****Iowa @ Michigan game thread****
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Joe T
Connor
CJ
Joe W
Luka
Connor plays lead guard when Joe T rests
Spot minutes for Evelyn at guard, spots for Pemsl and Till.
Ryan K minutes a little more fluctuating, spells Luka but also plays with him if matchups allow, extra minutes obviously for those games where his confidence gets going.
Shut it down JBo. Remaining games he plays, though, I would try to pair him with Joe T as much as possible.
You might be surprised. Traveling takes a toll, guys get little colds this time of year, they’re students, too. I played college and every year this part of the year was challenging. You’re still practicing hard, the rhythm of the season hasn’t set in yet (non-con it’s hard to get into rhythm the same way you get into a rhythm during conference slate). And then going against bigger, more athletic guys is fatiguing in and of itself—unfortunately I know this real well.
Hell, look at CJ already. He came out all gangbusters and is already dinged up and searching for energy.
Yep, Injury to guys/sickness also an issue. Any pulse of a D going forward I like this teams chances in most games they play.
Your opinion I respect.
Do you believe it was a decisive factor?
Oh, and do you know Legend12?
Yeah I sense the sarcasm but I was referring to the defense. I was totally impressed with the offense and blown away by Garza.
No need to get defensive.
Decisive factor? Tonight? Maybe a fresh, confident Joe W might have put pressure on Michigan. He seems mentally broken at the moment, either mentally tired or just maladjusted to the greater responsibility he has this year. It’s like he’s preoccupied.
Joe W has pride. He’ll be better. My issue with Fran’s program has always been cultural—I’m dying for a defense-first culture. Why I bring this up is because a defense-first culture takes Joe W’s offensive struggles and all Fran has to do is encourage Joe W to put all his eggs in the defense basket and don’t worry about offense. In doing so this releases pressure and typically the kid finds himself at both ends. But this is less possible in a program culture that isn’t built on defense as first priority.
Don’t know Legend.
The other thing I would do with Joe W is reward him somehow for offensive fouls. Some kind of reward system. Get the kid attacking bodies and baskets. He’ll experience some failure along the way—turnovers, getting his shot blocked, whatever—but that’s how you learn and develop. Dribbling at cones and chairs and even coaches doesn’t do it for some kids. You actually have to tell them that you want them to earn at least one offensive foul in the first four minutes or whatever.
Joe W is the kind of player who doesn’t want to make mistakes, at least that’s what I’m observing. CJ, on the other hand, is less worried, plays with more freedom. Obviously Joe T is like fück it and fück you I’m coming at you you’re going to taste my nuts... repeatedly.
Joe W is the kind of player who doesn’t want to make mistakes, at least that’s what I’m observing. CJ, on the other hand, is less worried, plays with more freedom. Obviously Joe T is like fück it and fück you I’m coming at you you’re going to taste my nuts... repeatedly.
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Lol. I was just curious if Rudolph knew him because Rudolph mentioned he was on the Iowa team back in the day and I thought Legend claimed to have played around that time.
Hawks match up extremely well vs MN. Should be a comfortable win for Iowa.
He knew Troy Skinner maybe some others that were there the one year I was a walk-on. Might have played pickup ball with him, who knows. Nobody told me I should stop wasting oxygen or any such death-wish while hooping at the Field House, I can attest to that at least.
You have got you and your minions believing mediocre is losing on the toad to a top 5 team while hanging tough the whole game with a short-handed line-up. It’s like calling Ferentz and the football team mediocre because they have trouble beating Top 10 teams on the road. It doesn’t make you mediocre, just means you aren’t the best of the best.
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I’m just curios, do you follow the football team? Because many of these same fans that cry about the basketball team not being a good defensive team deride Ferentz and team for being boring and too defensive-heavy.
I wouldn't go so far as saying should be a comfortable win. But from what I've seen of the goophs, Iowa is going to be fighting in the same weight class. A win is definitely there to be had.
I see this game as similar to the Syracuse game. I said prior to that game I would be surprised if Iowa won by less than 5 and I feel the same in this matchup. Anything MN can do, Iowa can do better this year. But I am assuming Bohannon plays. If he does not my opinion might change.
