Local media and state representatives?With all due respect, who? Medical director? DOJ? Governor? Board of Medicine? Board of Pharmacy? They are all on board.
Local media and state representatives?With all due respect, who? Medical director? DOJ? Governor? Board of Medicine? Board of Pharmacy? They are all on board.
I wouldn't equate removing a penis and testicles to a Batman cape but to each his own...I can appreciate that. What's next though? Creating legislation banning Batman Capes?
Kid has been institutionalized between RTCs and inpatient psych for the better part of 4 years.Can’t the kid talk to an administrator or nurse at their school? I believe that would get some action.
And I already stated my position on this. I wouldn’t call it dangerous though. Definitely unfair.So was I.
"What danger do Transgendered children pose to the rest of us?"
It isn't about the thoughts of people who are confident in their decision. My feelings towards them don't mean shit. If someone is trying to figure out who and what they are starts going down the path of transitioning they have now altered thier life, as a minor.Even as a kid I knew I was male. I never had any question about that. Ever. If someone told me they felt they were genuinely the opposite sex of how they were born, I would have thought they were weird, but in no way would I have questioned myself.
Would you have thought twice about whatever sex you are if you had an openly TG student in your school?
Not comfortable? Oh, well then, that lets you off the hook then, right? Nothing can be done, so you will do nothing. As long as you sleep well tonight, that is the main thing.CYFD (NM version of CPS) would not open a case on this because they do not deem this abuse. I have thought about the legal ramifications for my own practice. There are ethical considerations for sure. Mostly my practice is protected by existing law but there are some gray areas I'm not comfortable with for sure.
Well that is a "danger" I have to account for.And I already stated my position on this. I wouldn’t call it dangerous though. Definitely unfair.
What about puberty blockers?It isn't about the thoughts of people who are confident in their decision. My feelings towards them don't mean shit. If someone is trying to figure out who and what they are starts going down the path of transitioning they have now altered thier life, as a minor.
Ha e you heard enough yet to have some answers on what dangers having minors transition possess?Not comfortable? Oh, well then, that lets you off the hook then, right? Nothing can be done, so you will do nothing. As long as you sleep well tonight, that is the main thing.
Semantics. We just have a different definition of danger.Well that is a "danger" I have to account for.
No. I have heard quite a bit of fear, but no danger.Ha e you heard enough yet to have some answers on what dangers having minors transition possess?
Would they be acceptable to you as a compromise for kids that wanted to transition?What about them?
There is a reason I keep putting it in quotes.Semantics. We just have a different definition of danger.
Well what do you suggest? Go to the authorities that think nothing is wrong with what the aunt is doing? What can I do but document objectively what the kid tells me. I've brought it to the drs and unit directors...crickets? You wanted to know what the danger trans pose to the rest of us. Well individually they pose no threat. But because of policies and guidelines mandated by the authorities that prioritize trans "rights" and care this kid gets lost in the mix. So the real danger is being done to this kid. And nobody cares because nobody wants to tackle the trans issue for fear of being labeled a transphobe.Not comfortable? Oh, well then, that lets you off the hook then, right? Nothing can be done, so you will do nothing. As long as you sleep well tonight, that is the main thing.
Seems to me like you may be looking only at what you are trying to find then. There have been plenty of real world dangers presented in this thread. Unless of course your OP could be stated as "do I need to fear physical violence from a child".No. I have heard quite a bit of fear, but no danger.
WTF? Go to the police or DHS and file a child abuse claim.Well what do you suggest? Go to the authorities that think nothing is wrong with what the aunt is doing? What can I do but document objectively what the kid tells me. I've brought it to the drs and unit directors...crickets? You wanted to know what the danger trans pose to the rest of us. Well individually they pose no threat. But because of policies and guidelines mandated by the authorities that prioritize trans "rights" and care this kid gets lost in the mix. So the real danger is being done to this kid. And nobody cares because nobody wants to tackle the trans issue for fear of being labeled a transphobe.
What is the legal definition of abuse? The kids aunt is well within the rights granted by law to do what she is doing. Until he's 14, she calls the shots.WTF? Go to the police or DHS and file a child abuse claim.
His aunt thought he was manifesting "girl type" qualities so he gets dragged before a shrink who asks him if he wants to be a girl. He says yes and here we go down the path. Now that he doesn't want to be a girl he can't stop the treatment because his legal guardian will not let him quit which by law her wishes must be met.
