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Who knows, there was obviously conversations. However she isn't the sharpest tool in the drawer and education and secondary education are far down her list of what she cares about. If an email or two came out that she thought this should be investigated or encouraged the investigation . . . lets just say things could get interesting. I can't remember who posted, but I do think someone within government or within DCI wanted to do this. Was it just a rogue agent? Based off the other DCI investigator, sounds like it goes farther up the chain. So where does it stop at?
C'mon dude. They are a government agency in the executive branch. Of course she's going to support them and their investigations - as would any good executive. But if wrongdoing is found - then she also has the responsibility to make sure it's looked into and problems are fixed. But that in no way indicates the states chief executive was directing what was largely a small-time investigation of some students/student athletes.

The idea she was behind the investigation or managed it is just pure fantasy - one you're gonna be disappointed with the ending as you obviously want to damage her in this somehow.
 
C'mon dude. They are a government agency in the executive branch. Of course she's going to support them and their investigations - as would any good executive. But if wrongdoing is found - then she also has the responsibility to make sure it's looked into and problems are fixed. But that in no way indicates the states chief executive was directing what was largely a small-time investigation.

The idea she was behind the investigation is just pure fantasy - one you're gonna be disappointed with the ending.
No I honestly could care less. What I am curious is how far did this go up the chain, and I am geniunely interested when she became aware of it. Whether before the geofencing occurred, further in the investigation, or after. Now there was already individuals including the gaming commissioner who said he had concerns. He quit his job. Then you have governor Reynolds giving her support. She "wholeheartedly" supported the investigation.

“They did the job. They received inquiries about an issue and they did what they do. … And I think they were surprised at some of the results that they found,” Reynolds said. “They don’t check in with me, but I support wholeheartedly the department and the decisions that were made.”

So she either made a false statement about inquiries, or completely ignored the other concerns about potential illegal searches or we have another shoe yet to drop. Really curious who made the inquiries. The agent claimed he did it on his own.
 
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Just look at the damages though. Loss of eligibility, charges and plea agreements, playoffs for the baseball players, 1 baseball player who went to the draft and was undrafted would have been a top 5 rounder otherwise. Sullied their name and reputation and you know the standard emotional and mental distress and anxiety. Legal fees and others included.

Would your feelings be different if the allegedly illegal search uncovered a different type of illegal conduct such as . . . say . . . possession of child pornography. If the person who possessed child porn had his case thrown out because of an illegal search, should he have recourse for losing his job, his family, his reputation, etc.?

Not equating the conduct of the students to abhorrent deviant behavior. Simply asking whether the "victim" of an illegal search should have recourse for the consequences when the conduct learned in the illegal search comes to light.
 
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C'mon dude. They are a government agency in the executive branch. Of course she's going to support them and their investigations - as would any good executive. But if wrongdoing is found - then she also has the responsibility to make sure it's looked into and problems are fixed. But that in no way indicates the states chief executive was directing what was largely a small-time investigation of some students/student athletes.

The idea she was behind the investigation or managed it is just pure fantasy - one you're gonna be disappointed with the ending as you obviously want to damage her in this somehow.

Simply curious as to whether this same line of thought applies at the federal level . . .
 
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Would your feelings be different if the allegedly illegal search uncovered a different type of illegal conduct such as . . . say . . . possession of child pornography. If the person who possessed child porn had his case thrown out because of an illegal search, should he have recourse for losing his job, his family, his reputation, etc.?

Not equating the conduct of the students to abhorrent deviant behavior. Simply asking whether the "victim" of an illegal search should have recourse for the consequences when the conduct learned in the illegal search comes to light.
Aurora, you are correct I wouldn't have quite the vigor. However if it came out an entire town of 3,000 to 5,000 people was illegally monitored in the process as well. Yes I would have concerns. At what point are we allowed to have an invasion of privacy. Yes I want the police to be able to do their jobs, but we can't just have blanket open ended warrants that DCI, police or feds can get any information they want without a warrant. Don't you agree? They never would have started the investigation with what we will call is potentially an illegal search. You don't get a warrant without that information.

And in either case I am sure a lawyer would step up to file that lawsuit against that dept, agency, community or state regarding the child pornography. How many false arrests and conviction lawsuits have there been after someone was later exonerated. You don't have to like the person, but if there is money to be had there will be some lawyer that will take the case.
 
