Hurricane season has arrived....
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Sorry…thought you were napping until they ran out of names.
Jim Cantore is the grim reaper....never good when he shows up.
This will shock nobody by now, but already Cat 3, ahead of schedule. For those in thread trying to bury head in sands about climate change, this is exactly the problem we now face. This never use to happen (storms going from depressions to major hurricanes in 48 hours or less) but it is the new norm now. Such genesis typically would be much rarer and take 5-7 days (meaning the Michaels and Helene’s and Milton’s mere depressions or barely tropical storms as they entered / formed in the gulf would not be major by landfall within 3-4 days of being a depression)
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What a bunch of crap. We had no way to tell how fast storms developed until fairly recently.
Glad we decided to get the hell out yesterday. This is unreal.
You're getting hit with a double whammy....hopefully it isn't as bad as predicted.
Why can't two things be true at the same time? Yes, there were storms in the 1500s, and, yes, they are growing more powerful due to more heat and more moisture in the air due to human behavior? I'm just trying to get a handle on your beliefs? Is it purely to defend the GOP? Lots of Republicans understand the science and say "climate change", out loud. It's okay.
When you post stuff like this it is because you are ignorant, or playing ignorant? Detailed weather records go back hundreds of years. The colonial powers recorded weather data multiple times per day at all of their embassies, colonial outposts, and ships at sea, then diligently reported them back to London, Paris, Lisbon, and Madrid where they were archived and is being used today. From colonial times on there have been detailed records taken about the weather all over what became the US. All of that data is being fed into computers and used today.
How many "ships at sea" were covering the entire Atlantic 400 years ago?
And how many survived the really big ones so their data could be delivered to someone and entered into the historical record?
The 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron has been flying through storms for eighty years, dolt. They monitor them nearly continuously now and have for over forty years. There's data on hundreds of storms. Stick to something you know something about.
80 years is less than the blink of an eye in terms of the climate, dummy.
LOL...We. Have. Real. Time. Data. On. HUNDREDS. Of. Storms.
From. Inside.
Seriously, you're a f'n moran.
And what the hell do you care anyway? We're nowhere near the Greek letters yet...right? You were just gonna sleep until then.
And people are using today's data to claim that storms are bigger, more powerful, develop faster, etc. by comparing it to vastly inferior and incomplete data from the past. That doesn't sound like proof of anything to me.
The willful ignorance and stupidity of people like you are why this country and “the great experiment” are hanging by a thread, as literally dozens of other nations are pulling ahead of us. Sadly, you have 10s of millions of brethren too across the US. Our country may be doomed.
Of course it doesn’t. Because you’re an idiot who has no idea what he’s talking about. The development of storms has been tracked by direct measurement from INSIDE THE STORM for 80 years. Detailed wind speed and pressure readings from the eyes of hundreds of storms are in the records. But “that doesn’t sound like proof of anything to” you. Because YOU’RE the expert on hurricanes who was whining about not having drinking water on hand. Moran.
For anyone that might be interested:
BRITISH LOGBOOKS IN UK ARCHIVES17th–19th CENTURIESA survey of the range, selection and suitability of British logbooks and related documents for climatic research Clive Wilkinson Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ United Kingdom E-mail c.w.wilkinson@uea.ac.uk
https://icoads.noaa.gov/reclaim/pdf/Pre-20thC_British_logbooks_report_version_2009_2.pdf
An excerpt from page 6:
ADM 51 (Captains’ Logbooks)The series of captains‟ logbooks run from 1669 to 1853. They comprise 4,563volumes or pieces, each containing between 4 and 10 individual logbooks. There are approximately 25,000 logbooks in total.
Table 1 gives an approximate number of individual logbooks by decade.Decade Logbooks Decade Logbooks1669-1679 130 1770-1779 10011680-1689 227 1780-1789 13111690-1699 956 1790-1799 33901700-1709 1105 1800-1809 73291710-1719 727 1810-1819 22171720-1729 475 1820-1829 7611730-1739 529 1830-1839 8951740-1749 1146 1840-1849 6611750-1759 837 1850-1853 551760-1769 986 Total 24738Table 1. ADM 51-Decadal Range (figures slightly inflated due to year range or decadal overlap in some volumes)
BRITISH LOGBOOKS IN UK ARCHIVES17th–19th CENTURIESA survey of the range, selection and suitability of British logbooks and related documents for climatic research Clive Wilkinson Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ United Kingdom E-mail c.w.wilkinson@uea.ac.uk
https://icoads.noaa.gov/reclaim/pdf/Pre-20thC_British_logbooks_report_version_2009_2.pdf
An excerpt from page 6:
ADM 51 (Captains’ Logbooks)The series of captains‟ logbooks run from 1669 to 1853. They comprise 4,563volumes or pieces, each containing between 4 and 10 individual logbooks. There are approximately 25,000 logbooks in total.
Table 1 gives an approximate number of individual logbooks by decade.Decade Logbooks Decade Logbooks1669-1679 130 1770-1779 10011680-1689 227 1780-1789 13111690-1699 956 1790-1799 33901700-1709 1105 1800-1809 73291710-1719 727 1810-1819 22171720-1729 475 1820-1829 7611730-1739 529 1830-1839 8951740-1749 1146 1840-1849 6611750-1759 837 1850-1853 551760-1769 986 Total 24738Table 1. ADM 51-Decadal Range (figures slightly inflated due to year range or decadal overlap in some volumes)
“ Uncle Milty “ was hung like a horse, so they say…
We're talking about how fast storms developed and how big they got BEFORE the industrial age and all the climate changing emissions, doofus. We don't have the same sort of data on those storms.
I'm not talking about storms from hundreds of years ago, idiot. I'm talking about data collected for 80 years on hundreds of storms that don't indicate anything like what we're seeing now. Are you going to claim that THAT data isn't somehow relevant to your little fantasy? Are you going to claim some kind of anomaly over the past 80 years that somehow prevented what we're seeing now and a storm going from tropical depression to 150mph Cat 4 in two f'n days was normal in the past?
You seriously need to just stop. You look dumber and dumberer with every single post. How you can live in FL and not understand storm development would be a mystery had I not seen so many of your idiotic posts over the years.
And you are emblematic of another corner of the room. Someone with a different opinion who has decided that the Earth has no ability to have different weather patterns or go through different conditions that create and eliminate various life forms.
Maybe let us all know what you’re doing to save the Earth. Have you given up the family vehicles?
Turned off your AC? Never buy a bottled water?
Grow your own food without any pesticides?
Just a basic start…I’m curious.
You really don't believe climate change is real??
These hurricanes are proving it. The situation is sad because Florida is MAGA country and they deny climate change which is crushing your state.
And your eloquent and learned remarks leads me to wonder who PHUCKING DIED AND MADE YOU THE EXPERT???
11 am NHC
From the 11 AM discussion: "The latest model fields are a bit left of the previous runs, and the official NHC track forecast is shifted to the north. This forecast is close to a consensus of the latest GFS, ECMWF and regional hurricane models. Note that this track is closer to the model fields rather than the model trackers which appear to be too far south."
From the 11 AM discussion: "The latest model fields are a bit left of the previous runs, and the official NHC track forecast is shifted to the north. This forecast is close to a consensus of the latest GFS, ECMWF and regional hurricane models. Note that this track is closer to the model fields rather than the model trackers which appear to be too far south."
The 1940s through the 1960s were very active. And then... not so active until the 2020s. These things come in cycles lasting decades. But I guess you didn't know about that?
