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Look forward to seeing if Gunther can drag a good match out of Bron. If anyone can it's Gunther. Would love to see a Gunther vs Reigns matchup down the line.
Mox's mic popped me the hardest all night. We got two f-bombs and a JESUS CHRIST out of it. Go back and watch Bowens during the Acclaimed introduction, when he leans against the fans, nobody scissors him and I feel bad for him, lol.
The MJF/Bryan segment dragged on for me.
I enjoy what they're doing with Jade right now. Shida is obviously going to turn on Saraya and Toni and join Britt and Hayter so Saraya needs to call in a favor and POOF, newly signed Mercedes Mone is going to be their partner. Or Shida is going to take out Toni and they'll feud later, but Saraya still needs to get afka Sasha on her side.
Ricky Starks and Action Andretti could be the future, and I think Jericho knows that.
Really got the warm and fuzzies when Darby won, but good LORD they botched Wardlow, which is just true about anyone that they build up naturally. How do they do this EVERY time?! Daniel Garcia, Sammy Guevara (his own doing), 2.0 all cooled off by being aligned with Jericho. Shida, Thunder Rosa, Riho. Orange Cassidy, HOB they cooled off until Tommy End was like "no, I'm out" and now they're back but wtf are they even doing? There's a bunch more.
I prefer AEW but when they continuously botch people's arcs it makes it hard to invest. They feel like the Netflix of Wrestling right now. Get invested in a storyline just to have it cancelled after its best season without a conclusion (RIP 1899).
Tony's issues is bit of trying to make everyone happy. While having a case of adult attention deficit disorder. And as I said before don't let Slap Daddy book finished.
Talk to me like I'm 5. So does this mean the people running the show and the stories will be from Saudi Arabia? I can't imagine that will be ideal catering to American audiences. I realize it's not the same era but back when I watched consistently patriotic themes were common.
It would mean the checks would be from the Saudis. And most likely talent /creative would probably try not offend them. Sammy Zayn would certainly be in an interesting situation.
Last night the Twitterverse was imploding with the Saudi rumor (which also included them taking the company private with Vince back in control of the day to day and creative)...seems to be just a rumor today. Not saying it doesn't happen eventually, but if it does it's almost like Vince came back to ultimately watch it burn.
Feels as if he's come back to reverse every decent change Paul has made.
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Good, not great men's rumble imo. Cody was gonna be the obvious winner once Sami Zayn didn't enter. Hope Kofi wasn't hurt during his botched Rumble spot. First time seeing Logan Paul in action, dude was impressive.
Cody was going to win the Rumble because Sami's character didn't need it. With all of the hype videos about his return. Losing the Rumble would have really done damage to Cody. If I'm an established act I would not work with Lesnar. The guy doesn't seem to worry much at all about his partners well being. Those over head suplexs . Are going to paralysis someone.
I thought it was a good show, I think things people were disappointed over, were things that the internet kinda ran with that never had a credible chance of happening (Austin, Rock, NJPW, Sasha, Naomi not appearing).
I was thinking someone like Zach Ryder may have returned, or selfishly, was hoping we would of heard that New Day Theme a third time.
That Logan Paul/Ricochet spot is the new Edge's ladder spear on Hardy hanging from the belts highlight that will be shown for years.
The Sami/Bloodline story is the best I can recall in watching wrestling since the early 80's. It didn't/doesn't need the Rock, it is more compelling without him.
Really interested to see where it goes. The only danger I could foresee is the crowds turning on Cody/Roman mania main event if they feel Sami getting shortchanged, a la Daniel Bryan
Yeah, I could see that as a concern for Cody...but, it seems like Elimination Chamber in Montreal is going to be Sammi's chance? There has been talk of trying to get one of the belts off Roman before Mania, that would likely be the place for it to happen? I don't see Usos/Sammi and Owens being the next step with the way Jey left ringside, stuff to resolve there as well.
The long term story telling in this angle has been incredible, and the amount of heat all that got last night without blood, was pretty remarkable. I'm glad it didn't work for the Rock to return or be involved, this is better.
My guess is Main Event Jey is coming back. This isn't about family Cuz. It's all about Roman.
The Moxley vs Page match last night was one of the best I've seen in a while. Other than the segment on the ring apron where they went back and forth, it looked like a fight.
