Will Wisconsin be good next year?

[OnceAhawk]

They lose a lot and if Dekker leaves for the NBA....

Status of the 9 who played vs Arizona:

Seniors, out of eligibility[/B]

Frank Kaminsky
Josh Gasser
Duje Dukan
Traevon Jackson


Likely to leave for NBA?[/B]

Sam Dekker, SR to be


JR next year[/B]

Nigel Hayes
Bronson Koenig
Zak Showalter
Vitto Brown

 

[OldTownPepe]

Bo knows. All I know is they're pretty damn good this year.

 

[ichawk24]

Yes, they'll be good.

 

[dawgs_04]

Good, not great though
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[yiana]

Yes.
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[packerHawk76]

I think Wisconsin will be good no matter who plays with Bo as the coach

 

[CanadaHawk]

Wisconsin has no where to go but down in the league. 2015-16 is the year they have to get worse if for no other reason than they can't finish any better than the #1 in the B1G that they achieved this year. Kaminsky and Dekker are arguably Bo's best players in his tenure as a coach. If Dekker leaves, I see their ceiling as #4 in 2015-16, and that's because of a lot of experience in the post-season with key players Hayes and Koenig returning. Most likely, if Dekker leaves, they finish for the first time in a long time, out of the top 5. But you still wouldn't want to play them.

 

[hansenhawk]

They are now a program that doesn't rebuilt, they simply reload.

Now, will they be a final four team next year? Who knows, probably not.

They will still be #1 or 2 in the B1G though, and be one of the best team entering next years tournament.

Them and MSU.

Rinse and repeat for a long time unfortunately.

 

[DanL53]

Way to early to say. Let's see who goes pro and how recruiting ends up across the league. Right now I'd say Maryland and Michigan State are hands down #1 and #2. Does Ohio State's best (so far) class of 2015 recruiting turn out to be more that all show? If so, knock Wisconsin down another notch.

Why should Purdue not be better?

Too soon, but chances are Wisconsin will be fighting for third, at best.

 

[hansenhawk]

The only way Wisconsin finishes 3rd or lower next year is if Dekker goes to the NBA.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by hansenhawk:
The only way Wisconsin finishes 3rd or lower next year is if Dekker goes to the NBA.


Try looking at who Michigan State and Maryland have. Dekker had a great GAME today, and it still took a great game from Kaminsky to beat Arizona.

 

[mangypolecat]

Until they prove otherwise, Wisky is good every year. Bo Ryan can flat out coach 'em up.

 

[hawkeyesports92]

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by hansenhawk:
The only way Wisconsin finishes 3rd or lower next year is if Dekker goes to the NBA.


Try looking at who Michigan State and Maryland have. Dekker had a great GAME today, and it still took a great game from Kaminsky to beat Arizona.

Ya the officials had nothing to do with the game being close. Could you imagine how many fouls Woody would have been called for if he hedged on the top of the key like Zona. Or if he grabbed and shoved underneath. I put the over under on 20 fouls in one game if he couldn't foul out. Wisconsin will be good next year because they have the best coach in the country. I don't like what he did with JU but he is one of the best damn coaches in the history of the game.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by hawkeyesports92:

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by hansenhawk:
The only way Wisconsin finishes 3rd or lower next year is if Dekker goes to the NBA.




Try looking at who Michigan State and Maryland have. Dekker had a great GAME today, and it still took a great game from Kaminsky to beat Arizona.

Ya the officials had nothing to do with the game being close. Could you imagine how many fouls Woody would have been called for if he hedged on the top of the key like Zona. Or if he grabbed and shoved underneath. I put the over under on 20 fouls in one game if he couldn't foul out. Wisconsin will be good next year because they have the best coach in the country. I don't like what he did with JU but he is one of the best damn coaches in the history of the game.


Woody would have had two fouls in warm ups. And the game would start with the other team having the ball because of the three second call on the jump ball. And yeah, they don't have to explain it.

 

[newman21W]

3 redshirts for the Badgers this year. Ethan Happ and Jordan Hill will help next year. Bo has done well with teams that don't have two players as good as Koenig and Hayes. Can't imagine that Dekker comes back.

 

[LuteHawk]

I do not think Dekker goes to the NBA until after
his Senior year. He is a Wisconsin guy and loves
the college atmosphere. He has plenty of time to
make the big bucks.

 

[sanjosebill]

Will Bo be at Wisconsin?

Yeah they'll be good

 

[hawkeyesports92]

Originally posted by DanL53:

Originally posted by hawkeyesports92:
ches in the history of the game.


