The season's barely started. I'm sure something dumber will come along.
Charles Jones
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Well the season just started...
Kind of like Nebraska saying they played the worst game they've played all year.... In week ONE. 🤣
It's Gus Johnson. His excitement is over the top at times, but it's great when he's calling a BIG play for "your" team.
Kind of like Nebraska saying they played the worst game they've played all year.... In week ONE. 🤣
It's Gus Johnson. His excitement is over the top at times, but it's great when he's calling a BIG play for "your" team.
Their play-calling at the end certainly didn't help though. Under 6 minutes and they only killed ~1 min of clock with TWO drives. Embarrassing by Brohm.
Let me add a couple things… I don’t constantly get on a message board and piss & moan & trash my favorite team… So I concur we most assuredly would not get along, because that’s not OK with me!
but you clearly enjoy it… I will never let myself be around somebody as negative and nasty as you are!
Anything else brother?!
I've never hated on C.J., or any other college-aged kid for that matter. His departure may have been ill-timed, probably because he gave it as long as he could before he just couldn't take it anymore. He is on Purdue now as a result of an epic fail of Iowa's offensive coaching staff, in terms of offensive philosophy, poor utilization of talent, and lack of producing a competent B1G QB.
yeah, not sure I would go as far to say that PSU's last drive was one of college football's greatest ever....
Because football is not binary, it's the most complex team sport in existence.
Looking for a place to discuss his first game for Purdue and couldn't find any discussions.
Anyone else watch the game?
Anyone else watch the game?
Again man, that’s your opinion from a fan perspective. Have any players or coaches, who bled and sweat with him and interacted with him everyday on the record stating he was a selfish guy or not a team player? Prior to Charlie leaving, we had already lost Quavon Matthews, Hutson, and Tracy. I find it hard to believe we had 0 roster spots or weren’t even a little concerned about the depth of WR; especially when you factor in that Brecht is a 2 sport athlete with a legit shot of going pro in baseball.
To be honest, that's a little exaggerated. They've had a few years where their D has shown some promise.
A caveat to their play is that it's not terribly balanced ... so that costs them games. Furthermore, if the O is throwing a bunch of incompletions (like we saw against PSU) ... then drives can stall fast too. That can potentially put their D in some tough spots.
Success aside, you do not tailor your offense to keep players happy, you tailor it to win games.
I guess, but when he played for the Hawks we beat penn state.
So Jones is on pace for 140+ receptions and 12 TDs. Purdue as a team is on pace to finish 0-12.
None of these are likely to happen.
Bold prediction:
Iowa>Purdue. Team play matters.
None of these are likely to happen.
Bold prediction:
Iowa>Purdue. Team play matters.
Actions speak louder than words. And there haven't been many words about Charlie from Iowa players since he left.
If it were totally a fan perspective, don't you think I'd give Tracy the same treatment? I don't.
Matthews, Hutson, and Tracy were completely different situations, considering the first two were on the outside of that list I posted looking in, and the Iowa staff had already asked Tracy to switch to RB. They wouldn't have done that had they not been satisfied with the WR depth.
It keeps getting brought up, but Brecht has had plenty of chances to leave for baseball, and he hasn't done it yet. If he were, it would have happened by now. And by the MLB's rules he won't be draft eligible until 2024 anyways.
We're not gonna agree on this, and that's fine.
It's because you don't understand different strategies in football dude. Prohm tries to control the clock on offense and just hold on on defense.... Iowa tries to control the clock on both sides....good luck throwing the ball 60 times a game in the bigten consistently....
I am not suggesting that Iowa go with a Purdue-like pass-first offense. However, the #1 WR in Iowa's current offense is not a bad gig, and if he were there where he belonged he probably wouldn't have left.
Oh, and please let me know when Iowa "tailors their offense to win games," because that would be something, unless you think that means the same as "play scared to death to make a mistake" or "play not to lose," which is very much what they are.
Being frustrated that we’re not able to adapt our offense to be more productive does not equate to being pissed at our coaching staff. I never trashed our team either…I’m thrilled that our coaches do more with less than almost any other program, but if you look at Jones performance tonight and aren’t frustrated that we couldn’t find ways to adapt our playcalling to get him the ball more idk what to say. Especially given that the fact that most of you trashing Jones believe our other WRs are far superior. If that’s the case why can’t we do anything remotely close to what Purdue did with our “4th string leftovers” in the passing game? Also, given Iowa’s track record of putting guys in the NFL, I think a lot of fans just wish that would translate to even more success. Sure that could be greedy, but I just saw a poll that ranks us having the 10th for most NFL talent this year, but we’re not ranked in most preseason top 25 polls, something doesn’t chive. Also, starting your response with stating I’m more relaxed and then contradicting yourself and stating that you’re actually more relaxed is super unclear. Anyway, it’s been fun. At the end of the day we don’t have to agree, we’re all hawk fans.
