Think you mean Ray B? You are always up his A@@ when he posts here.
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I guess we learned from Iron Bird, that the current NCAA banned substance testing program does not work.
40 years in the strength game or roid rage tells him that.
40 years in the strength game or roid rage tells him that.
Agreed. HR is in full melt down mode with some posters throwing accusations around whether there is proof or not. Making excuses is a terrible mentality to have especially in the sport we all love.
While I will bleed black and gold until the day I die, how about we do our best to secure a great team using whatever necessary, keep it legal, and win on the mat. Nothing says F U better than that.
FYI - the F U was to PSU fans when we win again but all in fun. Same thing I would say to a friend when my team beats his. Life is to short to get pissed and be upset by someone else over a F'n message board 🤣
He weighed in at Nationals at 228, what did he weigh at beginning of season? Truth hurts!More lies. Are you really in Iowa somewhere or sitting in a Russian hacker pod in the Motherland? Stop making sh#t up. He weighed in at 228.2 pounds at the NCAA championship where he beat Gable for the 2nd time in 2 weeks. Unless you have a better source for facts than that deranged skull. You're an embarrassment to this forum, and that is saying something.
How big are the big guys at the 2019 NCAAs? - WIN Magazine
Photo: Penn State’s Anthony Cassar and Minnesota’s Gable Steveson are seeded second and third at the 2019 NCAAs after reaching the Big Ten finals two weeks ago. The Nittany Lion weighed in at 228.2 pounds while the Gopher checked in at 257.8 two hours before the start of nationals in Pittsburgh...www.win-magazine.com
edit: @PSU Mike , I noticed that you linked this article previously. Then I read through the posts. Now I feel bad about piling on ironturd. He's been taking a beating from all sides.
U R SAD MAN!
You saying some of your guys are now screwed up?
1) Football is NOT Wrestling. 2) Much harder to train thru wrestling, and really no off-season. 3) Here is some more news, MANY Football players are using PEDs!
My guess is no he isn't but he should be!
Yea right!!!!
Nick Lee?
First part CORRECT!!! How many have been caught? Back in the day, your RBY Jelly would have failed drinking his BANG crap before every match! Caffeine is on the list dummy!!! 2nd part YES- NO!
Buddy you need to lay off the meth, it’s really starting to show.
I was thinking bath salts.
NC is the abbreviation for the state of North Carolina, where I live. Hawk is self explanatory. 5 is my favorite number but also acts as an S if the viewer chooses to see it that way.
Keep laughing I guess? So you are like a flat Earth dude? you think athletes are not juicing!?!?! What athletes are you talking about?
My 2nd thing, I am not one of these comp nerds or internet guys who go from board to board following messages from this guy and what that guy said 3 years ago etc.... But I do believe, without looking back now, that you are the same guy from another thread, that someone wanted to wrestle you?
Is that you too???
Ironic that you’re referring to me as a flat earther. I’m sure cheating happens, but I find your evidence unconvincing and your credibility as suspect. What does my wrestling match have to do with our conversation?
Tossing rocks in glass houses again? I think an iron bird would be too heavy to fly. Doubt it could swim either. :-/
Ahh that was fun.
To the rest of the HR crew. You had a great string of 3 years, injuries suck, I respect your program and most of the guys on here. Have some fun, shit, if your down or stressed just think how would it be to be Rutgers!
See here, this is exactly what I mean. You talk out of both sides your face and come across as what I call a pseudo. First you say one thing like athletes are not juicing, then cheating happens, what is your evidence on this?
I guess the best evidence on this right here in this conversation would be the Russian Wrestling team! What happened to them? AND when I pointed out to NOT put them so high on a pedestal many years ago, just like MLB. I had this exact conversation!
Your Wrestling match, has a lot to do with it because you seem suspect? You appear to be a false type of fan over here. I am not sure!?!?
I’m fairly certain some college athletes have taken and gotten away with taken that muscle building stuff. I just heard rumors around locker rooms and such, nothing on video. There may or may not have been a few wrestlers in the mix, not nearly as many as the Russians though.
Fix is a cheater, I’ve called him out on here before because there is very strong strong evidence to support that claim. I’ve been a lurker on this board for years and a big supporter of the wrestling program. I’m not a false fan, read the NCAA threads and what I posted. I’m black and gold all the way. However, I’m not a fan of someone throwing shit out there and hoping it sticks just because another team is winning.
Well let me tell you a story. i went to a D2 school. At the time, a good amount of D2 Football players were going Pro. It seemed a lot of D-lineman especially? In any case, we had one at my school who I knew. He went from a 190 pound HS Sr. to a 285 pound College d-lineman. He Benched 500 pounds! In the school paper, it credited the teams great strength program : )
I then coached with a F*** st Football player. I spoke with him about this trend if you will. He told me, they would storm into their rooms at 2am and pull them out for drug tests. D2 did not have this because of $$$ and resources. Therefore it was easier to use PEDs and get away with it in D2
Many of the Football players i knew were taking sh*t. Hell, we walked into the field house after Xmas break and there was the 2nd string QB throwing a Football around. (was a Jr. who went on to start as a Sr.) i did not know who he was as a group of us wrestlers walked by and everyone was saying Hi.
I had not seen him in a few months and he went from 180 to 220! Now once again, I fully understand what hard TRAINING can and can't do! I would believe that my teammates who TRAINED with me were some of the strongest wrestlers around. My 118 pound teammate benched 250 before his Jr year. I hit 320 as a freshman 158!
