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The noon games today are all garbage. Great games later. Bills-Lions, Steelers-Eagles, Bucs-Chargers, Packers-Seahawks are all good. I need to go on a beer run 🍺
That third round pick from Yale is yet another bust. Poles is awful. We were all hoodwinked by the Carolina deal. Poles is awful.
Yep, even with the windfall of back to back #1 picks Poles effed it up. Hell 90% of the armchair GMs could have hit a few homeruns with that haul and it doesn't look like he did.
Taking Wright at 10 last year was bad, he's mid tier at best with a low ceiling bc he's not athletic.
Pickens in the 3rd last year was bad, he's just a body.
Kiran A in the 3rd this year, awful. Zero experience against top competition, came pre injured, and he's put together frankly about like Ryan Poles.
Even Odunze at 10 this year looks like it was too high... Brian Thomas Jr at pick 23 looks better so far ainec.
I'm 100% all in on GM/coach reset and alignment.
Poles gets this hire to prove himself.
Caleb and Rome are solid picks.
They have 3 more picks in top 40 this year. Has to hit on linemen.
They have 6th most salary cap also.
This next season will be huge for bears and their execs.
I am all for biting the bullet and tanking to a top 5 pick.
Keep losing..but be competitive.
Caleb and Rome are solid picks.
They have 3 more picks in top 40 this year. Has to hit on linemen.
They have 6th most salary cap also.
This next season will be huge for bears and their execs.
I am all for biting the bullet and tanking to a top 5 pick.
Keep losing..but be competitive.
3 years in and I have no confidence he won't whiff on most of those opportunities. Draft and salary capital are only useful if the person making the decisions knows what he's doing. I don't think Poles does.
But here's the issue that isn't being discussed. When Poles was hired he'd only to report to George. Its why he took the job but not needing to work with a "middle management". Now, he has to report to Warren first before going to George. Plus Warren made it known that their partnership is now a collaboration instead Poles working solo (which Poles needs truthfully).
Does Poles wanna continue to work within that as his decisions are now gunna be double checked. He going to be a lame duck GM going into next year so with a new coach, that isn't ideal...unless the HC wants to bring in their own GM.
Its why I think Poles and Bears are going to "mutually part ways" once the season is done. They aren't going to extend him. His work in the trenches speak for themselves.
Caleb holds the ball wayyyyy too long. You could see this coming as that is how he played in college. Should have traded that #1 pick for a haul and still drafted Daniels or Nix, both who look better than Caleb.
I don't even know where to go from here now folks
Williams will have moments of greatness and then a few plays later looks like a middle school QB
OL is trash, we've already knew that months ago
WR group is solid, but it's hard to tell when balls are at their feet or over their heads
Rush D is terrible, lack run stuffers and physical DL
Pass D has been shockingly okay, but then again when you run D isn't good teams don't have to pass as much
Williams will have moments of greatness and then a few plays later looks like a middle school QB
OL is trash, we've already knew that months ago
WR group is solid, but it's hard to tell when balls are at their feet or over their heads
Rush D is terrible, lack run stuffers and physical DL
Pass D has been shockingly okay, but then again when you run D isn't good teams don't have to pass as much
Admittedly, i really liked the Keenan Allen trade; but I don't think they should resign him. He still plays the slot well and get's somewhat open; but he just looks slow to me, and the amount he will likely demand won't make sense for a #3 that primarily plays the slot. Too many holes on the OL and DL to spend too much more at WR.
Not much to add on the above as I agree with most of it.
Not much to add on the above as I agree with most of it.
That would be best case but I dont see it happening. If he's too proud to answer to Warren now, it shows how wrong he is for the job. Everyone has a boss. Either that boss is a football ignorant moron born into the job (mccaskey) or a guy like Warren who at least has been a high achiever in life and has a lot of NFL experience. I can tell you without a doubt I'd rather have Warren making final decisions than anyone with the last name mccaskey for the future of the Bears.
Nix just had 3 picks vs the Colts and has one of the best coaches of the last 20 years. Caleb would look like a God playing for him. I'm not sold on Daniel's yet. Mostly 1 read offense, running a lot and taking a lot of hits, and his accuracy is spotty as well. I still think Caleb was the right pick but coaching absolutely matters.
This remains the biggest obstacle for the Bears since Jim Finks left, no leadership. It's an iconic brand being led by a 100 year old woman, her four affable sons with a bunch of heirs, and a GM who might just be best suited to be a draft and cap guy. I still have hope that Warren has the mandate to make real changes independent of the feelings and emotions of the ownership. Which, nobody really understands. Sometimes I am not sure the family knows what their own structure is.
There remain far too many mouths to feed in the northern suburbs of Chicago.
So, a bad offensive line lost two starters in a game they were already down 20 points in. That seems like a Bears thing to do.
Yes, the Bears have 3 picks in the top 40 of the upcoming draft, and they have a lot of cap space, but today they had their original starting line intact for the first time in awhile. Only Darnell Wright is a given to return for 2025. Bates was coveted by Poles, but he is on the IR. Jenkins cannot stay healthy. Shelton is old. Pryor is a FA. And, Jones is sketchy. Probably best suited as a #3 OT.
If the Bears use all 3 of their first picks on the offensive line, they'll still be having to dig in the FA market for help.
Yes, the Bears have 3 picks in the top 40 of the upcoming draft, and they have a lot of cap space, but today they had their original starting line intact for the first time in awhile. Only Darnell Wright is a given to return for 2025. Bates was coveted by Poles, but he is on the IR. Jenkins cannot stay healthy. Shelton is old. Pryor is a FA. And, Jones is sketchy. Probably best suited as a #3 OT.
If the Bears use all 3 of their first picks on the offensive line, they'll still be having to dig in the FA market for help.
Shelton is only 29 and Pryor wasn't a starter until Davis was replaced.
That said, the bears need 3 new starters in the oline for 2025 and that's assuming they pick up Jenkins 5th year.
Need new LT, C, RG.
Poles told us he'd fixed the line. Ideally you want your QB on his rookie deal ascending with the team. Now year 2 will be used up with probably 4 new starters on the o-line. And, I am increasingly convinced that Poles cannot pick linemen.
The 3 top 40 picks or whatever they have will only be a 15% solution to their problems on the O-Line.
They need to use their salary cap much better then they have in the past. They can solve another 20% of their problems through free agency or trades.
Getting a coach that will change the culture will help significantly.
If a Stevenson trade could bring something in return they should eject him as the second step to change the culture.
Who does everyone think the next coach candidates will be?
They need to use their salary cap much better then they have in the past. They can solve another 20% of their problems through free agency or trades.
Getting a coach that will change the culture will help significantly.
If a Stevenson trade could bring something in return they should eject him as the second step to change the culture.
Who does everyone think the next coach candidates will be?
The problems are large, but I attribute a lot of the collapse to that one play by Stevenson. Not just that one game, but the cluelessness shown by Eberflus and Poles, and the reaction by teammates who took the reaction from Eberflus and Poles to mean nobody was in charge, and nobody cared. There should have been public accountability for that play.
Coaches? I have mentioned Liam Coen as an OC who could come in and develop Williams.
How many of those touchdowns came in the second half after the Bears had already dug themselves too big of a hole in the first half?
I think it’s adorable that Bears fans think CW is the franchise QB they’ve been looking for.