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No I honestly could care less. What I am curious is how far did this go up the chain, and I am geniunely interested when she became aware of it. Whether before the geofencing occurred, further in the investigation, or after. Now there was already individuals including the gaming commissioner who said he had concerns. He quit his job. Then you have governor Reynolds giving her support. She "wholeheartedly" supported the investigation.

“They did the job. They received inquiries about an issue and they did what they do. … And I think they were surprised at some of the results that they found,” Reynolds said. “They don’t check in with me, but I support wholeheartedly the department and the decisions that were made.”

So she either made a false statement about inquiries, or completely ignored the other concerns about potential illegal searches or we have another shoe yet to drop. Really curious who made the inquiries. The agent claimed he did it on his own.
But the question then becomes….Did they do “the job” while respecting the rights afforded all citizens by our Constitution?? Something here seems to be amiss. Someone is not telling the truth. It seems.
 
Would your feelings be different if the allegedly illegal search uncovered a different type of illegal conduct such as . . . say . . . possession of child pornography. If the person who possessed child porn had his case thrown out because of an illegal search, should he have recourse for losing his job, his family, his reputation, etc.?

Not equating the conduct of the students to abhorrent deviant behavior. Simply asking whether the "victim" of an illegal search should have recourse for the consequences when the conduct learned in the illegal search comes to light.
The old adage of it takes a monster to kill a monster.
 
Simply curious as to whether this same line of thought applies at the federal level . . .
Not sure I understand the question. Do I think the president is micromanaging FBI investigations? Of course not. Might the president's staff gets briefed/given updates on certain ongoing high-profile investigations? Of course. But that wouldn't make the chief executive responsible if low-level agents conducted searches illegally. It's just whimsical nonsense to attempt to tie back poor field work to the top level of government/chief executive.
 
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Athletic only facilities at Iowa and ISU certainly make it easier to target those student-athletes, but doing the same investigation at UNI, Drake, or other colleges wouldn’t be that difficult either.

From what I’ve read, the sportsbook apps use GeoComply software to verify user location, and they provide access to that software to the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission and probably other state gambling commissions as well. I believe the DCI piggybacked on this access and it’s what they used for their investigation.

If the DCI can use this software to pull a bunch of historical data on sportsbook activity, they can narrow it down to whatever they want. First find out when and where the UNI football team practices, then filter the activity data to that specific time and place. Rinse and repeat for the next college or team you want to look into. It’s a bit more work, but it’s not that hard or complicated.
They don’t have athlete only facilities at UNI. Their locker rooms and weight rooms are shared spaces. They aren’t taking their phones with them to bet out at the practice field or the UNI-Dome field.

Iowa and ISU athletes are hanging around at their exclusive team-only spaces, which just don’t exist for the most part in Cedar Falls.
 
Aurora, you are correct I wouldn't have quite the vigor. However if it came out an entire town of 3,000 to 5,000 people was illegally monitored in the process as well. Yes I would have concerns. At what point are we allowed to have an invasion of privacy. Yes I want the police to be able to do their jobs, but we can't just have blanket open ended warrants that DCI, police or feds can get any information they want without a warrant. Don't you agree? They never would have started the investigation with what we will call is potentially an illegal search. You don't get a warrant without that information.

And in either case I am sure a lawyer would step up to file that lawsuit against that dept, agency, community or state regarding the child pornography. How many false arrests and conviction lawsuits have there been after someone was later exonerated. You don't have to like the person, but if there is money to be had there will be some lawyer that will take the case.

I've got zero problems with the concept of privacy protections. I just think that the concept of "damages" and remedies in these situations is interesting.

How can you put the genie back in the bottle?

If you owned a company that employed a person who engaged in highly objectionable conduct but that conduct only came to light because of an illegal search, do you have to put blinders on, pretend it didn't happen and welcome that person back to your workplace? (set aside the concept of employment at will)
 
Not sure I understand the question. Do I think the president is micromanaging FBI investigations? Of course not. Might the president's staff gets briefed/given updates on certain ongoing high-profile investigations? Of course. But that wouldn't make the chief executive responsible if low-level agents conducted searches illegally. It's just whimsical nonsense to attempt to tie back poor field work to the top level of government/chief executive.

You're being obtuse.

