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Best I can tell, nobody that didn't wrestle varsity last year is listed. Warner isn't either.
I don't think they are ranking anyone in their first year of college, be it red shirt or true freshmen. Not a slight to Warner at all.Doesnt really matter what Flo predicts but ya pretty much no love for Mr Warner Chief. Cancelling my sub when the season starts.
Jr Worlds right around the corner please help Jim at WFL.
I don't think they are ranking anyone in their first year of college, be it red shirt or true freshmen. Not a slight to Warner at all.
Thought he was referring to the WIN article.Nah...this was talked about today on FRL. They have Warner around 10th. Pyles did say that he thought Warner could be top 4 I believe.
Getting better but still a joke.
If not for Nickal I think Warner is a title contender, and would probably have picked him to win. But, you can’t really rank him too high yet with losses to Woodley, Brunner, Brucki, and Wilke last year. He’ll make his climb in the rankings quickly.Warner is at the bottom of the third tier IAW Flo (Nomad) as well. He better not win Junior Worlds...he might get bumped to 4th.
If not for Nickal I think Warner is a title contender, and would probably have picked him to win. But, you can’t really rank him too high yet with losses to Woodley, Brunner, Brucki, and Wilke last year. He’ll make his climb in the rankings quickly.
The tier thing wasn’t rankings...it was a loose this is where Nomad thinks they are at. He stated that he thinks Warner DNPs this year but makes a leap next year.
Yeah, I heard him say that. Is weed legal in Austin these days?
For sure, Warner has a lot to prove but most of the judgement comes from one tourney...Midlands. They are playing up the Nomad as Hawkhater on their show so who the heck knows.
No, but it's all over there.Yeah, I heard him say that. Is weed legal in Austin these days?
Don’t forget the group’s brilliant analysis on 157. They mention Early, Monday, Shields, Bleise, and Stroker (lol on this one) as guys they like and could see making jumps. Then they get to tier 5 with Kaleb Young and “don’t see anyone making a jump” out of that tier. The wrestlers they like all have one thing in common from this summer. They don’t hate Iowa. They just have a lot of bad takes.For sure, Warner has a lot to prove but most of the judgement comes from one tourney...Midlands. They are playing up the Nomad as Hawkhater on their show so who the heck knows.
For sure, Warner has a lot to prove but most of the judgement comes from one tourney...Midlands. They are playing up the Nomad as Hawkhater on their show so who the heck knows.
Don’t forget the group’s brilliant analysis on 157. They mention Early, Monday, Shields, Bleise, and Stroker (lol on this one) as guys they like and could see making jumps. Then they get to tier 5 with Kaleb Young and “don’t see anyone making a jump” out of that tier. The wrestlers they like all have one thing in common from this summer. They don’t hate Iowa. They just have a lot of bad takes.
I’m pretty sure Young beat Monday, Shields and Stroker Early this summer.
I’m pretty sure Young beat Monday, Shields and Stroker Early this summer.
They were not waiting for a "varsity" match to make a judgement. Redshirt record might not be official but those were real matches and the basis of where they placed Warner. Had he won them all he would be higher and had he lost them all he would be lower.Warner has to be considered second or third tier until he wrestles at least 1 real match. It’s logical.
Until he beats anyone on the varsity level, it’s wrong to name him king. I would imagine by the end of Midlands we have a real good idea where he stacks up in the second tier. No offense but Bo Nickal is the head of the class at that weight.
They didn't want Snyder repeatedly grabbing his snake bitten legs last year so I can see Stoll missing that match.The anti-Iowa shtick has been pretty funny. Nomad's tiers have been based on analytics versus their gut feel where they think guys will actually place. Warner had losses last last year and that's all he can go off of when he makes up the tiers. Everyone, including this guy, is excited to see him wrestle. My guess is a top 4 finish which would be impressive in that weight class as a freshman. I only saw him in action once, against Kerkvliet a couple years ago at the Christmas tournament, and he was outstanding. I'm so bummed that Kerk got so big because that would have been a fun rivalry in college. I'm curious where Steveson will fall in the tiers. He won a college tournament last year (the Dak which is nothing compared to Midlands) but it will be interesting to see where they put him.
I thought it was interesting that they don't think Stoll will face Steveson at the dual meet. That would really be a shame because it would be a match between the two best HWT's in Minnesota high school history and potentially the only time it would happen in the state (B1G's possibly). If he's not healthy by then, of course he shouldn't go. If he is healthy, it would be a shame for fans of the sport.
Remember when Fredy was a "must get"?
My thoughts...Warner had one bad day against some decent competition at Midlands. Admittedly I'd have liked to have seen him rebound better than he did, but I think that scenario is going to be one big-ass anomaly when it's all said and done.
And he did major Miklus, which is a good effort. His other loss was to Woodley of Oklahoma, whom he split with.
I don't think he's the 2nd coming, but he's going to be hell on wheels for the next 4 years.
It’d be hard to take offense to that. IMHOWarner has to be considered second or third tier until he wrestles at least 1 real match. It’s logical.
Until he beats anyone on the varsity level, it’s wrong to name him king. I would imagine by the end of Midlands we have a real good idea where he stacks up in the second tier. No offense but Bo Nickal is the head of the class at that weight.