Woody would have had two fouls in warm ups. And the game would start with the other team having the ball because of the three second call on the jump ball. And yeah, they don't have to explain it.

Lol I just had to laugh every time zonas center would hedge at the top of the key and almost knock Wisconsins guard on his ass and not once was called for a foul. They would have reviewed Woody and given him a flagrant for half as much. The discrepancy is what was a foul for the two teams made me think Iowa was playing.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Yes. How good? Who knows, but as long as Bo is there, they'll be good.
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[Kinnick 4 Prez]

Bo is a great coach so he will have competitive teams even when the talent level is down. I think it was 3-4 years ago. I thought he lost some talented players so I thought this was the year they finish in the bottom half of B1G and one and done. Nope. Makes Sweet 16 with over achieving players and great coaching.
I will never be surprised by Wiscy again. Consistently good to great every year.
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[OnceAhawk]

Originally posted by DanL53:

Way to early to say. Let's see who goes pro and how recruiting ends up across the league. Right now I'd say Maryland and Michigan State are hands down #1 and #2. Does Ohio State's best (so far) class of 2015 recruiting turn out to be more that all show? If so, knock Wisconsin down another notch.

Why should Purdue not be better?

Too soon, but chances are Wisconsin will be fighting for third, at best.

Mich State loses a a couple of key players in Brandon Dawson and Travis Trice

 

[Hawks2405]

Yes they will be good. They might be great if Decker and Hayes come back. We tried to get Ethan Happ and he will be the prototypical Wosconsin player which is very good. They will be tough no matter what.

 

[badger-007]

Good??? Competitive..yes.

 

[IAFootball#1]

Bo to Texas? Alabama?

 

[OnceAhawk]

Originally posted by Hawks2405:
Yes they will be good. They might be great if Decker and Hayes come back. We tried to get Ethan Happ and he will be the prototypical Wosconsin player which is very good. They will be tough no matter what.

thanks for bringing up the red shirted guys; I am sure they will be good next year but damn, these last 2 years have been quite a run

Hayes should be back; Dekker is a coin flip, imo.....I think he is an NBA 1st rounder

 

[luvmyhawks]

Originally posted by Kinnick 4 Prez:
Bo is a great coach so he will have competitive teams even when the talent level is down. I think it was 3-4 years ago. I thought he lost some talented players so I thought this was the year they finish in the bottom half of B1G and one and done. Nope. Makes Sweet 16 with over achieving players and great coaching.
I will never be surprised by Wiscy again. Consistently good to great every year.

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Why in the world would you think they would have finished in the bottom half this year???? Even my mom knew they would win the B1G this year. They were the clear favorite this year and honestly, anything less than sweet 16 this season would have been a major disappointment for Wisconsin.

 

[DanL53]

Originally posted by OnceAhawk:

Originally posted by DanL53:

Way to early to say. Let's see who goes pro and how recruiting ends up across the league. Right now I'd say Maryland and Michigan State are hands down #1 and #2. Does Ohio State's best (so far) class of 2015 recruiting turn out to be more that all show? If so, knock Wisconsin down another notch.

Why should Purdue not be better?

Too soon, but chances are Wisconsin will be fighting for third, at best.

Mich State loses a a couple of key players in Brandon Dawson and Travis Trice


True. As I said, let's see who goes pro and how recruiting ends up across the league. Right now I'd say Maryland and Michigan State.....etc.

Maryland is also losing some key players. But a very preliminary quick glance at what teams are losing, keeping, and getting, I like Maryland and Michigan State.

The one thing I know for certain is that anyone who is certain Wisconsin IS a top two team is nuts. It is way too early to say.

 

[StormHawk42]

Until Bo gives me a reason to think otherwise, I always assume they'll be top 5 in the conference.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Originally posted by OnceAhawk:

Originally posted by Hawks2405:
Yes they will be good. They might be great if Decker and Hayes come back. We tried to get Ethan Happ and he will be the prototypical Wosconsin player which is very good. They will be tough no matter what.

thanks for bringing up the red shirted guys; I am sure they will be good next year but damn, these last 2 years have been quite a run

Hayes should be back; Dekker is a coin flip, imo.....I think he is an NBA 1st rounder

Some scouts have Hayes as high as Dekker. If they win it all, I could see both leaving. Dekker will not be able to duplicate his performance again. he is simply on fire these last 3 games and will be rising on the draft board.

Hayes also has been playing well, but I agree with you that Hayes will probably be back.

