Big Ten Finals(and 3rd/5th) discussion
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Yet another hawk to mff. Cass, of all of them this may look the worst.
I accidentally posted two posts in one. I thought i heard ironside say cass was going to MFF. If true i would assume it is to heal up but definitely disappointed in this trend
Damn, I love wrestling but these finals have kind of sucked.
we do a lot of it ourselves, but top stalling is out of control. spiral ride to the edge, push him out and then do it all over again on the restart. gotta do it because they don't call it and it's a path to victory, but not fun to watch. would be easily solved if the refs had some guts.
Love the Hawkeyes. Pumped that the Bull won his fourth. And yet. Watching Marinelli-Amine and Starocci-Massa back to back is a pretty good argument that the rules committee should go back to the drawing board. No shots in Bull's match until 14 seconds left. I get that he pushed the pace and that Amine was backing up the whole time. But there was no action to speak of except hand fighting. And there was essentially one shot in the entire Starocci match. Watching Massa ride Starocci for a minute and a half, and then watching Starocci ride Massa for two minutes, it was pretty unexciting stuff.
Starocci actually said he’s the best in the world. Dam if he isn’t confident in himself
Sure as hell don't want to debate this, but you miss the point. Should a wrestler thus be able to wear ANY t-shirt they want when representing the U if it's what they believe?? Now, back to wrestling.
Not surprising at all. No idea how his knee is, but he ain't beating GS and Iowa isn't winning a team title. Heal up and hope you get a chance to get worked by Gable in the NCAA Finals! 🙂 (with the caveat that Dan Gable got beat, if he can, anybody can, never say never)
I'd take a wild guess and say it's related to the big wrap on his knee against Kerk.
Sorry, but I strongly disagree. Starocci has the perfect stall ride and is exceptional at clinging just enough and letting the action get to the edge every time an escape is close. Massa moved hard the entire time and did a great job breaking hands but as soon as he cleared, Starocci was fantastic at coming back to a 2 on 1 on his left wrist.
Massa actually wrestled very well that match, it is just really hard to crack Starocci’s defense and wrist and ankle rides…
In the marinelli match you can’t shot if the other guys is constantly backing up not engaging!!!
Yeah I hear ya, just saying Bull leaving Iowa without his name on the wall seems odd to me. Given his dominance in every other format other than NCAA’s.
We often get frustrated about the way matches are won/lost, but the bottom line is coaches and wrestlers need to be wise about the way the rules are officiated. Hawks lose more frequently than I’d like when being the aggressor (or the superior wrestler), but their opponents are coached well to exploit the rules and minimize Hawkeye strengths. That’s just being smart.
I get the injury thing guys, this crap wasn't happening until just recently. New trend, not a good one.
Smiths, Brands, etc.. weren't pulling this crap.
Can you imagine Gable as the coach of these teams and his wrestlers MFF.
He's got to be mortified at what is happening to the sport.
Smiths, Brands, etc.. weren't pulling this crap.
Can you imagine Gable as the coach of these teams and his wrestlers MFF.
He's got to be mortified at what is happening to the sport.
Yes they should be able too. If it was a problem it would have been fixed three years ago!!!
I’d imagine it’s tnt making these decisions and that just shocks me to think about
don't think so. he hurt it against hillger and then had the wrap for the semi
His stall ride is impressive.
Any hint of the guy on bottom getting out and he just drags him to the edge and force OOB to get it back to the center and prevent the escape.
No real attempt to score from on top. Just drop on the guy and wear him down.
I think the riding aspect and its current relation to the stalling issues rampant in the sport is the hardest part for casual fans to get over when trying to gain an interest in wrestling.
You can call it smart if you want, but If the rules allow for a less superior wrestler to exploit them for a win, the problem is with the rules not the wrestler. Wrestling needs a few rule changes.
We saw this last March as well when a man with no ACL’s had to chase a quick Sun Devil all the back to Arizona just to secure a 7-0 victory.
They are often the worst round of every tournament. You get some great ones on occasion, but a lot of snoozefests relative to the rest of the tournament. Win by 1, win a Title.
I get it, but I would rather win by being wise than lose by keep the chip on my shoulder.
