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What would you do if your child came out as transgender?

No, because you've acknowledged it for what it is.... a mental illness. And then those with said mental illness are encouraged to treat their mental illness, seek therapy for their mental illness, take drugs to help their mental illness.

What a dumb attempt at a comparison.
Why then did you write “Not only will their mental illness not be questioned”? This suggests you wouldn’t take it seriously. Maybe that’s not what you meant.

Either way, i don’t believe it’s a mental illness.
 
“Real” because of social media and phones. Or will some argue it’s always been there at current rates before social media and phones?

I think it’s caused by social media and phones. Which means people are permanently altering their bodies because of the power of suggestion.

There is no test for the condition.

Preventing suicide in the short term…maybe. Long term?
There is no test for autism either, is it not real? @TarponSpringsNole , did social media and phones make you transgender?
 
No, because you've acknowledged it for what it is.... a mental illness. And then those with said mental illness are encouraged to treat their mental illness, seek therapy for their mental illness, take drugs to help their mental illness.

What a dumb attempt at a comparison.
That's what's happening. But you and the other mouth breathers continue to condemn it.
 
Seriously you think that people wake up and think I'm going to be the opposite gender because I can't wait to be the focus of hatred and bigotry?

No, they just base their gender on their feelings.

There no scientific evidence that people are born in the wrong body.
 
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No, they just base their gender on their feelings.

There no scientific evidence that people are born in the wrong body.
There is scientific evidence that people are born with additional sex chromosomes and those that have genitalia that don't match their sex chromosomes.

You are ignorant in addition to being a hypocrite. Bad combination.
 
It's impossible to know anything with 100% certainty, as Decartes said.
But you seem so certain that transgender people should just fight their "feelings" and live as the gender they were born. That maybe the choice some people with gender dysphoria make, but others would like to live their lives a different way. Why not let people make their own medical decisions and let "God" do the judging later?
 
But you seem so certain that transgender people should just fight their "feelings" and live as the gender they were born. That maybe the choice some people with gender dysphoria make, but others would like to live their lives a different way. Why not let people make their own medical decisions and let "God" do the judging later?

I completely agree they can make their own medical decisions.

I have 0 impact on anyone else.
 
I know. It's also a very small percentage of people. It doesn't apply to most trans people.
You're backpedaling and flailing wildly in an effort to act like you know anything about this condition or how to treat it. Like so many others you jump to conclusions based on your feelings rather than allowing experts and their families to make these decisions.
 
The Bible doesn't say not to judge behavior.

Read the 10 Commandments.
This isn't advocating it. Looks like you need to brush up on that too.

Matthew 7:1-3

1 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 - For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 - And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
 
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You're backpedaling and flailing wildly in an effort to act like you know anything about this condition or how to treat it. Like so many others you jump to conclusions based on your feelings rather than allowing experts and their families to make these decisions.

I think the best thing we can do is put each other on "ignore."

I'll do it now.
 
This isn't advocating it. Looks like you need to brush up on that too.

Matthew 7:1-3

1 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 - For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 - And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Jesus was talking about judging a person's soul...not their behavior.
 
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Would you allow them to try out living as the other gender? Could they dress as the other gender? Could they choose a different name?

Those things would be fine,.. But I would certainly coach them as the societal difficulties they should expect to encounter as a result.
 
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Jesus was talking about judging a person's soul...not their behavior.
That's not true. You're just making shit up now.

The exhortation not to judge is found in Jesus’ major ethical discourse (Matt. 5:1–7:29, Luke 6:17–49). The point of the discourse is to give moral instruction. In it, Jesus discusses what conduct counts as good and bad, and he expects his followers to acknowledge the difference.

Not only does he expect them to distinguish between good and evil in their own behavior, he also expects them to do so with others’ conduct, telling them, “You will know them by their fruits” (Matt. 7:20).
 
But you seem so certain that transgender people should just fight their "feelings" and live as the gender they were born. That maybe the choice some people with gender dysphoria make, but others would like to live their lives a different way. Why not let people make their own medical decisions and let "God" do the judging later?
They certainly can, but they are paying for it. Tax payers shouldn't be paying for any of their surgeries. And they should be 18 before they are allowed to do any of this.

And they shouldn't be celebrated with parades. And they shouldn't be reading to kids in our libraries. They can choose to live out their mental illness, but it should continue to be seen for what it is, a mental illness.
 
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You’re really crushing it in this thread.
Thank U GIF


Keep up the Wisconsin like mediocre work.
It's not Wisconsin Week yet. Stay triggered in this thread because the subject is personal to you, but also have patience. Wisconsin hate will come soon enough. :)
 
I honestly don't know how I would react.......I am glad I haven't had this situation though
What I don't understand is how people on this board say things like "Be kind always" "Love and support"
then turn around and call people names and write things like "You're a POS" "Hopefully you die sooner rather than later"
"You're a Moron"
Good grief!!
Shame and guilt people into being kind. It's the only way that works.............
 
-Love them
-Get them some counseling if possible
-As a parent learn as much about the issue as you can
-Be kind and remind them to call or text you as much as possible
-Probably be realistic and tell them life is going to be rough until they hit adulthood
-Be a decent human

I don't think it's really that hard.
 
We just got a scary message from our son’s college that they found a student dead in my son’s dorm. My son didn’t know them but has friends who did. It sounds like the deceased recently came out as trans and their family completely disowned them. Everyone who knew the deceased says they were taking it extremely hard and they are assuming it was a suicide.

My son is trans, so this hits really close to home and I got very emotional when I heard this. I couldn’t imagine not supporting my child. I also can’t imagine the guilt and pain those parents are experiencing now.

The trans hate in this country needs to stop.

I realize this is a sensitive subject and I’ll probably get lots of hate from the usual suspects, but I have most of those hateful bigots on ignore anyway.
Love them and support them, it's what a parent does.

Lemme guess, the family whose son just killed himself are just good God-fearing Christians and they let everyone know that any opportunity that they can.
 
I 100% agree with this.

Are some people born gay? I do believe so.

Are some people gay but not born gay? I do believe so.

I've already given the example of a girl that wanted to be a boy. Took meds and now changed her mind. Mad at family for allowing her to do what she did.

I also know a lady very well, she's the most liberal person I've ever met in my life. She's a man hating, feminist, embarrassed to be white type of person. Oh, and of course atheist. She is left of left.

I've known her for roughly five years.

She has two daughters.

One of the daughters in those five years has always been a lesbian.
The other daughter thought she wanted to be a lesbian as well. Even the lady that I know questioned if she wanted to be a lesbian because her sister was. Now apparently she has changed her name to a more gender neutral name and think she's trans.

Fast forward to this year, the older daughter is in college and out of state. All she talks about now is a guy she met.

This lady has raised her two daughters to be CONFUSED.
So basically, a screwed up person raised screwed up kids. Damn, didn’t see that one coming.
 
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