BUT, like Wrestling, lifting didn't start 10 years ago!!! There is a lot of examples that can be used for comparison!
I then coached with a F*** st Football player. I spoke with him about this trend if you will. He told me, they would storm into their rooms at 2am and pull them out for drug tests. D2 did not have this because of $$$ and resources. Therefore it was easier to use PEDs and get away with it in D2
Many of the Football players i knew were taking sh*t. Hell, we walked into the field house after Xmas break and there was the 2nd string QB throwing a Football around. (was a Jr. who went on to start as a Sr.) i did not know who he was as a group of us wrestlers walked by and everyone was saying Hi.
I had not seen him in a few months and he went from 180 to 220! Now once again, I fully understand what hard TRAINING can and can't do! I would believe that my teammates who TRAINED with me were some of the strongest wrestlers around. My 118 pound teammate benched 250 before his Jr year. I hit 320 as a freshman 158!
BUT, like Wrestling, lifting didn't start 10 years ago!!! There is a lot of examples that can be used for comparison!
OH, wait, FIX is a cheater, oh, OK. So if you don't get caught is what you are saying right? How about Barry Bonds? McGuire? Sosa? i will tell you one thing. The REAL WOOD bat HR record is STILL 61!!!
You know, as i sit here, what is funny, no, what is sad about all this. The younger folks do not fully understand. The MLB HR record that I mentioned. It is all but gone! These young people may NEVER get to see a player chase that record. late Aug. checking the stats, "does he have a chance?" These Cheaters all but eliminated anyone breaking the so called current record! Unless there is a major change, or super human freak(watch out because it has been worked on). 70+ HRs is very much un-likely.
That Swimmer who won the girls championship? I know , Not exactly the same but someone else losing out. Sorry, don't like it!
That Swimmer who won the girls championship? I know , Not exactly the same but someone else losing out. Sorry, don't like it!
Hey, Cass, buddy, that leg doesn't look like it's gonna heal by 2023. We wanna do what's best for you and apply for a medical redshirt. Oh, hey, Gabe, what a surprise. Say what? Well, as a matter of fact...
Guys - I have been following Iowa wrestling for over 50 years. I love the hawks! But right now we are not even close to P$U. The goals are individual and team Championships. They have won 9 out 20 National Weight Titles in the last two years. Hawks have a good team and excellent coaching staff. Beyond S Lee, who else? P$U just has more elite talent. The new facility will help in recruiting and training. But I would like to see Champs (1st) not 2nds or 3rds. Love the AA(s) but Iowa stands for winning! Go Hawks!!!! Also proud of Iowa putting together a D1 women team!
OK I have to chime in on the new facility. I do not see why everyone thinks it will help so much. You have the same coaches and the same RTC and the same fans etc. Sure, you can say "look we really support wrestling here", but everyone knows that already.
I do not think PSU has some over the top wrestling facility compared to tOSU or Michigan - do they? So what if the wrestling room has windows or the showers are extra big or their are bleachers in the wrestling area. Does that really change how a kid is developed? Does it change who comes to the school?
Iowa is already on the radar of most top level recruits. Getting the right ones to come and developing them will not happen because of a new building. Training them to be there best is not going to happen because of a new building.
Am I way off base here or does this make sense.
A brand new, modern training facility is a differentiator IMO. It could be the difference for some recruits. And you have to assume the resources of a new facility will better develop the athletes we already have in house.
Things are a lot different these days with kids. 40 + plus years ago I couldn't give a crap about the facilities at my school.
We weight trained in an converted space under the old Centennial gym, which looked like the boxing club in Rocky 3. Pipes overhead, leaking water and hot as hades, but no toilet. LOL
I learned a lot from college visits with my daughter 12 or so years ago, the most important things to her was the meals and the dorm rooms.
Maybe she was different but somehow I don't think so.
Yes and no. I do believe we are in a time where new facilities matter to recruits. Everything they need from training to rehab to studies is all in one location and it's brand new with all the bells and whistles. There are situations where this will make a difference to a recruit.
it's a fair question, LLGR.
in basketball and football, facilities are like an arms race...it works (in recruiting) which leads to success on the court / field.
if anything, it certainly can't hurt. it serves as a signifier for legitimacy, support, and commitment.
in basketball and football, facilities are like an arms race...it works (in recruiting) which leads to success on the court / field.
if anything, it certainly can't hurt. it serves as a signifier for legitimacy, support, and commitment.
It certainly does not hurt....I look at it through the eyes of my oldest daughter (no pic)...she is being recruited by some colleges in the midwest to play soccer....and she does her homework prior visits or id camps (coaches background, roster size, conference, were they recruit their other players from (which was a new one for me), etc)....I can tell you that when it comes to 17-18 year old athletes and you have 2 schools that for all things comparable are essentially equal in everything....it most certainly comes down to facilities and amenities.
Iowa just added women’s wrestling. The facilities were planned with that in mind. At this point, Iowa’s facilities are mid to lower tier compared to the rest of the B1G. Right now, tOSU, Minne, Rutgers, Michigan and PSU have better facilities compared to ours…that I know of.
So why isn’t Michael beard an NCAA champion? DumbassYeah…it’s obvious Cael has trouble developing championship wrestlers.
And Penn State is still winning. Sounds like a good deal to me! Laugh away Hawkfan!