Lets face it, Bo will adapt to his teams strengths next year and they will play their style of ball. I think they will still be top 4 in the league, unless some of the new players don't adapt as fast to the college game. But they will return their PG, Hayes, and some players off the bench. Wisky will be solid next year

 

[Rifler]

Decker leaves this year. Don't see any way he can improve his stock next year, but there are a lot of ways he can lose value playing another year with what will undoubtedly be a much weaker Badger team......

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Originally posted by Rifler:
Decker leaves this year. Don't see any way he can improve his stock next year, but there are a lot of ways he can lose value playing another year with what will undoubtedly be a much weaker Badger team......

That and also sometimes you have to worry about Injury. Who was the kid at Cinci who came back and blew out his knee? Also look at Jackson for Wisky this year. I think Dekker needs to go this year, no way you can improve on this performance.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Wisconsin will not be as good as this year, and a lot will depend on whether Dekker or even Hayes leave early. If neither leave, I think they compete for the top of the B1G and are a top 15 team. If only Dekker leaves, they will be in the top half of the league, but it is too early to know more. If both Dekker and Hayes leave, Bo will need to work a miracle for Wisky to finish in the top half of the league. I will be surprised if Dekker stays. Not sure about Hayes.

 

[Drmac22]

They will be down next year. Losing Frank Kaminsky is huge for them. they have good players coming back but they showed that even Rutgers can beat them with out Kaminsky. If Dekker leaves they will be in the top 5 in the B10 but not dominating. I think MSU will be top next year. lots of young teams out there.

 

[DodgerHawki]

It's all in how you define good. If by good you mean lose only 2 games in the conference season, a No. 1 seed and Final Four, then likely not. If by good you mean top half of the league, solidly in the NCAA tournament with good shot at winning 1-2 games in the tourney, then yes.

Koenig has improved since taking over for Jackson. Hayes is Hayes. If Dekker comes back, they are likely among the favorites to content for the league. If Dekker leaves, then you could make the case others should be favorites. But have seen Ryan do a lot with similar talent to what he has coming back next year. At some point, the remarkable string of finishing in the Top 4 of the league will come to an end, but still a great run.

 

[hawkguy77]

Originally posted by IAFootball#1:
Bo to Texas? Alabama?

I think Bo is 67 years old. I don't think he would leave Wisconsin for a job in the south since he has been in the state of Wisconsin most of his life.

 

[BeepBeepInMyJeep]

I think Dekker comes back and they are top 2 or 3 in the Big Ten again. They will have to catch some breaks like MSU did in the bracket to get back to a Final Four, but to even pretend there's any hope they will be a bubble/NIT team is a fools errand.

 

[nagemj02]

Originally posted by DanL53:

Way to early to say. Let's see who goes pro and how recruiting ends up across the league. Right now I'd say Maryland and Michigan State are hands down #1 and #2. Does Ohio State's best (so far) class of 2015 recruiting turn out to be more that all show? If so, knock Wisconsin down another notch.

Why should Purdue not be better?

Too soon, but chances are Wisconsin will be fighting for third, at best.

The main concern for Purdue will be PG play. Getting Colorado State grad transfer Jon Octeus was a major key to the team's improvement in '14-'15. However, Bryson Scott barely played from conference play onward (i.e. similar to Trey Dickerson for you guys). He is the one that has the speed and athleticism needed for a PG at this level, but his decision-making and jump-shooting are constant concerns. P.J. Thompson is a smart player, but short and athletically limited for a high-major PG. The coaching staff offered and got an in-state guy in Grant Weatherford, but I'm not sure that he's really a B1G caliber guard.

I think A.J. Hammons will return because I don't see him being projected as a 1st round pick.


Maryland might take a step back if PG Melo Trimble leaves early for the NBA. They are already going to lose Dez Wells, Richaud Pack, Evan Smotrycz, and Jonathan Graham.

 

[Suterman]

Dekker will not be back. Regardless, Bucky will finish in the Top 4 of the conference again next year.

 

[johnnashhawk]

Oh how I would love to take this bet. Regrettably, I'm not sure Dekker pulls the string on leaving early, and the recruiting period is still open for Beau to parlay the exposure into a 5* or two yet.

That's the one thing I find really hard to understand. Are bragging rights for any conference that has adopted a philosophy of changing schools faster than I change underwear, worth the trade off that the only conf members that see any benefit are the schools that are experiencing the success? Maybe some of you that are liplocked to Beau's right buttock could explain it to me?

As far as their opponent, yeah, at this point how could anyone that loves the game pull for charismatic Cal ...

 

[blockm2]

top of the conference next season will likely be decided by the early entry decisions of Sam Dekker, Melo Trimble, and Caris LeVert. Of the 3, Dekker is probably by far the most likely to head to the NBA.