They present no danger to others per se. Reminds me of the old verse "I never saw a Purple Cow, I never hope to see one; but I can tell you anyhow, I'd rather see than be one."
DHS will make that decision. The kid has more rights than you might think.What is the legal definition of abuse? The kids aunt is well within the rights granted by law to do what she is doing. Until he's 14, she calls the shots.
You may be right.DHS will make that decision. The kid has more rights than you might think.
Why should I give a schitt if some kid wants to transgender? I'm at a loss to understand the danger?
I get that. But I my original response was to someone who said the existence of TG students normalized transgenderism and thus, created a pathway to converting. I was disagreeing with that.It isn't about the thoughts of people who are confident in their decision. My feelings towards them don't mean shit. If someone is trying to figure out who and what they are starts going down the path of transitioning they have now altered thier life, as a minor.
Usually if a kid refuses medications I don't do anything but if there's an order in the record that states per the child's guardian and/or provider the kid cannot refuse medications, by law I am required to administer medications by any means necessary which include non-life saving medications.That's twisted law then. Kids should be able to discontinue something non essential to their health that they initiated via their own volition. (I could see a parent overriding a kids refusal to take a life saving medicine or whatnot)
How dare you.I mean, I could hang out with a room full of trannies all week long and still feel like a man at the end of the week.
Sucks. Legal framework needs to be updated; they jammed this in there where it doesn't belong.Usually if a kid refuses medications I don't do anything but if there's an order in the record that states per the child's guardian and/or provider the kid cannot refuse medications, by law I am required to administer medications by any means necessary which include non-life saving medications.
I meant in the the most basic sense of changing one's sex. Can't be done. To the OP's question then, perpetuating a lie is the harm to society.I don’t know that transgenderism is a lie but I understand that for most it is difficult to understand.
So the kid thought he was a girl, gets on this stuff, and then decides he doesn't want to be and can't get off it?
Terrible if true, but odd. His expressing his desire to provider should be all it takes.
I totally get this. However, everyone must agree, that by law, after sex reassignment surgery their sex has changed. It’s either personally accepted by individuals or not. The law still doesn’t care.I meant in the the most basic sense of changing one's sex. Can't be done. To the OP's question then, perpetuating a lie is the harm to society.
For the person genuinely struggling with gender dysphoria I'm sure it's difficult. But let medical intervention as an adult be the last option.
OK, so what age will you be OK with it then? 14,16,18?This isn’t to protect us, it’s to protect the children.
How is that not readily apparent?
18 is commonly considered the age of adulthood in America.OK, so what age will you be OK with it then? 14,16,18?
If what you are saying is the full truth and the child is being forced to transition it is abuse. Call child protective services and make a report. They will determine the next step and do so without sharing your name with the family. Are you in a profession where you are a mandatory reporter? If you are you must report any type of suspected abuse or you could be held liable.What is the legal definition of abuse? The kids aunt is well within the rights granted by law to do what she is doing. Until he's 14, she calls the shots.
I think waiting until 18 is a perfectly reasonable idea for most surgical transitioning procedures. I do think the option of puberty blockers should be available for individuals under the age of 18 with parental permission. The blockers are reversable and eliminate the need for some surgeries later.18 is commonly considered the age of adulthood in America.
If what you are saying is the full truth and the child is being forced to transition it is abuse. Call child protective services and make a report. They will determine the next step and do so without sharing your name with the family. Are you in a profession where you are a mandatory reporter? If you are you must report any type of suspected abuse or you could be held liable.
I know he operates a homeschool and does some teaching. Public/Private school teachers would be in a bit of trouble for lack of filing a report.If what you are saying is the full truth and the child is being forced to transition it is abuse. Call child protective services and make a report. They will determine the next step and do so without sharing your name with the family. Are you in a profession where you are a mandatory reporter? If you are you must report any type of suspected abuse or you could be held liable.
It is happening, how much it is is definitely up for debate though. I believe it as Abigail Shier who presented the data on the ratio of female to male transitions vs male to female in young adults. Heavily weighted to female to male transitions and, not shockingly, in small social circles of girls.I get that. But I my original response was to someone who said the existence of TG students normalized transgenderism and thus, created a pathway to converting. I was disagreeing with that.
What about the Guardian ad Litem appointed by the court in the guardianship?With all due respect, who? Medical director? DOJ? Governor? Board of Medicine? Board of Pharmacy? They are all on board.
Aunt is legal guardian. Appointed by the court because mom is doing 20.What about the Guardian ad Litem appointed by the court in the guardianship?