The concept is easy and highly applicable in today's charged political environment. Both sides blame just about anything and everything that happens upon the occupant of the Oval Office.

You make a very rational point about the Governor not watching over the daily activities of DCI's agents. Couldn't agree more about that. That written, the same logic doesn't seem to apply to how many people view government on the federal level.
 
I've got zero problems with the concept of privacy protections. I just think that the concept of "damages" and remedies in these situations is interesting.

How can you put the genie back in the bottle?

If you owned a company that employed a person who engaged in highly objectionable conduct but that conduct only came to light because of an illegal search, do you have to put blinders on, pretend it didn't happen and welcome that person back to your workplace? (set aside the concept of employment at will)
Illegal search by whom?
 
I've got zero problems with the concept of privacy protections. I just think that the concept of "damages" and remedies in these situations is interesting.

How can you put the genie back in the bottle?

If you owned a company that employed a person who engaged in highly objectionable conduct but that conduct only came to light because of an illegal search, do you have to put blinders on, pretend it didn't happen and welcome that person back to your workplace? (set aside the concept of employment at will)
Did damages occur to these individuals that shouldn't have? It is a fairly simplified answer. No charges or investigation should have been brought forward, yes you can argue what they did was was against the law, the issue is not only was it illegally obtained, no one else is being held to the same standard, literally no other college has had an investigation like this. Then you throw in someone like Shannon, who did nothing illegal, yes he violated NCAA rules, but bet a nominal amount on a woman's game and is suspended for the season. Again, you don't see any harm? Let alone the wrestlers, baseball players and higher level football players at Iowa State. It gets back to my Reynolds statement I threw out earlier. Most agencies 1 are not willing to do an illegal search, 2 do not want to do something like this afraid of what they might find. Otherwise every single other college D1, DII, and DIII would have similar investigations. Crickets. No one else wants to know the information even though they know its occurring.

If someone is going to take on a class action lawsuit like the players did against the football program, I can guarantee you there will be class actions against the state of Iowa. It really comes down to should the investigation occurred, and because it did were these individuals negatively impacted? You are the lawyer . . . LOL, I would think this would be something you would say is a guaranteed lawsuit. The other is, this is guaranteed to be settled before it goes to court. Iowa will not want this out in the public. Heads will roll and they will move on.

There is a lawsuit going on in southern Iowa against a local school filed by Parrish. The nuts and bolts of the situation is a counselor was texting and regularly pulling out a student out of class. Some of the conversations were deemed inappropriate. There were also previous concerns of inappropriate interactions with other students about this employee. The parents raised concerns and took it to the police. They refused to file charges, but it did arise to a level 2 investigation by the county prosecutor that raised concerns on the behavior and potential grooming. The counselor was let go in close door session, ultimately to protect the minor. The minor was also taking nursing classes at the time with the counselors wife through the local college. They claim she was inappropriate with her and failed her after she claimed the student was cheating. The lawyers claim it was retaliation. A teacher also called the student a homewreaker. Beyond that, it can be said the student is not a great historian, she was open enrolled to the school and even after suing the school, is still attending the school the following year open enrolled. Yet the lawyers have claimed she suffers "mental anguish, humiliation, degradation, public ridicule, loss of personal reputation, and emotional distress." In this case I would argue the harm is much less than the iowa and iowa state case. Difference is it includes a minor and the minor was doing nothing illegal. Parrish is likely looking for a big payday from the school district and the community college. My guess is it gets settled prior to the case as I don't think anyone wants the minor on the stand getting grilled and they don't want anymore information getting out. I think lawyers are willing to take any case, even if the client has a history of lying or a poor reputation. If the accused has money, there will be a lawsuit.
 
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Would your feelings be different if the allegedly illegal search uncovered a different type of illegal conduct such as . . . say . . . possession of child pornography. If the person who possessed child porn had his case thrown out because of an illegal search, should he have recourse for losing his job, his family, his reputation, etc.?

Not equating the conduct of the students to abhorrent deviant behavior. Simply asking whether the "victim" of an illegal search should have recourse for the consequences when the conduct learned in the illegal search comes to light.
The problem with your scenario is that a government that is willing to break the law to search is willing to break the law in other ways as well. They uncover child porn? Says who? The people that were willing to conduct an illegal search to further their own careers.

So yes the person in your scenario absolutely should have recourse.
 
