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****2024-25 Chicago Bears Thread đź’©****

Yep. 3rd down defense was terrible all game. Disappointing season; but at least Williams is looking pretty damn good.
For me it is important that Williams has progressed during the season. Fingers crossed he keeps his focus for the rest of the season and a new staff is brought in to develop him. Fingers crossed Eberflus doesn't waste him physically
 
With no shot at the playoffs, this was actually the best outcome for the Bears.

1. Another loss—improved draft position, better chance for Flus to be fired

2. Caleb and Rome looked awesome

That’s basically what I want to see for the rest of the season.
 
With no shot at the playoffs, this was actually the best outcome for the Bears.

1. Another loss—improved draft position, better chance for Flus to be fired

2. Caleb and Rome looked awesome

That’s basically what I want to see for the rest of the season.
this

wins hurt us long term

Caleb looked great today, his confidence is growing
 
Ryan Poles and the McCaskey's will be able to turn this into a narrative about how the team is improving. It will be a moral victory. Honestly, as a fan a close loss doesn't mean much to me. I'd rather they had lost by 50 today, and fired Eberflus on the tarmac when the charter jet landed.
Hopefully that loss was embarrassing enough that they fire his ass tomorrow

Caleb is a stud. Give me Ben Johnson or Mike Vrabel next year.
 
Hopefully that loss was embarrassing enough that they fire his ass tomorrow

Caleb is a stud. Give me Ben Johnson or Mike Vrabel next year.
Take someone from the staff and make them the HC. Allow Moore to concentrate on the offense/Williams, and let Washington run the defense.
 
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For this year, yes.. but Id be okay if nobody on the coaching staff ever returned
That is fine, take what you can get out of this year, and you allow the coaches left to audition for new roles on new teams for next season. Develop Williams.
It's time to stop the bleeding.
 
I've posted this many times, the Bears feed a lot of hungry mouths. Nobody really knows the structure of the team, but the Bears are the sole revenue producer for the McCaskey's. It's four generations now, and a lot of the money the team generates is siphoned off to support Pappa Bear's heirs. Who has voices besides Virginia and her kids, nobody knows?
 
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The question is does Warren guide the hiring process, or does he let Poles do it alone? One issue the Bears have had over the years is hiring/firing coaches and GMs on different timelines. Best to clean sweep sometimes.
 
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The question is does Warren guide the hiring process, or does he let Poles do it alone? One issue the Bears have had over the years is hiring/firing coaches and GMs on different timelines. Best to clean sweep sometimes.
they did that last time when we got poles/eberflus.

Poles has done well enough that I'm okay with giving him a 2nd bite at HC. But his head's on the chopping block if they botch it.
 
Well, apparently Warren has been pushing for changes, so maybe he’s more involved than it appears. GMs usually get two coaches, so Poles better it right. Of course, the process that led to hiring Eberflus was dysfunctional
 
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Well, apparently Warren has been pushing for changes, so maybe he’s more involved than it appears. GMs usually get two coaches, so Poles better it right. Of course, the process that led to hiring Eberflus was dysfunctional
To me it isn't so much the hiring of Eberflus, it was the stubborn decision to keep with him. Poles likes to hang onto his mistakes as evidenced by Velus Jones.
 
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To me it isn't so much the hiring of Eberflus, it was the stubborn decision to keep with him. Poles likes to hang onto his mistakes as evidenced by Velus Jones.
The process was screwed up when they hired Eberflus, so not sure how it’ll look now, given Warren’s presence. Jones didn’t pan out, but it wasn’t like he was blocking some great talent from being on the roster. His draft’s have been fairly productive.
 
ESPN’s Courtney Cronin writes the Bears are hoping to interview Lions OC Ben Johnson and Commanders OC Kliff Kingsbury for their head coaching vacancy.
Interim coach Thomas Brown will also be considered and interviewed. The smoke tying Johnson to Chicago has already come on heavy after Matt Eberflus’ firing, with Adam Schefter reporting a belief that Johnson has interest in working with Caleb Williams. Kingsbury would be a more contentious pick as his passing offense has mostly backslid over the past month, but he does have experience developing good young quarterbacks.
 
ESPN’s Courtney Cronin writes the Bears are hoping to interview Lions OC Ben Johnson and Commanders OC Kliff Kingsbury for their head coaching vacancy.
Interim coach Thomas Brown will also be considered and interviewed. The smoke tying Johnson to Chicago has already come on heavy after Matt Eberflus’ firing, with Adam Schefter reporting a belief that Johnson has interest in working with Caleb Williams. Kingsbury would be a more contentious pick as his passing offense has mostly backslid over the past month, but he does have experience developing good young quarterbacks.
I’m not interested in kingsbury as HC. Has failed at Texas tech and Arizona in that capacity.

Johnson obviously is the hot name, Brown imo gets a 5 game audition. Strong finish would give him a good case.
 
Don't make this complicated. Hire Mike Vrabel.
No. As a fallback option, sure. But first choice needs to be someone with an offensive background to help the young qb.

The problem with hiring a defensive guy is that if he nails the OC hire, that guy likely moves on after a year or two and you have to start over again. Not to mention the bears just tried this with eberflus.
 
No. As a fallback option, sure. But first choice needs to be someone with an offensive background to help the young qb.

The problem with hiring a defensive guy is that if he nails the OC hire, that guy likely moves on after a year or two and you have to start over again. Not to mention the bears just tried this with eberflus.
Maybe, Dave Wannstaedt is on the Score a few times per week, and he discussed his own experience with this as a defensive minded HC who lost multiple OCs in the span of a few years. It happens, you have to build a framework and have an offense that isn't dependent purely on the OC. It's what we have with Kirk. No matter who the the OC is, the offense is... Well, consistent.
 
Maybe, Dave Wannstaedt is on the Score a few times per week, and he discussed his own experience with this as a defensive minded HC who lost multiple OCs in the span of a few years. It happens, you have to build a framework and have an offense that isn't dependent purely on the OC. It's what we have with Kirk. No matter who the the OC is, the offense is... Well, consistent.
Sure. On the other hand, wannstedt never had a franchise qb.

Defensive coordinators tend to emphasize their side of the ball first - understandably so to be sure, but you simply cannot build a contender without a franchise qb at the core of that framework.
 
ESPN’s Courtney Cronin writes the Bears are hoping to interview Lions OC Ben Johnson and Commanders OC Kliff Kingsbury for their head coaching vacancy.
Interim coach Thomas Brown will also be considered and interviewed. The smoke tying Johnson to Chicago has already come on heavy after Matt Eberflus’ firing, with Adam Schefter reporting a belief that Johnson has interest in working with Caleb Williams. Kingsbury would be a more contentious pick as his passing offense has mostly backslid over the past month, but he does have experience developing good young quarterbacks.
I'd be good with Johnson or Thomas Brown.
Vrabel would be option B.
No thanks in Kingbury, Bellichek or any of the college guys.
The only reason I'd lean Johnson over Brown at this point is bc the entire staff needs overhauled, and that isn't likely if Brown stays. Another year with Chris Morgan leading the oline would be criminal. He's awful.
 
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