Still, all things considered, I would rather keep Jones have have Brian transfer to Purdue.
lol, they brought ol Urban back ?
Gus Johnson has become the Dick Vitale of college football. I cringe listening to him.
How does Urban Meyer continue to be employed?
I'd be happy to answer the question if I knew what it was.
It sounds like you're trying another "gotcha" because CJ's team lost and Iowa has won more games than Purdue over the past several years or something, but that's never been my point. Purdue lost because of poor defense and coaching. CJ did a heck of a lot more to help his team win tonight than he ever would have had he stayed in Iowa City, which is a shame. And at this moment no one knows which team will have more success overall this year.
We've seen how Iowa offenses operate with a short slot WR as the #1 option. See 2016, 2017, and 2021 for examples.
I'd say it's working well enough considering we're 26-9 the last three seasons.
You’re not getting my point at all that people claiming Purdue losing this game backs their claims that losing Charlie doesn’t hurt us
yeah, not sure I would go as far to say that PSU's last drive was one of college football's greatest ever....
Agreed. Must have had a few extra Red Bulls in preparation for his season opener.
I just want to know why it takes two years or more to learn Iowa’s offense, yet other teams change OC’s every year and don’t have a problem moving the ball, scoring points, and are better than 120 other teams statistically.
An absence of words does not equate to your opinion being fact.
Even though the other WRs circumstances for leaving were different, it doesn’t change the fact that we had open WR positions to fill which is what I was eluding to.
You can’t pretend to know what a college kid is going to do, they don’t even know half the time. Nothing would surprise me regarding Brecht. Maybe he never goes, maybe he wants to improve his draft stock for the MLB, only time will tell. Point being he was not totally invested in football throughout the year like the other WRs as I’m sure baseball practice and games unequivocally takes away time to focus and prepare for football season.
Anyway, I appreciate the banter. You seem to have well thought out opinions even if we don’t agree and that’s cool. At the end of the day we’re both hawks fans and are hoping for a W this Saturday.
Anyone claiming that losing Charlie doesn't hurt us is an idiot.
I think most are just enjoying watching Iowa's hated rival lose in heartbreaking fashion after taking 2 WRs from us just a few months before season.
That amazing offense put up 24 points
You seriously think that if Iowa had CJ as the #1 WR target that our offense would be worse that it will be the way it is now without him?
And yes, of course, I give PP and the defensive coaches all the credit in the world for leading Iowa to a 26-9 record the last 3 seasons despite having an offense that plays scared and rarely has big-time skill position players. We fans owe them so much.
Anybody else just happy that we saw a great game tonight and that football is back in swing? No?
What I’ll add is that yeah, Purdue makes great use of their receivers. For all that, O’Connell passed at about a 50% clip and threw for only 1 TD despite the yardage. The offense put up 24 points with 1 defensive TD and a major choke job in the 4th. Not to mention gawful tackling and mediocre defense despite a hampered PSU QB
When Iowa’s offensive line play is better than it was last year, we can be effective offensively too with a better ground game and better utilization of tight ends plus better defense and special teams, despite that lack of production from the QB/receiver position
Let’s all get along and get excited for this game Saturday!
What I’ll add is that yeah, Purdue makes great use of their receivers. For all that, O’Connell passed at about a 50% clip and threw for only 1 TD despite the yardage. The offense put up 24 points with 1 defensive TD and a major choke job in the 4th. Not to mention gawful tackling and mediocre defense despite a hampered PSU QB
When Iowa’s offensive line play is better than it was last year, we can be effective offensively too with a better ground game and better utilization of tight ends plus better defense and special teams, despite that lack of production from the QB/receiver position
Let’s all get along and get excited for this game Saturday!
Nothing to add, just didn’t want to be the only one not starting a thread on him.
I know that he wouldn't be the #1 WR in our system because he doesn't fit what we ask of that position.
Although if you really believe the offense has had zero to do with that record, you probably don't understand that to begin with.
Like Charlie always says: "Purdue: can't win against them, can't with them"