I think defense has been Fran’s weakness since Day 1. Honestly if someone asks me what is the overriding culture of Fran’s program (from a basketball standpoint) I can’t answer. I will say that I feel like Fran tries to allow the players to make the program theirs rather than his. I think he wants the experience to be as “collegiate” as possible in today’s world, meaning Fran isn’t some win-at-all-costs guy who sort of controls the entire experience to the nth degree. And I find this admirable and even refreshing.
I follow football closely. I never played. If someone asks me what Kirk’s program is built on I can easily answer: fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals—be it in regards to daily prep, technique be it a weight room lift or footwork or tackling, be it fundamentals of a particular scheme. It is so clear that doing everything the right way every time that I don’t even hesitate to assert these things.
Is it frustrating how, typically, Kirk offense seems to struggle more so than defense? Sure. Part of being a fan who watched every snap every year—the deficiencies become easier to recognize to us every-snap fans, and then once frustrated with some aspect of the product we tend towards selective memory type shit.
My biggest beef with football is that it seems like Kirk would want to try to find more Brad Banks types of prospects. In my relatively uneducated opinion, when your program rarely is stacked at all positions—especially skill guys on offense, and even offensive line has weaknesses (typically depth-related)—you would want a playmaker at QB, someone who can run a bit more instinctively and naturally. Two best QBs in Kirk era, Brad and Drew Tate. Both playmakers. CJ maybe in conversation.
I think getting offended at nitpicking and armchair qb fans is silly. I mean, it can be annoying, surely I’ve annoyed plenty, but damn, it’s part of being a fan, using these sports things as outlets for who knows what.
In the end I always try to remember that these are kids. Do I wish Fran would re-evaluate and make defense the foundation of the program? Sure. And maybe he has.
I cheer them on just the same. Like clockwork. Women, too, despite similar frustrations with Bluder.
I love the Hawks, they’re my team. I don’t know anything else.
Jumping up and down with all the otherwise-strangers but Hawkeye family at Barneys Beanery last Friday when Duncan drove that kick straight through the hearts of those wannabe 1990s fools in Lincoln—absolutely a blast.
The team fought hard tonight and never gave up. Michigan's game plan was to take the perimeter players out of the game and it worked. Iowa's defense was not up to the task tonight and they will win no games giving up 103 points. Luka was a total beast.
A worthwhile lesson to learn this early in the season. Juwan has a nice staff there, and of course a program left to him in great shape. When I lived in NYC I caught a fair amount of St. Joe’s games on TV. Martelli’s teams always well-coached, highly-regarded coach for good reason. Howard Eisley seemed cerebral as a player, and coached immediately after retiring, I think.
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I’m a retired coach, so yes I watch a lot of college basketball. It’s a good life.
Rudolph is just articulating what many of us see when observing the hoops team. At least with KF, right or wrong, there is a clear identity that the staff recruits to and develops players to. With Fran, it's "let's play fast" but Iowa simply doesn't recruit the types of players that allow you to do so with success against good teams. When Iowa has played it best this year (Syracuse, TTech) it's when the opponent willingly slows the game down. Iowa plays better in that environment.
That’s fair. I’m not contesting what you and Rudolph are saying. I was more curious because I see some of the same people that complain about the football team being too Defense-oriented and therefore, “boring”, also complain about the basketball team being too Offense-oriented.
Here we are over a month later. We're still depleted although we got CJ back. I just went back and watched the first half of this one and man, let me tell you, I believe we are tons better now. We won't have a repeat of this one on Friday here at home unless Howard is some kind of wizard.
You can say that again.Here we are over a month later. We're still depleted although we got CJ back. I just went back and watched the first half of this one and man, let me tell you, I believe we are tons better now. We won't have a repeat of this one on Friday here at home unless Howard is some kind of wizard.
https://247sports.com/college/michi...an-howard-luka-garza-iowa-hawkeyes-142308406/
But, at the end of the day: Garza, Garza, Garza. Because he’s touching the ball no matter what every time down the floor.”
But, at the end of the day: Garza, Garza, Garza. Because he’s touching the ball no matter what every time down the floor.”
And defensively in the first half, we had leaks. What if they employ the same strategy tomorrow? Maybe we hit some shots early and play sound defensively?They were diffidently hot from beyond the arc that night and we weren't. Livers is a big loss for them and aren't they 0 and 4 on the road in the BIG. Let's keep it that way and make it 5
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