Pretty sure Spencer will help him decide his ideal weight at that dual.
I don’t think Suriano keeps it close with Lee again. I have also been thinking about this if DeSanto is our man at 133 and Fix / Suriano stay down at 125 what is DeSanto’s ceiling how high on the podium could he get?
If they stay down, I would think 2nd. If they go 133, I would say 2nd.
I don’t see anyone beating a healthy Spencer Lee.
Ummm, did you miss the finals match? Did suriano go into the hospital in the time between all his NCAA matches and the finals? Bc he sure looked damn good in those. If wants any shot at an NCAA title he'll go 133 and he knows it.
I agree with most of what you are saying, as much as I see through black and gold glasses to say Bo will not be much of a threat even I cannot agree with that. What I am hoping for is that the extra weight and strength at 197 will stop some of his funk And cradles
I've said this before, but I'll say it again, because this same narrative is being tossed around, by a few... NS apparently had 8 days in the hospital, Spencer had 8 months off the mat with no training. I'll take 8 days off the mat versus 8 months. NS also had a prior year in a College wrestling room and a College competitive season. So NS had about 7 months and 22 days more mat time than Spencer had last year... I didn't hear any excuses from Spencer when he lost, after having just come back from a serious injury. I'm not taking away anything from NS. He's a tough wrestler and extremely hard to score on, but I agree that 8 days in the hospital was a challenge, but it pales in comparison to the 8 months that Spencer had to deal with last year. I do believe there is more upside to Spencer having a full year of consistent training entering his second collegiate season versus NS getting those 8 days back.
Suriano doesn't need or want you making excuses for him. I fully expect Suriano to go 133.
I have to disagree with this. Last year the only points Nick scored in their match was an escape, Lee shut down Nick's offense. On a big stage, leading the whole match, there was little need for Lee to push for back points, but once he sees him again, he'll know what to expect and I think that leads to multiple backs.
Was it nothing during the first 4 rounds or is this the type of illness that only flares up when facing a beast like Lee?
Nobody will accuse him of ducking anyone he would be smart to move up if he wants a title. That said if he was in the hospital for 8days prior to the tournament of course it would have some affect. He looked pretty healthy to me during the in NCAA’s and remember Spencer was limited the whole year with the brace. SL will be at another level entirely this season no one wants to deal with that.
You make a good point about the Hospital stay, it obviously has some affect, to what extent, only he and his coaches probably know. I also agree that Lee needs these big gun in their to help his legacy, but I will say, and I heard FLO down play it recently, the 125 class last year was outstanding, two returning champs plus Suriano. That's a tough field. And didn't he pin a former national champ in the semi's? Not enough credit is given for that accomplishment, especially considering that most folks outside IC didn't give him a shot of beating either Nick or Nato. He was just a field guy.
Agreed here.
Compared to who if you put him next to Gilman would you say that still
Spencer Lee was the Outstanding Wrestler of that tournament and it's not debateable in my opinion. He got hosed plain and simple.
What’s funny is NS effectively said he didn’t have any excuses for the loss No one here doubts the extraordinary talent of NS. The simple reality is that Spencer is better. I’m a Hawk alum and fan, but this isn’t about looking thru “Hawkeye goggles”, it’s a simple fact. If the show were on the other foot I wouldn’t have any problem admitting.