They don’t have athlete only facilities at UNI. Their locker rooms and weight rooms are shared spaces. They aren’t taking their phones with them to bet out at the practice field or the UNI-Dome field.

Iowa and ISU athletes are hanging around at their exclusive team-only spaces, which just don’t exist for the most part in Cedar Falls.
I understand that UNI and other colleges don’t have athlete only facilities like ISU and Iowa. I’m presenting a way to sift through sportsbook app activity you don’t want to get to the activity you need.

Get practice schedules, see what athletes are doing before or after practice, find out where groups of athletes congregate. Use the software to filter through potentially months worth of data for specific times and places you’re interested in and see if you can find usage patterns. Investigate promising leads.

It’s not shooting fish in a barrel like Iowa and ISU, but they already have access to all the data they need to at least start an investigation.
 
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Let's be clear. There was not a warrant issued for this agent to conduct any geofencing investigation. There was zero probable cause for an investigation to take place and convince a judge to issue a warrant. Even if a judge would have issued such a warrant, federal courts have already ruled that investigations using geofencing are almost always unconstitutional.

What happened here is a gross abuse of power and an incredible example of how government agents left unchecked can destroy lives through tyranny. Yes this was absolutely the act of a tyrant and needs to addressed as such

By the way it's time for journalists to start digging for real at where thos agency used this method of geofence fishing for crimes outside this case. I doubt this genius came up with this method all on his own. It's likely been done elsewhere on other cases
 
Try to find out any information about DCI background or profiles of agents is almost impossible.

This begs the question?...why are they so non-transparent when they are supposed to be serving the people of Iowa?

Obvisously Brian Sanger had some sort of motive for launching a secret private investigation of Iowa Athletes....so what was it?? that is the key question at this point. Perhaps just knowing some general things about him....where he schooled, jobs and experiences might help explain (or not) his personal what seems like vendetta at this point.
 
Try to find out any information about DCI background or profiles of agents is almost impossible.

This begs the question?...why are they so non-transparent when they are supposed to be serving the people of Iowa?

Obvisously Brian Sanger had some sort of motive for launching a secret private investigation of Iowa Athletes....so what was it?? that is the key question at this point. Perhaps just knowing some general things about him....where he schooled, jobs and experiences might help explain (or not) his personal what seems like vendetta at this point.

Assume he was trying to advance his career with a big case. Broke every rule possible on the way with his colleagues. I don’t think it was just him though, we’ll find out more as this discovery goes on
 
Try to find out any information about DCI background or profiles of agents is almost impossible.

This begs the question?...why are they so non-transparent when they are supposed to be serving the people of Iowa?

Obvisously Brian Sanger had some sort of motive for launching a secret private investigation of Iowa Athletes....so what was it?? that is the key question at this point. Perhaps just knowing some general things about him....where he schooled, jobs and experiences might help explain (or not) his personal what seems like vendetta at this point.

Why in God's name would police officers want to make their background or profiles available to the masses? People are absolutely crazy these days, both off line and on line.
 
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Let's be clear. There was not a warrant issued for this agent to conduct any geofencing investigation. There was zero probable cause for an investigation to take place and convince a judge to issue a warrant. Even if a judge would have issued such a warrant, federal courts have already ruled that investigations using geofencing are almost always unconstitutional.

What happened here is a gross abuse of power and an incredible example of how government agents left unchecked can destroy lives through tyranny. Yes this was absolutely the act of a tyrant and needs to addressed as such

By the way it's time for journalists to start digging for real at where thos agency used this method of geofence fishing for crimes outside this case. I doubt this genius came up with this method all on his own. It's likely been done elsewhere on other cases
Why hasn’t the Iowa media been asking questions of the state and department of safety since day one? Tom Brands in November implored the media to do their jobs and we haven’t seen anything from them. We only get information from the plaintiffs attorneys.
 
Why hasn’t the Iowa media been asking questions of the state and department of safety since day one? Tom Brands in November implored the media to do their jobs and we haven’t seen anything from them. We only get information from the plaintiffs attorneys.
Likely because they were being stonewalled by the dci. The attorney has powers through discovery that a journalist doesn't. Look at the statement released from dci recently....the typical bs line about not commenting on an ongoing case.
 
Try to find out any information about DCI background or profiles of agents is almost impossible.

