Yeah, it could not be in a worse location. Complete idiocy.
Apparently, those tiger dams work really good, though....
Use water to defeat water. F-ing Brilliant.
Yeah, it could not be in a worse location. Complete idiocy.
On an “island” that was dredged up out of the water of Tampa Bay paid for by I believe Henry Plant?Yep, and our only trauma center hospital is on an island at sea level. They have to construct a wall to keep it from flooding in a hurricane. It is the epitome of backwardness. The civilized world looks at us and wonders how we can be so monumentally dumb.
Uh no. The things we are talking about happened during the decades of Democratic rule.Could the locals stop the overdevelopment, even if they so desired? Hasn’t the republican state legislature stripped away most local control?
Good to know that's all been reversed since the GOP took control.Uh no. The things we are talking about happened during the decades of Democratic rule.
You mean the houses that have been there for decades? I missed the procedure that allowed that to happen?Good to know that's all been reversed since the GOP took control.
My wife and I were talking about this the other day. One of her co-workers bought a plot of land down where Milton hit. She and her husband wanted to build their retirement home eventually. They put up a camera on a post to keep their eyes on it, and to look wistfully at, I suppose. Twice they’ve watched it be under water.I know that is true, but it does not mean that local governments should grant to the developer whatever they wish in terms of houses per acre, or large scale development in what long-term folks know is marsh/lowlands. I live in ground zero for the explosive growth...my home county has been one of the fastest-growing in the nation over the last 5 to 10 years. I've watched as developers have thrown up houses in areas that have been swampland my entire life, pushing dirt around to try to build up. They're all flooded now, and in addition many families who have lived on surrounding property for multiple generations are also now flooded due to the forced change in water flow.
And yet, many of our local, county, and statewide elected officials continue to be overjoyed at the excessive growth, and remain willing to approve more as long as the campaign contributions continue to flow.
My wife and I were talking about this the other day. One of her co-workers bought a plot of land down where Milton hit. She and her husband wanted to build their retirement home eventually. They put up a camera on a post to keep their eyes on it, and to look wistfully at, I suppose. Twice they’ve watched it be under water.
Who sold them the land and who thought it would be wise to build homes there? Oh well, that’s someone else’s problem according to the builders, developers, and politicians they own. It’s the same in fire prone areas and the desert where developers pile in subdivisions while the water dwindles away.
Yep, 400 miles of them alone in little ol' Cape Coral (take that, Venice--the one in Italy.)The metropolises of South Florida (both sides) only exist because of a massive network of drainage canals.
Ahhh...sorry...didn't realize there was a moratorium on building under the current power structure. Trad assures me they're still building hand-over-fist even in the face of what we all know is coming. And I'm not defending the Dems who allowed the draining of the Everglades to build and paved over wetlands but EVERYBODY down there was riding that bus. Hell, I doubt the Dems down there would have the courage to do anything, either, were they to get control again but they couldn't be worse.You mean the houses that have been there for decades? I missed the procedure that allowed that to happen?
Ahhh...sorry...didn't realize there was a moratorium on building under the current power structure. Trad assures me they're still building hand-over-fist even in the face of what we all know is coming. And I'm not defending the Dems who allowed the draining of the Everglades to build and paved over wetlands but EVERYBODY down there was riding that bus. Hell, I doubt the Dems down there would have the courage to do anything, either, were they to get control again but they couldn't be worse.
Regardless of Trad's beach still being in the same place it's always been, the day is coming when lots of coastal properties down there will be uninsurable at any price. Somebody better confront that reality.
Florida has the highest homeowner insurance rates in the country. After Helene and Milton, where do you think they're going?Blah, blah, blah.
It seems the cow left the barn quite a while back.That's about 8 miles from my house, I've played the golf course hundreds of times and my old business partner used to live in the development.
It did flood back in the extreme El Nino year in 1998, but not as bad as this. Much of the surrounding area, which was pretty low and was formerly wilderness and/or cow pasture, has been developed and is now rooftops and pavement.
Perhaps it's time for Florida to tap the brakes on overdevelopment.
FSU mag lab be like “we got you Tallahassee”
Florida has the highest homeowner insurance rates in the country. After Helene and Milton, where do you think they're going?
Joe you messin up the hurricane thread
Uh....that's the 7 day forecast chart....50/50 odds of another one forming and (initially) heading in the direction of FL over the next weekJoe you messin up the hurricane thread
They might want to make a different choice.My wife and I were talking about this the other day. One of her co-workers bought a plot of land down where Milton hit. She and her husband wanted to build their retirement home eventually. They put up a camera on a post to keep their eyes on it, and to look wistfully at, I suppose. Twice they’ve watched it be under water.
Who sold them the land and who thought it would be wise to build homes there? Oh well, that’s someone else’s problem according to the builders, developers, and politicians they own. It’s the same in fire prone areas and the desert where developers pile in subdivisions while the water dwindles away.
Hey guess what - I agree with you.Ahhh...sorry...didn't realize there was a moratorium on building under the current power structure. Trad assures me they're still building hand-over-fist even in the face of what we all know is coming. And I'm not defending the Dems who allowed the draining of the Everglades to build and paved over wetlands but EVERYBODY down there was riding that bus. Hell, I doubt the Dems down there would have the courage to do anything, either, were they to get control again but they couldn't be worse.
Regardless of Trad's beach still being in the same place it's always been, the day is coming when lots of coastal properties down there will be uninsurable at any price. Somebody better confront that reality.
Who you voting for goldmom?Hey guess what - I agree with you.
Florida used to be underwater. It may be headed that way again - eventually.
We do have high rates but there are other states with high premiums IF you can even get coverage.Florida has the highest homeowner insurance rates in the country. After Helene and Milton, where do you think they're going?
That’s where FL is headed.We do have high rates but there are other states with high premiums IF you can even get coverage.
California homeowners have faced outright non-renewals and have struggled to get a policy at even very high rates.
The insurance companies will bail a long time before that happens. Centuries before.Hey guess what - I agree with you.
Florida used to be underwater. It may be headed that way again - eventually.
Pasco County
'Higher than we've seen in 6 decades': Why is the Withlacoochee River still rising
Maybe moving companies can hire him as an influencer for all the recent arrivals who are moving north.The always entertaining real estate investor Ben Mallah surveying the damage at his various Pinellas County beach properties
This is post-Helene flooding footage of several hotels and John’s Pass Marina near Treasure Island and then the days just before Milton.
Investing in coastal properties
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This. I went out at 5 am this morning for my bike ride, and almost immediately came back inside for a long sleeve shirt. It was wonderful.Three straight days of clear sunny skies are helping Florida and even cooler weather arriving tomorrow will help.
The best weather is always the two or three days after a hurricane.This. I went out at 5 am this morning for my bike ride, and almost immediately came back inside for a long sleeve shirt. It was wonderful.