My guess is they are heading to an I quit or last man standing match. Possibly with barbwire.
I agree with you in general, but I definitely don't agree that Jericho is a/the problem. In some ways, I think Jericho is the MVP of the promotion. He's given the rub to so many guys, either by aligning them into his stable, or feuding with them, or flat out jobbing to them. He's jobbed to Indy darlings like Orange Cassidy and Eddie Kingston to give them credibility, and massively elevated guys like Garcia and Guevara. He's frequently kept 8-10 or more members of the roster occupied in meaningful angles for months at a time. All without having to have himself in the world title picture. I think he's been invaluable in terms of just giving tons of guys something to do that people can follow, and usually care at least somewhat about. Without Jericho's angles, you'd have even more people with nothing to do.
That said, they do have problems with the storytelling, I totally agree. I wonder if it's the indy influence on the roster, which maybe isn't as well versed in long term weekly or biweekly television storytelling, and is more accustomed to "what do we need to do to get to and vaguely justify the next 5 star match?"
Another problem, I think, is frankly AEW's "smart" fan base, and having to cater to them. It's incredibly difficult to get the crowd turned on anyone who can actually work, which is the majority of the roster. So the vast majority of the roster are some kind of tweeners. I mean, MJF is a A+++ heel, and you still had the crowd cheering him and against Moxley at Full Gear.
Jericho can heel when he's a heel, and Christian (whose addition I was massively dubious about) has been a lifesaver as a heel. Stokley and Ethan Page do pretty well, I'd be pushing Ethan Page to the moon simply because he's willing to be an actual heel.
But how the hell do you keep momentum up on wrestlers' arcs when almost everyone is a good guy, or kind of a good guy. I said it before, Hangman's title was the culmination of the best storytelling they ever did, and then his reign was totally ruined by booking his title defenses against super popular quasi-babyfaces.
Wrestlers like Adam Cole, Penta, Pac, Britt Baker, House of Black, Eddie Kingston, the Bucks, etc etc are constantly booked into heel angles while being incredibly over and pretty much refusing to play the heel. To me that really hurts storytelling quite a bit.
And frankly, some of it is on the wrestler's themselves, some of them just can't carry an angle on their own. I think this is one area where AEW overcompensates maybe from Vince McMahon's reluctance to give in to smarts. Sometimes I think AEW gets out ahead of its skis on some of these fan-driven pushes. Wardlow is a great example, he had awesome momentum, a great program working with MJF who is a genius, and then what do you do with a guy who can't or doesn't have anything to say, has a limited ring repertoire, and his entire gimmick is "being a beast." Yeah, AEW should have done better not to squander what they had there, he really hadn't developed a character.
Same thing with Thunder Rosa, and I really like Thunder Rosa. She's a great worker, and has an awesome look, but she can't talk and doesn't have a defined personality, and once you got away from Britt Baker carrying the angle, there was nothing there. The in ring work is pretty strong across the board, but some of these wrestlers need more training on the outside the ring aspect before they get pushed, or think about pushing people that are second rate workers, but know how to make people give a shit, like Eddie Kingston.
I'm finally caught up on AEW, and I have to say this is about the strongest they've been booked going into a PPV since probably last year's revolution? Three weeks out, and you can see we're headed to multiple blowoffs of storylines of varying lengths.
MJF-Danielson
Mox-Hangman, some kind of extreme match
Jericho-Starks
Wardlow-Joe
Britt/Hayter-Storm/Saraya
Acclaimed /Gunns...maybe a three way with FTR? Seems like it might be hard to stretch 3 more weeks
Friends/Sanjay Dutt crew (not sure that has legs for more weeks)
They need to quickly pull something together for the Elite to defend the tag titles, but otherwise that's as well as they've had a PPV card set up for a while. Last several PPV events have really felt largely cobbled together inorganically within weeks of the show. They've probably got to find slots for a couple more things, but that's the bones of a good build up.
Also, the match quality on TV the last few weeks has been excellent.
WWE my top two favorite storylines right now, but I just can’t watch. It’s a mental block I need to get over. The bloodline stuff and Cody Rhodes/Heyman/Reigns. I need to watch Raw but will probably just watch the highlights.
