give the world a patient zero?
Not a chance in ****.
As stated they wouldn't or could have scrubbed the addresses prior to releasing the info which most of it was coming out relatively early. They were just trying to manage the crisis.
Say thr China shit Joe.
There isn't a red blooded American that would have a problem saying **** China and that kiddy diddle leader of theirs.
It's fascinating how the same half dozen morons start a thread like this about once every 3 months. Then they get ponded with actual facts and retreat for a bit, only to show up again acting like they know their asses from a hole in the ground this time.
This is laughably inaccurate.
When a sick person goes into the hospital with a respiratory illness, the hospital workers wear protective gear. Why would this be a spreading location?
Have you ever sat next to someone at work who was coughing and then a few days later you get sick, and so does your family? This is how viruses spread.
Why do you think the rest of your coworkers don't get sick every time someone comes to work sick. (Viruses don't spread the way you claim).
The reason this did not spread at the lab is because the lab is huge, the lab is made up of lots of smaller labs that are all conducting different research. Scientistsalso wear protective gear when working with viruses and have hoods to control airflow. Scientists generally do not all hang out in a common area, so there is very little risk for spread.
Hospital workers do not regularly wear masks, even in china. Also other individuals in the hospital would have not been wearing masks. The scientists went out together, verified by the Australian scientist. Then they would have spread it to their families. There is no proof this occurred. FYI coworkers do get sick, you ever seen a cold or a flu go through a workplace or school. You are ignorant on how an air born virus is transmitted. Its like talking to 3rd graders.
WFT difference does it make? Hilary's emails. Benghazi. Hunter's laptop. Wingnuts need unwinnable issues to bitch and whine about since they're incapable of accomplishing shit.
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