Luke’s father……for Iowa fans, Luke is recently signed qb who lives in Georgia.
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Last year I said we were a year away and that 9 wins was a reasonable expectation. With incoming recruits and portal players and time for development, I have no doubt that this team can reach 12-13 wins next season.
It’s funny how we lose one player and we are suddenly a completely different team not worthy of the playoffs. Clear to all decision makers. We lose 20+ players for the bowl game and it’s “I can’t believe this is the same FSU team that thought they should have a playoff spot”.
Why would so many players sit out the bowl game? I understand the frustration with not being picked for the playoff but typically the players that are sitting out are protecting their draft stock.
I don’t imagine FSU had 20+ NFL worthy players this year, so what’s the reasoning for some of these? Your team chose to play, so why wouldn’t you want to finish the season with the guys you’ve been playing with all year? It seems awfully selfish to leave your team and program hanging the way they did - yesterday was embarrassing for FSU no matter how you slice it.
Again, if you have a shot at playing in the NFL next season, I get it but more than 20 players choosing to sit out is crazy. FSU would have been better off declining the invite.
Thanks. I do think most Hawk fans wanted you to do well last night. This stupid board makes me actually support FSU and hoping that you all come to the Big Ten.
However, social media muscles take over and I guess the natural thing to do is to crap on people... cause we are great people to one another.
I have watched zero bowl games so far. I listened to the FSU game on the radio last night. I will watch the Iowa game so long as it isn’t on BSPN. If the game is on the 4 letter network then I will listen to Gary and Ed call the game on the radio. After that I won’t watch another college game until FSU plays GT in Ireland.
Embarrassing. Freaking obviously. The most impactful losses to us were the NFL worthy players. Go back and look at highlights from our team for the season. Try and find anybody in those highlight clips who played against UGA on offense or defense. Trey Benson, Toafili, Keon Coleman, Johnny Wilson, Jaheim Bell, Douglas, Verse, Fiske, the secondary etc...
We saw this coming a mile away but it's still painful and embarrassing. People hear the number of players opting out but it's who opted out or was otherwise unavailable that made such a huge difference.
A lot of the opt outs were also from transfers. This is the new world of college football. The backup QB probably didn't like hearing about us courting top QBs on the portal so he transferred before the bowl game. People act like we (as in the fans) have control over this. "Hey guys, suit up for FSU! You owe us!".
This is the list of opt outs/transfers. It's pretty much every playmaker we had on offense gone and most of the playmakers on defense.
- QB
- Tate Rodemaker
- AJ Duffy
- RB
- Trey Benson*
- Lawrance Toafili (injury)
- Rodney Hill
- CJ Campbell
- WR
- Keon Coleman*
- Johnny Wilson*
- TE
- Jaheim Bell*
- Markeston Douglas
- OL
- Thomas Shrader
- Bless Harris
- Daughtry Richardson
- Qae'shon Sapp
- DL
- Jared Verse*
- Fabien Lovett*
- Braden Fiske*
- Joshua Farmer
- Malcolm Ray
- Dylan Brown
- Ayobami Tifase
- LB
- DJ Lundy
- Dylan Brown-Turner
- DB
- Renardo Green*
- Jarrian Jones*
- Akeem Dent*
We had 14 starters out; a few were due to injury, the rest as a precaution to not risk injury that would hurt draft status.
QB original starter hurt, backup transfer because he has two years eligibility left and we are actively pursuing a portal to start in front of him next year.
RB1 sat because he will be one of the top backs in the draft
RB2 out with injury. Also, two of top 3 backups transferred for more playing time.
TE leaving for NFL
WR1 and WR2 going to NFL, will likely be 1st round pick and either late 2nd/early 3rd round.
DE1, NFL bound
Top 3 DTs...one headed to NFL. One headed to NFL but planned to play last night, ended up out with injury. One coming back next year but out last night with injury.
LB1, NFL bound, thought he was playing last night but was a late scratch.
CB 1, 2 and 3 NFL bound
Safety 1, NFL bound.
General consensus is “QB” is not just another player. But, I suspect the football committee had an agenda here and FSU ended up as the team left out. Sadly, the result of the game does nothing more than justify the Committee’s decision. And this decision is not in the best interests of most of its members.
The agenda is that BSPN has a 3 billion dollar contract with the SEC and they weren’t going to allow a playoff without an SEC team. It’s called protecting your investment.
Absolutely. You cannot be surprised...what did “deep throat” tell Bob Woodward in that parking garage back in the day? (“Follow the money!”)
You bet it will. Wait until a recruit's tender ears here from other coaches about what bad sports we are, and how cowardly our actions were at the OB.
Oh, it's coming, sweetheart.
Oh, it's coming, sweetheart.
Problem is FSU had the opportunity to prove they belonged by playing a team most outside of the committee believe is one of the best 4 teams and maybe beat them. Unfortunately many decided what’s the point and abandoned their team. Georgia had the exact opposite. That’s where the culture difference comes in.
It’s going to take a while for this one to heal.
Maybe we should have declined but at the time it wasn’t known that so many players would up and leave.
Plus the planned exit from the ACC and the publicity against FSU would have been a real problem I believe that wouldn’t have been good for us.
Maybe we should have declined but at the time it wasn’t known that so many players would up and leave.