This begs the question?...why are they so non-transparent when they are supposed to be serving the people of Iowa?

Obvisously Brian Sanger had some sort of motive for launching a secret private investigation of Iowa Athletes....so what was it?? that is the key question at this point. Perhaps just knowing some general things about him....where he schooled, jobs and experiences might help explain (or not) his personal what seems like vendetta at this point.
Are these coincidences?

Sanger is/was a wrestling coach for Dubuque University.

No one was targeted at Drake, UNI or the U of Dubuque that we know of.

DCI Commissioner went to Drake.

Iowa AG went to Drake.

Sanger forgot why he did it. Lol
 
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Are these coincidences?

Sanger is/was a wrestling coach for Dubuque University.

No one was targeted at Drake, UNI or the U of Dubuque that we know of.

DCI Commissioner went to Drake.

Iowa AG went to Drake.

Sanger forgot why he did it. Lol
Why you gotta bring UNI into this mess! 😂
 
Help my memory: wasn't there a rumor that the initial investigation started because the mother of a baseball player noticed some activity on her account and thought she was getting scammed? This led to her contacting the DCI, if I remember correctly. Maybe I'm confused and the above has been debunked... TIA
 
Help my memory: wasn't there a rumor that the initial investigation started because the mother of a baseball player noticed some activity on her account and thought she was getting scammed? This led to her contacting the DCI, if I remember correctly. Maybe I'm confused and the above has been debunked... TIA

Doesn’t jive with initial report that they looked at dorms first, or why they’d have looked at ISU as well.

This smells like someone had an axe to grind imo.
 
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Why hasn’t the Iowa media been asking questions of the state and department of safety since day one? Tom Brands in November implored the media to do their jobs and we haven’t seen anything from them. We only get information from the plaintiffs attorneys.
And do what exactly? They’ve gotten nothing but some version of “no comment” from every government agency thus far. They don’t have a subpoena power.
 
Assume he was trying to advance his career with a big case. Broke every rule possible on the way with his colleagues. I don’t think it was just him though, we’ll find out more as this discovery goes on
The good news is, the ISU wrestler has retained Chris Sandy as his lawyer. That dude is extremely thorough and will dig DEEP into this crap and lay it out there for all to see. This is a big deal and he's not taking it lightly.
 
Keep asking the important questions to our state leaders? Do some investigative reporting. There are obviously people that are in positions of government that might talk because they saw what went on and didn’t agree with it. How does any journalist break stories of government corruption? These leverage sources and do the leg work.

Sorry, this was a reply to stormhawk.
 
This thread is getting more bizarre by the minute.

The "state AG" did not file charges.

I apologize, I did not check the facts for the post I was quoting.

That being said, what I said is still 100% relevant, bc it could explain how a case built on illegally obtained evidence still went through the system.
 
Keep asking the important questions to our state leaders? Do some investigative reporting. There are obviously people that are in positions of government that might talk because they saw what went on and didn’t agree with it. How does any journalist break stories of government corruption? These leverage sources and do the leg work.

Sorry, this was a reply to stormhawk.
how do you know they haven't been asking those questions? Keep in mind this case is less than 9 months old. If people at DCI keep their mouths shut, it's difficult to break a story.
 
how do you know they haven't been asking those questions? Keep in mind this case is less than 9 months old. If people at DCI keep their mouths shut, it's difficult to break a story.
I don’t know for a fact. I know I haven’t seen journalists putting government employees feet to the fire around this investigation. Have you?How do you know they have?
At any public press conference or interview with the governor, legislators, etc. they could have been asking these questions. I have only seen one time where the governor was asked publicly about this case and she said she wholeheartedly agreed with the dci and their decisions in this case.
Keep hammering her and others with how the gaming commission wasn’t even involved in these cases. How the gaming commissioner himself told a parent of an athlete that people at the gaming commission and and even other law enforcement officers didn’t agree with charging these athletes. Geofencing which was used in this case is a very controversial tool which our state leaders should have been asked about every time they were interviewed.
This is a huge story and just not in athletic circles. If all this has been done. Then I am wrong, I just haven’t seen it.
 