Plus the planned exit from the ACC and the publicity against FSU would have been a real problem I believe that wouldn’t have been good for us.
It sucks, but we’re not the only team dealing with it. Ohio State loses two key guys snd they could only put up three points on Missouri.
These players gave everything they had for 13 games, fought through adversity and injuries and were told, “Sorry, you’re not good enough without your quarterback. Oh, but we’d love you to play in this meaningless consolation game! Isn’t that fantastic, young man?”
F that. I don’t blame these guys for sitting out. They love FSU and don’t owe us fans a thing. They’re loyal to each other. I’d be surprised if any of the players who played were mad at the opt-outs. The CFP committee taught them a (shitty) lesson - you have to look out for number one.
These players gave everything they had for 13 games, fought through adversity and injuries and were told, “Sorry, you’re not good enough without your quarterback. Oh, but we’d love you to play in this meaningless consolation game! Isn’t that fantastic, young man?”
F that. I don’t blame these guys for sitting out. They love FSU and don’t owe us fans a thing. They’re loyal to each other. I’d be surprised if any of the players who played were mad at the opt-outs. The CFP committee taught them a (shitty) lesson - you have to look out for number one.
Thanks, Kirk.
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Bullshit. There’s plenty of smoke out there that Georgia players were incentivized$$$ to play in this game. Nothing can be taken from that game other than the fix was in.
Which entity is that Mark Applegate?
Yeah…but other people suffered the consequences of that.
We don’t have a huge rivalry with UGA and usually only share a dislike for uf.
Those players who threw a fit (they all did but obviously reacted differently) decided to clean out their lockers and abandon their teammates and coaches and fans and University.
Georgia has its own culture and good for them.
No way you should have lost to Alabama but an observed reality to the rest of the country is that they seem to be in y’all’s head.
You earned a berth in this meaningless bowl because you lost.
We earned it because we went 13-0 and got royally screwed by the CFP and ESECPN.
Forgive all of us because we didn’t want to be here.
And my response was that the shot at the NCAA fell short and hit FSU.
The NCAA isn’t feeling the shock and after effects of the debacle yesterday. FSU is. You and I are.
True story, her hubby is a life long gator fan.
And she has hated Kirk for 20+ years.
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You’re right. They played to finish what they started and for each other. It wasn’t $$ or some conspiracy theory. If that’s the case then their players who played in the SEC championship game who were injured would have played as well and wouldn’t have 19 transfers sitting out.
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I’m not saying that UGA players got extra money to play this game, but your argument is extremely weak. Those 19 transfers aren’t major players, and aren’t the ones getting paid (hence the transfer). The few that would have been are either truly too injured to take the field, or value career money over attempting to play lame in a meaningless bowl.
There are cultural differences because Kirby has been at UGA for 8-9 years. Norvell at FSU for half that. Most of Norvell’s time has been flipping the roster, to go from a 4 win team to a 13 win team, and leveraging the portal to get there. UGA is coming off winning back-to-back championships. FSU won its first conference championship in 9 years (and was its first trip back to the game in that same time). UGA played themselves out of the playoff, FSU didn’t. Pretty simple to see why there are “cultural” differences between these two teams (currently).
Players "opting out" of bowl games is awful.
It's not loyal to the school or team.
"Protesting" the committee decision by getting massacred on national TV is brutal.
It's not loyal to the school or team.
"Protesting" the committee decision by getting massacred on national TV is brutal.
They were not protesting. JFC. The game was meaningless and none of them wanted to either get hurt or injured more prior to NFL draft or next season. We had 9 guys opt out to go to the NFL. Another two (Farmer and LT) had surgery prior to game because let’s get started rehab now and why have injury get worse? Another two sat out with non surgical injuries because again, why bother? Plus the injury to J Trav and then Tate pussing out.
Meanwhile UGA does not have as many going pro and the few that are sat out. They are returning that team that played out there as next years clear national title favorites. Those guys all had to play. You don’t opt out if you are coming back next year to win a natty and healthy. Opting out is for transfers and NFL players.
Blows my mind how hard it is to see the difference between what happened. Zero to do with culture.
I don't think it hurts recruiting. Players want to play. Well, we have openings they can compete for....
It’s just people repeating what they’ve heard or read somewhere, or they still haven’t gotten over future NFL draftees skipping bowl games (even though that’s been a thing for years now).
It just seems like the number of players that are opting out to "prepare for the draft" far outpaces the number of 1-2 round draft slots.
Irony is that IMO the best way to prepare for the draft is to, you know, practice playing football.
My theory is that opting out is the "thing to do" to signal how good you believe you are and if you don't opt out you are signalling that you don't believe you are worthy of a 1-2 round NFL draft pick. If you are one of the top players on your team you pretty much have to opt out to maintain that street cred, right?
Irony is that IMO the best way to prepare for the draft is to, you know, practice playing football.
My theory is that opting out is the "thing to do" to signal how good you believe you are and if you don't opt out you are signalling that you don't believe you are worthy of a 1-2 round NFL draft pick. If you are one of the top players on your team you pretty much have to opt out to maintain that street cred, right?
Could be, but I also wonder if it’s mostly just concern over injury in a meaningless game. Probably not much these players can do to move the needle on their draft rankings so maybe they think there’s only downside.
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