I don’t know for a fact. I know I haven’t seen journalists putting government employees feet to the fire around this investigation. Have you?How do you know they have?
At any public press conference or interview with the governor, legislators, etc. they could have been asking these questions. I have only seen one time where the governor was asked publicly about this case and she said she wholeheartedly agreed with the dci and their decisions in this case.
Keep hammering her and others with how the gaming commission wasn’t even involved in these cases. How the gaming commissioner himself told a parent of an athlete that people at the gaming commission and and even other law enforcement officers didn’t agree with charging these athletes. Geofencing which was used in this case is a very controversial tool which our state leaders should have been asked about every time they were interviewed.
This is a huge story and just not in athletic circles. If all this has been done. Then I am wrong, I just haven’t seen it.

Sure, but there's so much of investigative reporting that goes on before we see the finished story. There's also no point to repeatedly asking questions at pressers without new information to go from; and with the standard "don't comment on ongoing cases" they have a ready made answer to stay quiet.

until these agents were forced to testify under oath, there wasn't alot to go off on to ask publicly - and quite honestly, what on earth would they be able to ask the governor about, until and unless they actually have something that suggests the governor hasn't been honest?

This is a fairly big story - impacting two major universities, several different collegiate sports, criminal charges, and sports gambling. I'd be absolutely astounded if there wasn't anyone from state papers or something that weren't at least keeping tabs on the story and doing more research.
 
Sure, but there's so much of investigative reporting that goes on before we see the finished story. There's also no point to repeatedly asking questions at pressers without new information to go from; and with the standard "don't comment on ongoing cases" they have a ready made answer to stay quiet.

until these agents were forced to testify under oath, there wasn't alot to go off on to ask publicly - and quite honestly, what on earth would they be able to ask the governor about, until and unless they actually have something that suggests the governor hasn't been honest?

This is a fairly big story - impacting two major universities, several different collegiate sports, criminal charges, and sports gambling. I'd be absolutely astounded if there wasn't anyone from state papers or something that weren't at least keeping tabs on the story and doing more research.
Not trying to corner you specifically, but I think the start of your third paragraph is kind of a contradiction to the first two paragraphs. If this is such a big story and all the information the media is receiving from the state is “no comment”, stock answers, and deflections, then maybe there is a lot more going on and even more questions should be asked.

As outdated as newscasts and newspapers are, were those entities continually hammering the DCI/DPS/State of Iowa on their lack of answers and transparency on this investigation? Did it lead off the broadcast or appear on the front page?

My thoughts don’t completely align with Tom Brands recent interview, but waiting for everything to go through the courts is the path of least resistance. I don’t disagree with you outright, but it sort of seems like no one was getting answers so the media just moved on.
 
Keep asking the important questions to our state leaders? Do some investigative reporting. There are obviously people that are in positions of government that might talk because they saw what went on and didn’t agree with it. How does any journalist break stories of government corruption? These leverage sources and do the leg work.

Sorry, this was a reply to stormhawk.
Maybe this will end up getting rid of our Iowa Governor???
 
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Would your feelings be different if the allegedly illegal search uncovered a different type of illegal conduct such as . . . say . . . possession of child pornography. If the person who possessed child porn had his case thrown out because of an illegal search, should he have recourse for losing his job, his family, his reputation, etc.?

Not equating the conduct of the students to abhorrent deviant behavior. Simply asking whether the "victim" of an illegal search should have recourse for the consequences when the conduct learned in the illegal search comes to light.
 
The governor's not the one who charged them.
No but the buck does generally end with the AG and Governor. If something goes wrong you always look to the top. The other thing is that both the governor and AG came out in the last 3 months and said they fully supported the investigation. No offense that is just odd. Why did you stick your neck out. Would have been better to say "its an ongoing investigation." LOL or that they are looking into the concerns.

If the interviewer had any ability with Breanna Bird is after she said she gave full support to the investigation, would be to ask if she thinks the public can be geofenced without a warrant or is there any reasoning that would allow geofencing without a warrant.
 
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No but the buck does generally end with the AG and Governor. If something goes wrong you always look to the top. The other thing is that both the governor and AG came out in the last 3 months and said they fully supported the investigation. No offense that is just odd. Why did you stick your neck out. Would have been better to say "its an ongoing investigation." LOL or that they are looking into the concerns.
Sometimes the media has to shine the light into the darkest corners. Not saying the Gov or AG did anything wrong here….I am saying they can get Iowans the answers quickly.
 
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